Have you ever stopped to think about how all those roads you drive on everyday, and the electricity you rely on, and the operational phone and cell phone system, and those buildings, and microwaves, and bridges and even hairdryers were built? And who built them?
Men. Yep. By and large, men built them! Men who had conceived of, designed, created, and then produced and sold them. Truth is, those “misogynistic, bumbling, no good” men build civilization, and protect it, and keep it rolling along.
Now I am not saying women don’t do their part, and yes men are not having babies, but those are hairs we aren’t splitting here.
So what would happen to a world without men? Or a world where men have so given up on women that they just don’t care to build things, or fix them, or design them, or produce them anymore? Exactly how long until the toilets were overflowing, and the power was out, and a fire was raging, food supplies were gone, much less makeup or high heels, and there was mayhem in the streets? Yep. Not long. Not long at all.
I don’t know about you, sister, but I really can’t build things much past a pre-drilled, pre-assembled, all parts included kit — if that. I’d be lucky to get some curtain rods up if civilization ended.
“Educate yourself,” you may be saying. I have tried. I took woodworking class, and autoshop, and what I learned is that me and tools don’t mix very well.
In the years since I have also realized things don’t build themselves. They don’t build themselves at my house, they don’t build themselves in my town, they don’t build themselves in my state, and so on…
Men build things. Women need men to build things. Women need men to care about women so they will build things. All good reasons to be nice to men, show some appreciation, respect, and gratitude.
I know when I drive by a road construction crew these days I notice them — men. Men working hard. Men making civilization work. In all kinds of weather. In every season. Every day of the year.
To many women, men are invisible. Until their car breaks, or the cabinet drawer comes off the rail, or she can’t open that jar of pickles. She just assumes he will be there. But what if he wasn’t?
Men are actually a huge asset to our society. It might do us better to treat them as such. Because without men, things start to roll backwards, sometimes pretty darn quick.
So be good to the men in your life — we women need them, and their willingness and goodwill, to keep it all going and flowing and working.
Ooooom……consider it. Mind blowing, isn’t it?
Where would we be without men?
I hope we never have to find out.
Notes From a Red Pill Girl 
What happens with out men? Look at the black community
I live in that community. The township used to have the population density of Manhattan. Now it’s the poorest township in the state of Pennsylvania. The buildings are so decayed and falling apart it was used as a natural set for “The Road”, a post apocalyptic movie.
We have a community that is mostly single moms and retirees. About 40 buildings each year are demolished, very few are renovated. The few entrepreneurs that are trying to slow the slide are, you guessed it, men.
Ak, ton! Ahem, ok… Not exactly where I was going with this but thanks for commenting!
@ eccentric in you community, what would need to occur to create positive change?
Gosh that sounds super bleak btw!
Can you think of a more stark example of life without men?
@ Ton I live in a rural area, and really don’t get a chance to see what you are describing up close, not that I don’t believe you and Eccentric. If that’s the future, the future is looking pretty darn bleak! I don’t want that to be the future. How can we stop that? Tomorrow is not yet written…
We can stop it but who has the stomach for it?
Well I can hardly do in a spider Ton, so I am not thinking it would be me. I can be pretty darn scrappy in many ways, but I have my limits in that realm, if you imply for[e.
But I make good sammiches and tea for those who protect me and mine!
And I know a fair amount about day-to-day injury type medicine, and edible plants and herbs, and food preservation, and even making booze. I would hope in such a situation these would be considered assets!
Awakening is my hope, awakening…not collapse…
The awakening will come after collapse but if it doesn’t there is still only one solution
And this is why people need to turn off the TV and think. THINK about where this is going, and if they want to go there. And if not, awaken. People all too often leave governmen+ to run itself. But in a system led by the peoples, if the peoples are paying more attention to the latest reality show than their leaders, that doesn’t work. People need to WAKE UP>
So if that is the case Ton, where will it NOT collapse? Looks like I may need to consider a move…
Ok now I am curled up in a fetal ball sucking my thumb Ton, thanks! Pfffft. 😉
Doubtful but post on my blog and then I’ll email you
LOL at a system being lead by the people. Not since 1860
> I don’t want that to be the future. How can we stop that?
FWIW, I started a monologue on the blog goinggalt.us to try to address that question. The idea is not to create a retreat in an undisclosed location, but to just say “forget the collapsing society” and start the rebuilding the solution on site before it collapses completely.
You see a bit of that in my township where people are taking empty lots and building urban gardens. Our largest of such is five acres on reclaimed land near a very old steel mill. The mayor (a big tough looking man), who has a masters degree in public policy, is trying to bring in cultural creatives to foster an environment where people would want to create business startups. In all fairness the cultural creatives are a nice blend of men and women, but for the most part the new business ventures have been driven by men.
What it boils down to in order to stop the rot is for talented people to forsake lucrative careers in the exploitative business sectors and refocus to regenerative business sectors. For most people that would mean dramatically simplifying their lives, such as getting rid of most television watching as mentioned earlier. It also requires people to be mindful of the consequences of their choices, especially the unintended consequences. Each of us is either helping to allow rot to progress or we’re being mindful and working to stop and reverse the rot.
By the way, most government can barely run itself, let along run a country with any degree of efficiency. That’s why the USA’s founding fathers wanted as small a federal government as possible. And this was after reviewing all known forms of government going back in history to the Roman times. We allowed it to grow big, so we got what we deserved for not paying attention and squawking.
I hope that it doesn’t go to an apocalypse. What I would hope for is one event that would make the whole population realize that we are going down the wrong road. Then, we change course.
Someone else had a theory that things could continue as they are indefinitely. Men would be working cheap jobs and living two a room, in celibacy.
It’s hard to see the future.
To stop the rot you have to cut it out. Nothing else will work for any length of time
The govt grew to big because we let the rot in. Well mostly yankees. they needed those low wages to earn more cash in northern factories
@ fuzzie have you read the book “The Tipping Point”? In it the author shows how sometimes a major problem resolves on a dime, once it hits a tipping point. Well worth reading, lots of wisdom there! This is my hope, before collapse a tipping point will change all…
@ ton so what is the solution? ? We cannot undo the past but the future is not yet written!
@ ton it is a sticky wicket for sure, but not one I am ready to give up on. I believe….
you do not want that answer on your blog but the best possible answer is breaking the union so regional issues can be resolved by the people Calcutta affected by them
The ugly truth must be viewed and embraced as well. Which will also never happen if we are still in this giant union where people in Astonishing get to tell people in NC how to live and what solutions to which problems we can try
I would have faith in a potential political solution if the South was free, but we will never have one tied to yankees and the left coast
You can believe in wish granting leprechauns living at the end of rainbows but that doesn’t make it so.
Ok, are you guys not taking me serious because I (or my avatar) is a chick???? Really???? Pfffft
@ ton so if the south was its own, what would that look like? I am not trying to argue, I am trying to understand…. I lived in the southwest but as my one brief stop on the Atlanta airport showed me, that’s not “the south.”
Most memorable quote in the Atlanta airport was, in a massive southern drawl, “off in’ you wanna go to hell, ya gotta go thru ‘lanta”
Redpillgirlnotes,
About your avatar, is that the new rooster? And, I’m taking you seriously.
I hope that you’re right about the tipping point. We can’t stand too much more of this. While I never saw the link on Stingray’s post, that was awful and no man should have to put up with it.
Atlanta has always been a transportation hub for road, rail , and air. Come to think of it, so is Indianapolis.
@ eccentric true that, after interacting w gov+. lunacy while running my own biz, I am now all for small gov+. Getting OUT of the way of biz! Also agreed good people can’t look away, they have to be the change.
@ fuzzie the “not taking me seriously” thing was a joke. You know, bc of the chick avatar 😉 this is not the actual new chick but it looks very similar, golden w brown stripes. Sting ray’s post was a good one. Thanks for sharing that! Re Atlanta, that airport was huge! And the level of diversity, let’s just say I had never seen that, despite growing up in a fairly diverse military town. Where I live now, the pacific northwest, is not very diverse at all, rare to see a minority. Unless you count women as that, and then we’re all over the place! 😉
The union has destroyed our economy. Environmental law killed coal and textile jobs making us poorer. They also keep us from going after natural gas ans oil. Tobacco acts wrecked the value of our land then yankees poured in. We almost got queer marriage forced on us due to transplants voting for. Same for them and gun laws.
Forced bussing sends our kids all over town and to bad schools because diversity. We don’t set our own election law because of the feds. Govt schools have removed us from our own history books
The list is damn near endless.
Well darling that’s shy you don’t need to relocate
Diversity is a curse meant to break the power of Southron White voters
“Can you think of a more stark example of life without men?”
No.
Eccentric, I tried to use the address goinggalt.us and it didn’t work. It sounds like an interesting site, could you provide a link?
I’m on the emailing list for John Robb’s (from Global Guerrillas) newletter on Resilient communities. It makes some useful suggestions too:
http://globalguerrillas.typepad.com/globalguerrillas/resilient_community/
It will be a while before I can put most of the suggestions into practice. We’ll need to live on property we own for that. But, hopefully some day.
Uh oh, you need the www or it doesn’t work:
http://www.goinggalt.us/
Lol! That’s all it took? Now I feel dim. Usually my browser autocorrects for that.
Thanks Eccentric! 🙂
In regard to speculating on a world without men, an argument can be made that we already live in it. The majority of creatures with the XY chromosome have long since traded their manhood for cash, prizes, and installment plans. Maybe a few pats on the head from a corporation or government agency.
“Men” today are just resource providers to the State/females, which is why 80% of the female population goes apeshit-in-love when they encounter a vestigial sovereign male; and apeshit-in-rage when they can’t lock said male down.
I don’t care if this strikes people as shrill. It’s commonplace for a man today to be required by law to give more than 50% of his income to the government and perhaps a self-involved woman who hasn’t let him see his son or participate in his existence in years. Is there any definition of Manhood that excludes participating in the acculturation, education, and maturation of his own son?
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I think it will be interesting to see what happens when there’s something like a coordinated EMP attack or some such by our friends in Russia, Iran and/or China.
I suspect such a thing will just invoke, on the part of the government and the mass of droning fools that thing the government should “care about them”, or “protect them” draconian martial law.
The problem with that is the government is truly incompetent (see: Katrina, Obamacare, Benghazi, the war against “JV team”, the war against poverty) when it is not malevolent. So we’ll have some sort of social End Days. Millions of desperate, ignorant people will pour out of their urban warehouses and pick clean the surrounding suburbs. The chaos will be unspeakable. It will ensue within 72 hours of the event; in the event, food in urban environments will be looted within 12 hours.
The WashDC area was paralyzed and in wholesale panic within three hours of the 9/11 attacks. And they were small potatoes compared to the effect of the grid shutting down for a year or two.
The Remaining Men, who long ago stopped telling anyone about their weapons, stashed food, gardens, trucks with 100 gallon aux tanks — they will be on the two-lanes lighting out for the territories. They’re not going to stand around and be told not to defend themselves, because such asinine behavior is called “noble” or “moral” by the politicians. The drones will, but not those Remaining Men. The drones will be stripped and slaughtered, and the government dependents will starve, freeze and kill each other.
A growing sense of this vulnerability is apparent. I have a very good friend, former neighbor, who is a very nice man with a very nice family living a very nice life. They believe in very nice things like kitties have souls and trees have souls and boys should not be circumcised and fuck-all: the usual buffet of useless virtuous causes that very nice people like to brag on. At dinner Monday he asked me to help him armor up (not that I’m really qualified). He and his wife and their four children live in a very nice suburb of a very big city. They’re building a safe room, buying hundreds of gallons of water, canned goods, now weapons. *These are mainstream UMC people.*
Perhaps this current malaise, and dread, is ill-founded, as the practice of building home fallout shelters was in the late ’50s early ’60s. But we should recall that building such shelters proved not to be such a bad idea, during a certain 13 days in October, 1961. And the feral urban populations, and completely suborned and submissive ‘productive’ classes, are the true weapons that could be turned against the rest of us.
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So my cheery thesis, Bloom, is that we see all around us a society that actively replaces men with government payments and BMW lease obligations and asset-stripping taxes and broken family wealth transfers. If one accepts this thesis one must ask what will happen when the SHTF. I suspect it will look a lot like West Baltimore a few weeks ago, or L.A. during the Rodney King riots — including the self-preservation retreat by the supposed protectors, while idiot politicians proclaim their “care and concern.”
Bv very true..scary thought!
Remember building things is a lot more than just manual labor. The construction worker builds the building, but first the architect creates the vision and the engineer creates the design. Those fields are predominantly male dominated as well, but increasingly fewer students of either gender are pursuing STEM degrees (at least, here in the USA — in developing economies they are all over education like Mike Huckabee heading for the girls’ shower).
The real issue isn’t lack of respect for men, but lack of respect for science and education. Stupid men aren’t a huge asset to anyone.
Very true walker!
LOL @ science and education. Most of each is a mess of lies and recently there has been a number of articles written discussing ho unsound the scientific community has been come. I reckon 90% of education is a waste who’s only real purpose is to funnel money to banks and colleges with little ascertainable value or return on investment
http://wmbriggs.com/post/16092/
@ Ton, it’s interesting to me how much science CAN’T explain. Medicine, for example. I have written about health and medicine for over 15 years, and I am always amazed at how often these researchers can’t explain “why” some health issue happens, they only know what pill or surgery or what not to go to. In my other work, there’s a fair amount of science also involved there. But it’s both really complex and also very simple. A lot of science is really common sense, and close observation. With eyes, ears, taste, touch, and smell I can tell exactly what is happening without the lab tests…
However, do not ask me to do more than regular math, lol! Algebra? No. I still have nightmares about that question about a train leaving Boston and another leaving LA and they are both traveling such and such an hour and how many peanuts are in the mixed nuts served on board…or something… I have no idea how many peanuts there are!!!
p.s. I have that bodies hit the floor song stuck in my head now, thanks Ton! Lol. Mosh Pit!!!
I have used it a lot but, it works.
Something to share with the younger Bloomette? What is amazing is that Anee Murray gets all the way through without breaiking into laughter.
That’s professional.
There was been a certain disrespect for the building of physical things that has been inculcated in our culture over the last several decades. Politicians, academics, and “community leaders” may talk about the need for “good manufacturing jobs,” but those same people, or their earlier incarnations, have done much to damage America’s manufacturing and infrastructure industries. I discussed this in my post Faux Manufacturing Nostalgia:
http://chicagoboyz.net/archives/11680.html
“Millions of desperate, ignorant people will pour out of their urban warehouses and pick clean the surrounding suburbs. The chaos will be unspeakable. It will ensue within 72 hours of the event; in the event, food in urban environments will be looted within 12 hours. ”
I think you’re exactly right that this will happen.
Several thoughts come to mind.
1. Our current government overlords secretly long for exactly this kind of scenario. They gleefully rub their hands at the thought of it, because it will give them the chance for what they really want — total power; martial law; and totalitarian control of the nation, its resources, and the means of production.
2. Government will sweep in and use it as the excuse/basis for imposing martial law. It will include broad, sweeping “emergency” powers granted to the President, the Cabinet or the “kitchen cabinet”. Once imposed, it will never be lifted. Once those powers are concentrated in one man or a group of men, they will never be rolled back. It will be a literal coup d’état.
3. BV’s doomsday scenario of millions of people swarming out of rotting urban centers and into the suburbs will happen despite martial law. First, the overlords want it, and they’ll allow it. Second, even if government tried to stop it, they couldn’t. You can’t stop a mass short term migration of, oh, probably 30 million people over short distances in densely populated areas.
4. The “coup d’état” will collapse, because the land mass of the US is so expansive that the military won’t be able to hold it. It’s just too big to hold through hostile military occupation. There isn’t the supply chain, the resources or the personnel to hold it by military occupation. One of three things will happen: (a) a massive conventional military invasion by land, sea and air followed by indefinite military occupation which will itself be unstable and vulnerable to guerrilla attack; (b) full scale nuclear attack; or (c) the US will fracture into several different regional political states with provisional governments springing up.
Legit point David. Legit point.
The govt already has as much control as can be established. All the sheep line up
I’m right good at semi complex math, on the fly while people shoot at you. How else do you get that little piece of lead to hit a man sized target 14 football fields away.
More music for Bloom. Not for the Bloomettes.
I think Thomas Jefferson would agree that we are all reblels and insurgents.
“One of three things will happen: (a) a massive conventional military invasion by land, sea and air followed by indefinite military occupation which will itself be unstable and vulnerable to guerrilla attack; (b) full scale nuclear attack; or (c) the US will fracture into several different regional political states with provisional governments springing up.”
Think if all of this came to pass it would most likely be door number 3 Deti.
Per number one (a), the US military (and Reserve, Guard, everything) has been in the course of a huge drawdown for a long long time. They simply don’t have the manpower to go mano-e-mano style (they don’t even have half the force needed to honor our security obligations around the globe at present) and they sure wouldn’t be able to force conscription under this scenario (they could try but they would be unsuccessful).
Per number two (b), I cannot think of one regime that has unleashed a WMD at their disposal when faced with impending overthrow, even if they’ve used them quite liberally under different (more favorable) conditions before (not Czarist Russia, not Nazi Germany, not Saddam during the Gulf war). That’s one of the reasons I’ve never really bought that the Ghouta chemical attack in Syria was conducted by the Syrian government (indirectly, it’s possible…if someone got a hold of it and used it, but as a condoned attack conducted by the Syrian government, no). So I don’t see the US government (unless the machines actually take over) conducting a nuke attack or any other attack of that sort.
Liz:
I think you misunderstood me, or my comment was unclear/ambiguous, or both.
I didn’t mean the US military invading or occupying its own land. I meant US soil being invaded conventionally by a hostile force (possibly Russia or China).
I didn’t mean the US launching a nuclear attack. I meant a hostile power nuking the US.
For the doubters who think that the USA would _never_ institute martial law… This link documents one of at least 17 Executive Orders that can be put into place with the stroke of a presidential pen:
http://www.disastercenter.com/laworder/12656.htm
Executive orders are issued by the President and completely bypass Congressional authority. If these EOs are put into effect collectively, the Constitution is effectively suspended and martial law is in place. They would completely reorganize industry, trade, communications, and even decide where we live and work.
What is really frightening is most of these (all?) were put into place prior to 9/11 and the Patriot Act. Not even during the Civil War was the rule of law suspended to the extent these orders would enact.
Many US veterans who still abide by their oath to defend the Constitution against all enemies, foreign _and domestic_, would go down swinging before they allowed these laws to take full effect.
Oops. Sorry Deti, I misread.
Check your history the usa military has never failed to fire on citizens. Never. Not even when those citizens where ww 1 vets. In 1860 any where eager to engage in genocide and war crimes against Southern Whites.
Liz you fail to understand the tribalism of the .middle east. Evidence such as it is points to IS using the chem weapons but have no doubt bathist Syria would do it, just like bathist iraq gassed Kurds. Tribal affiliation counts over there, not a sense of national identity.
I’m not sure if the first part of your post was to me, Ton? I don’t doubt that, I just don’t think they have anywhere near the number of boots necessary to enforce a nation-wide police state (or anything close).
Per the other, I don’t doubt that Syria WOULD use chemical weapons I doubt that they would use them in that context. Nations use chemical weapons when it is advantageous for them to do so. It’s not a terribly useful tactic if they’re facing impending overthrow and expect to have to be held accountable soon.
While technically true Liz, the usa govt doesn’t have to put a dude with a gun every thirty yards. Just smash flat the trouble spots
The tactics the govt will not use to win the war on terror, would be used on White folks who tell the govt to fuck off, reducing the need for manpower
Further more then can produce troops at a rapid pace
Syria is having issues because of us involvement and when your back is to the wall well.that’s when you put all option on the table. The Syrian govt would die to pretty much that last dude if IS etc lull out a win. They have no reason not to use their chem rounds if they were really fucked. It’s the whole.better to be judged by 12 then carried by 6 thing.
IS wins, Syrian leadership get the staring role in a youtube beheading video. Use chems and lose? Well its the same staring role any which way. Use them and win? They get tried in the wold court, maybe. Most likely nothing but angry words.
At that point what do they have to lose? Nor are they particularity found of the trouble makers, being of a different tribe and all so they have no kinship ties to prevent the use of chem weapons. Sort of why the north felt all warm and fuzzy waging war on Southern women and children or the plains inidains.
You have very solid basic understanding Liz but still lacking in depth knowledge
I concede. Those are some really good points, Ton. Thanks for the response.
It’s what I do darling and being, trained, experienced, schooled and amoral leads to a different level of understanding
I agree eccentric, and I would be among them, if nothing else supplying tea and sammiches. But it is a day I hope to never see.
Assad has already used WMDs (chem warfare) on his own citizens (not Alewhites).
The USG will just round up previously identified troublemakers; this will thrill most local cop shops, to be used as post-democratic SS wanna-be’s. They’ll finally get to use all their phony warrior toys. The mass of the country will appreciate the heightened ‘security.’
Remember, we live in a country now where removing your own money from the bank, in a manner that does not subject you to monitoring, is a priori a felony.
Hitler and the NDSAP wouldn’t have gotten very far without cooperation from the police. Not a single one was prosecuted and by the time they got around to prosecuting the judges, people were being told to go easy.
I hate it when Carlos Santanaya is proven right.
“Where would we be without men?
I hope we never have to find out”
I bloody well hope you do find out!
We will rejoice whilst we watch this “civilization” burn to the f*cking ground.
Menotyou,
I don’t want Redpillgirlnotes to find out. She hasn’t contributed to this. That enough have to make you feel the way you do is is awful. Having read yesterday’s Captain Capitalism post, all this MGTOW shaming has got to stop. The SMP has damaged a lot of guys and they will need to heal.
When I read something like that, I wonder what exactly the poster is trying to accomplish.
Liz,
I took it as a cry of pain. This SMP has crushed a lot of men. If the 80/20 rule is to believed, then a supermajority of men have been adversely affected. When the reality of that bubbles to the surface, go long on shotguns and canned food.
Liz, when women organize and advocate for restoring equity to male-female marital relations, and restoring legitimacy to fathers in divorce, then perhaps you can tut-tut when a guy says “burn.”
I don’t see why Bloom’s article explaining to women that it’s important to value men warrants a response of “hey, I’m going to celebrate and dance over your burned up stuff”. Maybe just the courtesy of an intro first? This is a drive-by.
Liz,
Fair enough, point taken.
FuzzieWuzzie
“I don’t want Redpillgirlnotes to find out. She hasn’t contributed to this”
‘You’ – is the female collective. The author (Redpillgirlnotes) too was speaking for the collective in her writing. It was not a personal attack at all. In fact i think her work is admirable. But i do not believe we can come back from this as a civilization.
The only way i see is a reset of some kind. Civilizations and Empires always rise and fall. We are now in the decline of Empire. It is systemic and it is everywhere for those with eyes to see. Everything from our monetary and legal justice systems to the farming and distribution of food and medicine has been hijacked by what could biblically be described as evil and is definitely not sustainable. We have to crash and burn before we can rise again.
If society collapses due to any number of reasons, Natural/Cosmic/Economic, etc. The system will be reset. No more feminism.
Women of this day and age have never had to experience any form of hardship whatsoever. The trivial complaints of modern woman would make their Grandmothers spin in their graves! And it seems that when civilizations come to the point where we can entertain frivolous notions such as feminism, society then collapses and we go back to the stone age. Human history is littered with such instances of rise and falls due to numerous factors.
I believe that history repeats and civilizations rise and fall in cycles, just like any other thing in the universe.
Here’s an entertaining notion. Perhaps during one of these cyclical collapses thousands of years ago man learned from his mistakes and set about finding a way of preserving his knowledge (writing) to warn future civilizations so this would never happen again. And Man called it The Bible.
C’mon Comet!
Hi mento you, thank you for the comment. I personally am hoping for an awakening rather than a collapse but the stupidity quoitent does seem to be getting ever higher and things I could not have imagined happening just a few years ago are now mainstream… It does have a wiff of Rome to it. Thanks for expanding on your comment.
My screen name is actually MeNotYou.
Though, it is often confused in Red Pill spaces.
Thank you for your reply.
Oops MeNotYou, my apologies! 🙂
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