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It’s been said that a woman without a man is like a fish without a bicycle. Fish, you see, don’t need bicycles. Or so the saying implies. But are men really disposable?
As a woman born into the post feminist world, then raised from the age of two by a widowed single mom, I was fairly indoctrinated with this fish not needing bicycles business. I was not raised to be a wife and mother. In fact I can’t remember by mom ever talking to me about becoming either. But I do remember her constantly saying, “When you go to college…” and “When you have your career…”
It wasn’t that my mom was opposed to marriage or kids necessarily, but I believe she said these things to me in reaction to her own experience of losing her childhood sweetheart at the age of 27 and not having any marketable skills or education to fall back on. So she went back to school and she did well by my brother and me, worked hard, provided for and protected us. She was a good mom and I believe she was trying to do her best, raising me to be independent so that if I ever had to stand on my own two feet, I could.
My mom didn’t remarry or date much when we were young. She choose to be alone because she was (and is) still in love with my dad and she feared nobody would be able to love my brother and I like he did. While I think that there are amazing men who make awesome step-dads, I am also glad that she didn’t shack up with whatever man would have her or let anyone ever mistreat us.
I grew up. I went to college. I have a career. I own a business in a mostly male realm. I have accomplished many things. Being female has not held me back. Feminism worked. Or did it?
I am also divorced and a single mom. While that is not entirely my doing, I will admit, among other things, I did not have my priorities straight and put my education and career before my marriage and then my family. I didn’t even question it at the time. I was living the feminist script. Having a man was “optional.” I could do without.
What a foolish, foolish thing to think.
I am not sure if things would have turned out differently had I done differently, and that’s something I will never know. I do know that if I ever marry again, my attitude and priorities will be entirely different.
Women do need men. Men make a woman’s life more stable and secure and safe and easy in so many ways, little and big, I can’t even list them.
Sure, there are men who aren’t good partners or husbands, men women are better off without. But that’s very different than saying women don’t need men, that all men are disposable.
I had a conversation with my mom a few months back, where I shared these ideas with her, and she surprised me by agreeing wholeheartedly. Like me, she’s seen with time and life experience how much easier women with a good man and a happy stable marriage have it in life. A good man is a blessing, not a burden. A woman is wise to know it, and to know how to be a good woman to her man in return.
Let those who have ears hear.
Redpillgirlnotes,
Here is a link to the famous GirlWritesWhat video.
In the end, she notices that men are expected to sacrifice and get no recognition for it in the present. “No wonder they are starting to get pissed off.”
Redpillgirlnotes,
Here is a link to GirlWritesWhat’s famous video.
Redpillgirlnmotes,
I keep trying to leave a link to a Karen Straughan video that is germaine and my comment keeps getting deleted.
Anyway, she does have one entitled “Feminism and the Disposable Male” that is her most watched video.
Redpillgirlnotes,
I had to do a test to see if you still allow links to youtube.
In trading comments with Farm Boy at the other blog, I realized that Madison Avenue has already disposed of men. Advertising agencies consider men to be of such little value, they won’t try to reach them anymore. That soaks through the whole of society.
Advertising agencies consider men to be of such little value, they won’t try to reach them anymore.
They try to sell them beer and pickup trucks.
If women are not interested in making babies, they are just as disposable as men.
that’s very different than saying women don’t need men, that all men are disposable.
Individual women might not need men in their life, but they still need men collectively. It seems easy for them to pretend that they don’t. But that is just posturing.
I will see if it is somehow getting put in moderation, I noticed sometimes when people put a link it does that, stay tuned!
Good point Farm Boy. I think individual women need men, they just don’t want to admit it. But the multi million dollar dating and relationship advice (mostly BAD advice) suggests otherwise. I think women are just as confused as men about how all this works. And yes, women also need men on a much larger level, I wrote about that in this post: https://notesfromaredpillgirl.com/2014/09/12/what-have-men-done-for-you-lately/
Awww now Farm Boy, women are good for more than making babies! But it’s true, women need a man to do that, too!
Hi Fuzzie, it was somehow tagged as spam. I tried to approve it but it doesn’t seem to be showing up so I will copy and paste it here:
Redpillgirlnotes,
Here is the famous GirlWritesWhat video.
Redpillgirlnotes,
Beg to differ. I did see a feminist claim that a visit to a sperm bank with a credit card would solve that. If I were in heaven waiting to be born, I wouldn’t want her for my Mommy.
Even then there is a man involved! 😉
You do not understand. Throughout history, sperm is cheap and wombs are expensive. That is why one used to have “women to the lifeboats first” types of things. But if women are not willing to use their womb for its intended purpose, then they are just as disposable as men.
Back in the bad old days Patriarchy men were “happy” to be “disposable” when it came to protecting, preserving and provided for what was theirs; their woman, their kids, their soil, their nation, their God and Gods. Now none of those things are ours so being disposable is a suckers bet
Bloom is that you?
Do women need men? Yes. Feminine or Feminist alike. They just have different views off the same platform.
The only question is which one is truly content with the gender/life God gave them?
I have never heard a Feminist / modern american woman say she was happy. In fact look at the 38+ year old women who now want marriage after a life of ‘”I don’t need a man’ mantra. Of course men were an integral part of her life. She just couldn’t admit it. That is weakness and that was for me .. right girls? Back to the question. Why do they run back to biology after a life of success (re: feminist imperative)? Because she isn’t happy. So, she is indeed in need of a man.
The sad part is she has been shunning the very men she now needs to befriend. Because the one she doesn’t have now is the ability to bond. So, she once again will not be happy. She killed the ine special gift she could’ve offered. Children and bonding with them and her husband. Now all she has is a husband she can’t offer any satisfying love/bond.
My mom married my dad right out of HS .. 50 years of marriage in upcoming march of 2015 .. and they both can share a bond that has kept’em together through thick and thin. All because of a traditional marriage that is all to uncommon today. Both filed their gender role and are as happy today as when they kicked all the kids out ;@P
Ladies .. learn feom others mistakes .. you won’t live long enough to make them all yourself.
Bloom love the post .. just be careful I hear there are bears in these here parts.
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darn phone
was for men .. not me
Because the one ABILITY she doesn’t have now
The more type.with this phone the more I grow to dislike it.
I do the same bc of my phone all the time! Lol. Thanks for checking it out Honeycomb!
The thing that both the extremist and even moderates from the feminism and Men’s Rights Movements like the red pill keep get wrong horribly wrong is that men and women don’t need each other to survive in this modern world. But we do still need each other, not just to produce the next generation, but to complete each other.
Often times in disscusions like this men-and even women-will refer to the story of Adam and Eve saying that if God meant for women to be equal he would have made Eve out of the earth instead of from one of Adam’s ribs. This where they wrong.
First off what made Adam supiror was because he was the firsr living thing God made after finishing the earth. The earth and dust he molded Adam from was the same used to make all of the animals but since they came second Adam was supiror to all of them so if Eve-who was created on the sixth day-was formed from the earth she would have not only been inferior to Adam but to the animals that were created before her which is not what God intended.
Whether it was because Adam was lonly or that it seemed like he would need some assistance God decided to make Adam a helper. He formed Eve from Adam’s rib for three reasons So she would be superior to all the animals and know that she would belong to Adam as his companion.
If God had wanted her to be Adam’s servant he would have made her out of a leg bone, kneeling at his feet. If God had wanted Eve to be a follower she would have been molded out of a piece of spine, always at Adam’s back. These two method’s would have left Adam crippled; stumbling over a kneeling Eve or falling onto his face because she was too busy hiding in his shadow to help steady him.
That is why God used Adam’s rib. He wanted Eve to be companion always at Adam’s side, giving him comfort and support and reciving the same from Adam who loved her as the wonderful gift God had blessed him with.
Like with most things the concept has become tarnished with time and is now so distorted that men and women believe they can not be week in front of each other. But again this is completely wrong.
My mother once told me that a women who stays at home cleaning and taking care of her children is just as strong as one who runs a fiurtune five hundred company and a man who cries at romances is still as tuff as the one who can drive a nail through his leg without flinching. This isn’t just because they have great self esteem or don’t buy into gender roles but that they know that they have each other to lean on when they’re feeling weak. And before you ask this applies to gay couples as well since we don’t need to be married to recieve such support. It given by parents, siblings, friends or anyone else who loves is allowed to love by that man or woman.
What breaks my heart about these forums isn’t the nasty words but that when someone says “All men are rapist!” or “Womem are nothing but sluts!” they are not only insulting a part of themselves but one of the best parts.
Their bitterness pushes them into an isolation that they only realize is toxic when it’s too lateto get back the love their prejudice threw away.
So I say No, men are not disposable but niether are women and even though we don’t need to have a ring on our fingers to have value anymore there’s no shame in turning to your husband, boyfriend, wife, girlfriend, best friend, parent, older sibling, younger sibling, or any one else you hold in your heart and say “I need your help.”
Thanks so much for adding that, I agree wholeheartedly!
Actually no. From the very beginning Adam demonstrated his Authority over the animals by naming them. Likewise he named his wife: “woman” after declaring she is bone of his bones and flesh of his flesh.
Later after the fall his named his wife “eve”
The Complementary relations of the sexes not only is horizontal with the man and woman being unique in their weaknesses and strengths and in marriage completing each other. It also includes the vertical dimension of hierarchy where man is the head of his family.
The complementary relations of the sexes therefore is 3d in nature in contrast to the 2d nature of “equality”