There’s a red pill concept called the shit test, or fitness test if you prefer, which is when women pick fights with their men in an attempt to see if he will push back on her. If he does, she will feel satisfied that he is a fit protector, if he caves she will lose trust that if push came to shove he would defend her. Men who are unaware of this dynamic often cave in an attempt to make her happy, which actually does the opposite and leads to further shit testing. Unchecked, it can really get out of hand, and she turns into a harpy, unhaaaaapy, wench. It’s a very backward thing, and very destructive to a relationship. Just don’t. Or perhaps more realistically bc it’s just something women seem to do, at least be aware of this and do your best not to. It is a sure fire way to destroy your own happiness and your family. Build your man up, don’t tear him down.
This post is dedicated to a gal who has done this so much and so often I can hardly stand listening to it anymore. I can only imagine how her husband feels. Don’t be like her. Just don’t.
Let those who have ears hear.
Notes From a Red Pill Girl 
You’re so cute, like King Canute…ordering the tide to stop.
Women can’t help 5h1t-testing. Anytime they think about fakking some man, the 5h1t-test is automatic–it’s created by the amygdala. Generally the woman doesn’t even realize what she’s doing. Mrs. Gamer does it just like all women.
The thing is, both men and women need to see a mating 5h1t-test as play. Women and alphas typically “just get it”. Betas don’t usually understand this.
There is a variety of sh1t-test that occurs when a woman is thinking about dropping a man or when he has been acting beta. A woman has more awareness of what’s going on in her mind in those situations and maybe that’s what you’re aiming at inhibiting.
Women need to “take out the trash” (i.e., not hold grudges or remember past bad behavior by the man) in order to inhibit relationship-destructive 5h1t-tests.
Lol gamer, you are probably right!
Can you explain the push pull thing a bit more? That’s interesting.
The gal I am thinking of, sahm, married 10 years to a guy who took her and her two thug spawn offspring in when she was a teen mom living in welfare apartments. They have two kids together as well. She’s constantly fighting with him, always threatening divorce. Alpha widow I suppose. Thing is the first two kid’s dad has 18 known offspring with who knows how many women, has never sent her a dime. Meanwhile the man who does take care of her and her kids, she treats like crap. I don’t get it. I just don’t. It’s very distressing to watch.
I know her bc she sometimes works for me. I have been trying to counsel her to knock it off for 2 plus years. No avail. I am at a total loss of how to help.
The only thing that has ever helped was when in sheer frustration I told her, “you’re right. Get a full time job, put the kids in daycare, do it on your own.” That actually got her to stop! 🙂
Not sure what part you see as push pull.
Bloom, if she is threatening divorce, then his only option that works is Dread. He must obtain options or she will eventually leave him. She holds all the power and he is a chump. Talk to him if you can. He likely won’t believe any of this, but maybe if you can explain it how a woman sees things. His woman sees him as a low value chump and he needs options to raise his SMV and get his woman hot for him. That won’t stop the drama, of course, but maybe the woman will see him as her best option.
When a woman shit tests me I say or do something that makes her laugh. She realizes I’m not falling for it. We then fire ahead and play tiddly winks or… whatever else we were going to do.
Gamer very true, he needs some red pill awareness. I can point the way but I think men will have to counsel him there. She definetly has zero respect or regard for him, and like you say he needs to up his value in her eyes.
By push pull I meant can you explain how it’s part of the mating thing?
@cill, that’s the way! 🙂
Think of squirrels grappling. A female tries to grapple a male and take him down–a 5h1t test. Similar with humans. A man can respond with script-flipping humor–an attempt at reversal. He can respond with indifference–shake off the attempt and thereby up his value. Naturals typically do the latter. PUAs do the former.
PUAs outplay women with their skill and naturals wear out the female until she wants to submit because she’s too exhausted. Just standard mating. I don’t consider it to be actual seduction.
I’ve been about the avoiding women game so much that I don’t often use humorous replies. More typically I just agree and smile confidently, implying “So what?” I don’t even amplify. Don’t need to with my subcomms.
The problem is less that women throw shit tests and more that men are taught to take women seriousl, like rational adults.
Train men to interact with women like they would a semi child and things would work much better
Normally I treat women as rational and accountable. A true red piller would see this as a vice, not a virtue, but I just treat it as a way to maintain amused mastery. However when a woman tries to shit test me, I just remember the lines from the Jack Nickolson/Helen Hunt movie, “As Good As It Gets”,
Receptionist: How do you write women so well?
Melvin Udall: I think of a man, and I take away reason and accountability.
The fitness test is a woman’s evolutionary biological moment of testing her mate. The act is neither reasonable nor accountable, because it comes from the lizard brain — it’s an survival instinct mechanism.
If a test event comes from a random moment of doubt, I’m willing to humor it and respond in some gamey way. If I see a pattern of tests, it is time to hard next her. You can’t negotiate with a lizard brain, and if her forebrain is not in control most of the time, then she is a liability in my life. Better to be a MGTOW then have somebody I think I trust go and betray me.
Add these to the list of what to tell your helper: Work full time, kids in day care, live at a lower standard of living, and have NO dating prospects.
As for tests, knowing that they are contrived so that they’re lose-lose and that reason and compassion will steer you wrong, I’d say walk away.
I would think twice before letting your shit-testing tattooed single mom with mixed race children employee near the cash box. Just a thought.
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I’ve had a few good spells with women, from 1-15 years in duration. No shit tests.
With three of them, no shit tests ever.
I will say, the third one just shit-tests her husband. It would be hard to walk away from someone such as she, but there are only 7 deadly sins, and not doing so is one of them. (Can we still use English pronouns here, or is that presumptively patriarchal?)
Everyone else: shit testing on the first date. (Most of them are still single.) The ones who shit test, however, are the ones who throw their panties out the window, on the first date. Gee. Complicated stuff. What kind of human male locks down an angry woman who behaves in this angry/fuck-me-now manner? Well, most human males, I guess.
There’s an Old Crow in my house, must close.
All good points. Yes hard nexting a gal who can’t keep her lizard brain mostly in check is a good idea. No matter how cute a gal is, that has got to wear thin. And then the guy becomes indifferent/withdrawn because of the constant harping, which usually in turn triggers more harping. A bad death spiral to get into for sure. I think women were expected to respect men at one time, and her own man’s authority. Now that check and balance is gone, as far as society expects. A woman can choose to show respect and choose to love her man and be a helper to him. It’s all in the Book, if anyone would read it. Men and women can be great complements to each other. I do see it occasionally, and when I do I celebrate it and strive myself to be that, choose that. Why not choose happiness and contentment? Doesn’t it just make sense?
Thanks for the thoughts everyone, I am at my wits end with this gal. Yeesh. But I get the feeling I am the only one telling her NOT to leave. So for that reason I will not stop.
I think I made her mad when I told her in tesponse to her “I’m unhaaaaapy” diatribe to read her wedding vows every morning for 30 days! Lol. But it’s true!
Cheers BV! TGIF!
This post started me thinking on a tangent. Men test one another, too.
One man who’s hostile to me socially runs hostile dominance tests on occasion.
An in-law I met at a wedding ran a friendly dominance test on me–he pinched my neck and I quickly moved my hand to his neck, then he stopped. We were both smiling, lasering each other, and amused. Just male playfulness.
At the wedding reception, my own brother came over to my table and sat in my place while I was up dancing, and ate some of my food. Pig. Lol. Another dominance test. Complaining would have been weak. He didn’t eat much food. The test was whether I would complain. It was my table and I was hosting my brother. He likely didn’t have time to eat much because he was moving around so much. And he just wanted to mess with me. This is how my brother shows affection.
AMOG-testing; Alpha Male of Group.
Update:
Mike versus whippersnapper spar match has been postponed until next week.
Too much going on this weekend. 🙂
I think he might need a good week to recover from this weekend, too….he got a room at the base for two nights, and last time I saw him he (along with everyone else) was pretty lit.
Bloom, been thinking some more about the dud husband. He needs options. Preselection. However, he thinks that his wife will get mad if he has options. Sure she will, but he shouldn’t care. He needs an amused mastery frame of mind. If When she gets mad and yells, he shouldn’t engage her in argument or defend himself–he should just smile like he would at a silly child.
You may be able to help with the preselection and help wise the husband up. Flirt with him when his wife is around and explain about amused mastery and about women being attracted to a man who has options. Explain that you are trying to help him in his situation with his wife and explain that if he starts wearing the pants his wife will be more attracted to him.
Flirt with the dud husband by asking if he has lost weight and been hitting the gym as you briefly touch a bicep. That should suggest a course of action for him.
Gamer interesting! I did ask her to send me his number so I could send him some links to sites that might help. I don’t see him much so I am not sure I could get a chance to do what you suggest but I can only imagine! Lol.
I had a friend who frivorced her husband a few years back. She had been my running partner. It was a weird situation because (I’ve probably mentioned this before, perhaps tangentially) her husband was:
1) Good looking
2) Absolutely brilliant
3) funny, engaging, ect
also…well, really really wealthy.
I thought she and I had everything in common (even sons) before our last run together, when she fessed up that she was divorcing. They were neighbors so I started talking to the husband and it turns out she left him for a guy named “Pastor Freddie” (cult leader, looked kind of like a hobbit, three kids of his own…left his wife for her).
Well, her husband and I saw each other a couple of times socially (since our kids were friends, and we had a few events together). She caught wind of this and about lost her mind. She said it was “inappropriate” for us to socialize together. I thought that was really funny. Gamer is probably onto something…if I’d started hanging out more at their house earlier I could have probably saved that marriage.
He’s better off now anyway…he’s remarried to a more compatible person who values him.
Invite the couple to one of your shindigs.
Now there’s an idea!
@ Liz wow! What a dumb broad, what was she thinking? My frivorced friend Red, his ex did similar, the guy she’s w now looks like some creepy cult leader, and I guess he’s not very nice at all. Thing is she too is now seeming to get jealous that her ex and I are friends, it totally spins her out. Weird. I could not understand why she’s acting like I broke up her marriage or something but maybe this is why? Thing is as much as I would love to see a family reconcile like your friend I could never recommend he try to patch it up w such a witch! She and I were both at an event yesterday and I could tell she was spun up. I just happened to be looking my best too, oops! Her new man was there and had I been ebul I would have flirted w him but I didn’t.
she left him for a guy named “Pastor Freddie” (cult leader, looked kind of like a hobbit, three kids of his own…left his wife for her).
Pastor Freddie. Maybe an ex-junkie or a biker?
You sometimes see LC broads leaving the good life with UMC men because they miss the trashy beatings.
if I’d started *hanging out more* at their house earlier I could have probably saved that marriage.
Well endowed? I need to see proof.
New business idea. Preselection, Inc. Mission: Save marriages where the wife has lost attraction.
Our team of pharmacists of love dispenses red pills to beta husbands and our Preselection Squads of nymphs flirt with those chump husbands.
Redpillgirlnotes,
Let Red find his own girl. I am thinking about how Jane the Witch could make your life a misery because she made a mess of hers.
Now, as for frivorcee wannabe, what about bringing in a third, unknown, party to play “clingy” with devoted hubby?
Is that “ebul”enough?
@ fuzzie indeed, Reid’s ex seems to have a personality disorder of some sort and I for sure don’t want that directed my way. She’s scary.
Third party, I like that idea! I think my doing it would be too awkward. Humm, who do I know that could help w that…. Hummm.
“Well endowed? I need to see proof.”
I don’t think anything on me “hangs”, Gamer.
Thank goodness. 😛
Are you taking supplements to keep the connective tissue healthy and minimize sag? Serious question.
I still need to see proof of conical shape.
I…don’t know. I don’t have any stretch marks either.
I’d like to say it was clean living but I’d be a liar. I do take vitamins though.
Not showing proof. You’ll just have to take my word for it. Or don’t. 🙂
…probably has something to do with NOT being endowed like Kate Upton. 🙂
Small can be fun. My college gf had AAA’s and she was a blast. Very girlie-girl. She told her sister that she was surprised that her small breasts could be so…titillating.
Just between us girls…get brassieres that give you adequate support to help mitigate sag as you age. Don’t go bra-less at home, either.