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Recent events have increased awareness of a small corner of the virtual and real world known as “the manosphere.” But what is the manosphere? And what is it all about?
Loosely, as I understand it, the manosphere is a collection of blogs and websites created by men for men where they can discuss issues men face. The topics and content of these websites varies widely, and some are even in direct opposition to each others espoused philosophy or understanding on a certain issue (the most controversial as far as the main stream media likely would be where the manosphere intersects with the female world, and opinions about dating, love, sex, and relationships are the topic.)
While the manosphere is predominately male, that does not mean it is made up of men all in complete agreement with each other or in agreement of any one certain point of view.
Some examples of sub groups within the manosphere include (but are not limited to):
- Married men talking to other married men about marital issues
- Single men talking to other single men about issues surrounding dating, relating, and marriage
- Men talking to other men interested in a lifestyle that does not involve marriage, and in some cases does not involve women romantically at all
- Single dads talking to other single dads about parenting and legal issues
- Men of all relationship status talking to each other about issues men face in general
- Men interested in discussion of men’s legal rights such as paternal rights, divorce law, sexual harassment laws, and the like
- Men talking to other men about “guy stuff” like sports, hunting, fishing, motorcycles, fitness, career, self-improvement, and the like
- Blogs written by women in reaction to or in support of men’s issues and how they impact women and relationships (some in the manosphere would consider these websites outside of the manosphere, not a part of it, as they are not written by men for men.)
And more…
Are men in the manosphere occasionally angry or bitter? Yes. Do some of these men who are angry and bitter have just cause to be angry and bitter? Yes. Are all men in the manosphere angry and bitter? No.
Is everything written in the manosphere fact? No. Are facts discussed and debated? Yes. Is everything said in the manosphere truth? No. Is the truth discussed and debated? Yes. Do some men in the menosphere hold negative views of women or more specifically feminism? Yes. Do all men in the manosphere have a negative view of women? No. Do men in the manosphere sometimes say shocking things or express views other than the social norm? Yes. Do all men in the manosphere say shocking things or express views other than the social norm? No.
The manosphere is not a hate group, or a terrorist group, or even a cohesive single organization, as it has been portrayed by some in the main stream media.
Put another way, if men getting together and discussing topics important to men seems threatening, one should question whether women getting together to talk to other women about issues important to women is threatening? If they cannot say yes to the latter, they cannot in good consciousness say yes to the former.
In short, the manosphere is men talking to other men about being a man, on the Internet or in person at workshops and conferences. It is a loosely formed male community united around their common identity of being male. It is nothing more, nothing less.
The manosphere is actually really interesting.
Let those who have ears hear
Well done baby girl
Redpillgirlnotes,
You’re kind of a rare bear. You’re guy friendly all the way to the bone.
I mean every word of it too, fuzzie! Thanks 🙂
One of the ironies of the ‘sphere, which is already being attacked for being a den of misogynist haters (therefore both irrational and dangerous, and therefore vaguely criminal), is its capacity to educate women. Women who say they would wish to understand men better nonetheless revile the ‘sphere; clearly they would wish to understand men better who already understand what motivates most women.
So. Since it is explicitly skeptical about the current rules and laws defining male-female interaction, and because it is a state-space in which it’s useful to know how to write and think, the number of educated women who can tolerate having their every assumption about post-feminist America challenged approaches zero. Those women who do participate find themselves, typically, disproportionately popular. This makes the ‘sphere charmingly romantic, in a way, as we see otherwise strident males fall all over themselves in helping prove that NAWALT.
@ bv if it were just s den of misogyny I would have moved on long ago. I think the fact that I have been so accepted and let’s face it, kindly tolerated despite crashing the “men only” event is pretty good proof that you aren’t all a bunch of criminal deviant women haters. I don’t always get what’s being said, but I have learned loads and loads by participating. I’d trust the j4g crew to have my back over a gaggle of gals any day! (women can be notorious backstabbers, as you unfortunately well know firsthand.) Even some of the more pua sites, yes they may use crude language and not have the highest opinion of these women who they are seeing their worst nature over and over, kind of like a Las Vegas beat cop, I can see how they would get jaded. IMO If a gal wants to be a feminist that’s totally her choice, I support that, but for me, after a lifetime of examining it and trying to live according to that only to have that turn out to be an epic failure, well I am now a skeptic in a similar way as the most faithful beta male might feel to know he’s done it all “right” and it didn’t work and realizing he was mislead all along…
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Here’s a little irony for you. Many perceive the Manosphere as a means for men to exchange trade secrets for exploiting women. (I’m about to make a case for the Elephant In The Room.)
For the most part, while manipulation techniques may be evolved and perfected, it’s not for purposes of exploitation. Think of it like asymmetric information in a barter or exchange. The Manosphere believes mostly that it is societal conditioning and institutions that are the cause for exploiting women and for exploiting men. On a macro scale they want reform. and on a micro scale they want fairness. In the outlying sites they want to vent, and frankly many of these emotions are ugly.
And the following statement may truly shock some of you out of your panties. At the highest level of artistry, a seducer sees himself as performing for women an act of compassion. Woman can be hornier than men, earthier than men, feel arousal and release more strongly than men, and have a much tighter coupling between their senses and their emotions…than men. When a man sucks in bed, women get to enjoy none of that. If a man doesn’t know how to approach and initiate an erotic connection, the woman is left hungry.
Certainly the Manosphere indulges high art, low art, and no art in male/female relations, apart from its social justice angle. And definitely the Manosphere conducts loud polemics against cherished institutions. Where you see a lot of the public outcry against the Manosphere is from those failed social institutions that will not evolve or go quietly into the grave. These are institutions that have failed women and failed men, to the point we all suffer together. This blog is an example of how we all want to see the suffering end.