There’s an acronym in red pill speak AWALT which is short for “all women are like that” in reference to the idea that all women have a certain set of operating principles that drive female behavior.
Often women who comment on red pill blogs will reject this idea and say NAWALT, short for “Not all women are like that.” Sometimes male bloggers will acknowledge the feelings of female readers with the NAWALT disclaimer, or it will be said to keep female readers from taking the red pill discussion or concepts too personally, which can right quick derail any productive inter-gender discussion.
A less often seen version is EWALT or “enough women are like that” which means enough women prove the rule to make the general assumption valid.
So are AWLT? Even me? The longer I honestly examine myself and women around me the more I have to admit yes, AWALT. Even if they won’t admit, can’t admit, or wish they were not. Like it or not, AWALT. Yep. Even me.
It’s called the female imperative, and it is deeply ingrained in all women and it is what makes women different from men.
TRIGGER WARNING:
And yes, women are different from men on almost every level (right down to each and every cell, even) because the experience, upsides, and downsides and all the rest of being a woman are totally different than those of a man. Women and men are not the same, not at all.
If it helps any, men have their own imperative which means AMALT.
The rules of society, largely jettisoned about 40 years ago, were what kept a cap on both gender’s imperatives. Or as they say, nobody got everything they wanted but everybody got some of what they wanted, and it was enough of a give and take that it was largely pretty functional and stable.
That world no longer exists, except in remote pockets of closed off religious sects. For the rest of us that means hell in a hand basket, a new world order, and almost everything you have been told is true or the way it works is not anymore, which btw isn’t working very well. (Don’t believe me? Just look around.)
Yep AWALT and AMALT. Society has subverted these truths but that has not changed them.
Don’t blame me, I didn’t design men or women, nor was I involved in the decision to radically change “the way it works” in what was perhaps the biggest social experiment of all time. (Thanks “Me” Generation! Said sarcastically.)
Like you, I am (as one manosphereian so aptly put it) simply sorting through the wreckage. Sorry if I am the first to deliver the news.
We can’t choose our imperative directives, or society, but hopefully on an individual level at least, we can recognize this and try to transcend the worst of our natural tendencies and to nurture the best rather than to be blindly driven around by them. Like it used to be.
Or not (See Miley Cyrus.)
Let those who have ears hear.
Great post!
See Miley Cyrus
Much visible to see there is.
All women are like that
All men are like that
It’s called the human condition
The only way to not be like that is to
1) know you are like that
2) always guard yourself to not be like that
Which also means we will all fail and be just like that from time to time.
Then the questions become
how often do we fail and behave just like that?
How do we correct the cam he we do when we fuck up (or even if we do nee to address it)?
How do we prevent ourselves from fucking up in the future? ( if needs be, lots of things we do are minor infractions, doing no real harm, requiring no remedial action)
Very well put Ton. Guarding oneself is a good move. and…We all fall short. Hopefully not too often or much or if not that at least not like some damn fool. 🙂
More on feminine imperative here it is,
https://spawnyspace.wordpress.com/2015/01/04/the-red-pill-classroom-the-feminine-imperative/
That’s an excellent explanation of the female imperative Yoda!
Any fella here want to take a shot at laying out the male imperative?
And I am curious whether there is a single unified male imperative? What say thee, men? Procreate? Provide? Protect? Play video games? (Kidding!) what drives men?
That’s an excellent explanation of the female imperative Yoda!
Thank the author Farm Boy you should.
And I am curious whether there is a single unified male imperative?
An imperative they may have.
But individual it is.
No Team.Man there would be.
The only way to not be like that is to
1) know you are like that
2) always guard yourself to not be like that
Much like Jedi Training I gave Luke it is.
The dark side powerful it is.
Understand and on guard one must be
Indeed that Farm Boy is well worth reading.
Yoda, esteemed to have your comments here I would be. Share wisdom you must. Listening we are. 🙂
“An imperative they may have.
But individual it is.
No Team.Man there would be.”
But Yoda, what about the ebul oppressive patriarchy out to get team women? I hear a lot about that. Doesn’t team women need to ban together against those brutish bully men? Why what would team women do then???
Thank you my darling though you don’t want to get caught cheerleading do you……
I would also say there is no unified male imperative. In broad terms? Sure. Get laid, spawn kids. Then there are more ways of going about it then I can count…. without taking off my boots and dropping my britches. I think this has to do with a man’s multiple possible uses in a tribe/ clan, where women are much more specialized. A dude can be a killer of men and be useful, a killer of deer and be useful, watch fish and be useful, build tools and be useful etc etc. A woman? Drop litters of kids, tend to them and do something low investment when the liter leaves some free time
Also I think the female imperative is more damaging due to its hidden nature, played on the margins with layers of deception and subterfuge.
Redpillgirlnotes,
Good to see you back at your blog.
Of the three, I think EWALT may be the most damaging to women’s interest. Factoring that in on a back of the enveope calculation, itakes things from feasible to not.
As for the male imperative, I would say that it is very close to God’s admonition “to be fruitful and multiply”. In any event, It’s upfront and out in the open, nothing covert about it. Heck, the female imperitive is so covert, few women are aware of it.
LOL well said bear well said
Redpillgirlnotes,
Don’t be dismayed by the lack of comments. I think, once youstart posting again reularly everyhting will pick up.
I am not dismayed fuzzie, I think you saying what the male imperative is makes the entire thread! Lol. 🙂 I was going to guess the same but, ahem, didnt have the courage to lay it out there straight like that. Yep. It’s all about…ahem.
And sammiches!
Redpillgirlnotes,
Tes! Food id very important. Women who make food and care enough to share it with men win lots of bonus points.
When I said “dismayed”, I meant the lack of comments and likely lack of views. It’ll be a while getting your following back.
Yes, all people are like that. If people weren’t like that (solipsistic) Communism would actually work, and we would need very few rules or laws to make people behave. We wouldn’t even need locks on doors.
I think I’ve unlocked the manospere code. I’m pretty slow, but I finally got it.
Female gives an anecdote —–> “Female solipsism!”
Male gives an anecdote——>”Female solipsism!”
Female talks about the weather——-> “Female solipsism!”
Male talks about the weather——> “Female solipsism!”
Folks at Rollo’s seem to have fully accepted exactly half of Ayn Rand’s Objectivist philosophy.
I really need to break myself of this mind hickup that is my internet habit (and I need to stay out of Rollo’s comment section). It sucks because I enjoy discussing this stuff and there are so few avenues for it.
I met your “friend” at Rolls, not sure if you saw that Liz but wow! You were not exaggerating.
Once I came up with the theory that he is really a feminist troll posturing as an “alpha” but too stupid to get what an alpha actually is, then I found “him” quite humor
I need to post more Fuzzie, it’s true. I have ideas for several but have not had the time. Soon!
There’s more than one, Bloom. That place reminds me of my old middle school bus.
Shame on me for even reading. But there are a few people who I respect who participate there and I like to read their opinions (mostly from JFG, but a few others too). I’ll need to just refrain from reading though.
Liz,
Thank you for telling us about Rollo’s comment setion. I will take your word for it. Lucky for you, you have the froggie helmet.
Redpillgirlnotes,
Perhaps, as the nights grow longer, there will be more time for writing. Looking forward to it.
Fuzzie if I commented less at spawny’s maybe I could write more but I like hanging there too! I will make an effort to crank out more posts!
@ Liz I get what you mean, adbg is there, and bad painter, and he’ll hound, and several other j4g guys. And actually when I just ignored the faux alpha tard whatever the fu(k, and then carried on (while proving myself friend not foe) I found the guys at rollo’s were quite nice and we had good conversation very reminiscent of the in-depth banter once had at j4g. So maybe I am wrong but I don’t think man-friendly rp savvy commenters aren’t welcome there, but it is most definitely not for the thin skinned or feint of heart. Neither of which btw I would consider you. Just ignore any flame thrown your way initially and power on. Old friends are there and while none white knighted (which I did not want or expect bc it would have only made matters more polarized) I knew they had my back just the same. As they would yours.
These conversations are not only worth having, I believe them to be absolutely essential. And a few savvy chicks sprinkled in only adds to that, IMHO. So often I see guys will be trying to understand chick behavior and getting it but not quite and as a girl I can see instantly “well no, she’s actually thinking xyz” and I believe there is value in that. Messy as it can be (remember path 1 vs/2???) I think (hope) you and me participating adds valuable data to the rp analysis, not detracts or intentionally obscures like non rp friendly/troll female participants might.
“I knew they had my back just the same. As they would yours.”
But I don’t want anyone to have my back. The only thing that would do is put them in a position of white knighting and pointless ridicule.
There was one poster on a thread here a while back who stood up to one of the offenders (not for me, I wasn’t posting then…can’t remember the name) well, he isn’t posting anymore.
One poster in particular (who seems to be in a better mood lately, perhaps he goes through manic cycles…he should have seven different aliases for his different personalities, kind of like the seven dwarves ‘grumpy’, ‘toxic’, ‘compost’, ‘tard’, ‘happy’, ‘semi-reasonable’, and ‘insipid’) has chased away many many good (male) posters. It’s not worth the frustration to try to have a conversation when you’re getting hit by rotten eggs on all sides…it’s almost equally frustrating to watch it happen to others.
ADBG mentioned he was trying to start a family. I was the only person who responded with a cyber highfive. No one else gave enough of a fuck to even acknowledge what he said. Then I offer a word of encouragement and it’s jumped on as “all about meeeee..” solipsism.
I wasn’t refuting any points, just a statement of encouragement. The same idiot who lampoons me goes on share for a hundred lines about trying to get sloppy 50ths with some person he can’t stand to hold a conversation with.
Gah. Enough already. Going to write something uplifting and fictitious now….
@ Liz I was just catching up at Rollo’s, agreed that was unfair and unearned. I think that insanity bytes gal had them stirred up. She’s not nice. 😦
Liz, the reason men are leery of so called red pill girls commenting is they very quickly take over whatever forum their in and make it about themselves. Whether or not that’s the intention that’s what happens if the red pill girls are given free reign.
Thanks for your response, Jew613.
I understand and they’re right to be wary.
@jew613 welcome! Valid point re red pill women hijacking threads. I have been guilty of that myself. Thanks for pointing that out.
“Anyway like I said I think I have found him and he’s one of the smartest, upstanding character, accomplished men I have ever met. And a red pill blogger. I would be lucky to be his wife, something he’s btw asking me to consider after watching me and my rp awakening for nearly two years. Life is funny like that. Cheers!”
Now I am absolutely going to die of curiosity. I may seriously die. Don’t let me die, please….PLLEEEEEZZ. Just make someone up if you don’t want to tell me.
I’m Italian, I’ll totally forgive prevarication and bullshit, I just can’t forgive a tease.
😛
BTW, congrats Bloom and good luck Bloom that is awesome! 🙂
” “Anyway like I said I think I have found him and he’s one of the smartest, upstanding character, accomplished men I have ever met. And a red pill blogger. I would be lucky to be his wife, something he’s btw asking me to consider after watching me and my rp awakening for nearly two years. Life is funny like that. Cheers!” ”
It is Miss Attempts……….
Can we play 20 questions? 😀
Liz,
I think that she’ll tell when she is secure.
Redpillgirlnotes,
I always knew that you had them eating out of your hand..
Now now once he says I can, then I will tell. I don’t want to jinx anything. 😉
No it is not missattempts but I sure hope he’s ok and still kicking it. I do worry not to see him.
I can say it was after my engagement fell apart that he revealed his interest. He lives far away but has visited twice and we get on in person as well as online. Pretty good stuff. Squee!!! 😀
That’s so great Bloom! 🙂
I totally understand. I don’t want you to reveal anything until he gives you the okay either.
(I’ll just keep on pacing nervously around the room until you finally tell me) 😛
That is SO SQUEE!!! (jumping up and down squeeling with delight)
Okay, that burned off some nervous energy. Whew! 🙂
Is it Tarnished Sophia. After all she is a man inside.
No, it’s not tarnished Sophia, lol.
Mr Froth is funny. 🙂
The man o sphere is you know for men so there are a lot of places ladies are not particularly welcome. Women bring their own agenda an men are right to be suspicious of women commentators
Rollo’s pulls in a lot of dudes who are still in the psychological 1st.aide stage and women are particularly unwelcome to them. As welcome as you two darlings are at my place that is not so everywhere and that’s the way it should be
In defense of Rollo Tomassi and his blog commenters, it’s a lot worse on other sites like CH. Probably because Rollo’s posts are so long and well thought out, it tends to discourage more of the trolls and bitter pill swallowers that plague the Manosphere.
This is one example where Reddit is far more helpful. With the up/down voting and attempt at posting standards, forums like /r/theredpill and /r/MGTOW are far less burdensome to read. Trolls tend to get down voted into obscurity.
I like the phrase “Enough women are like that.” Cuts down on the reflexive refutation by counter example.
Also, what Fuzzy said is very true. EWALT is what affects on the ground planning. When EWALT, men have to act as if AWALT.
So… what exactly is this so-called “female imperative”? No offense to the author, but there really is not anything you can say 100% of women do or a personality trait 100% of women have. I just learned what “EWALT” means today, but even that makes a lot more sense than “AWALT” and “AMALT”. Women and men are individuals, after all. What I want out of life may be entirely opposite from what you want and this would mean we necessarily have different imperatives despite the fact we are of the same gender.