What do men want in a woman? You might be surprised!
For the past two years I have been listening to men talk about what they want from women via red pill message boards and it basically boils down to they want them to look pretty, be feminine (long hair, dresses, jewelry, grace, poise, etc.) not be overweight (but not rail thin either, just proportionate), have some domestic skills (interest in nesting and cooking) and to have a pleasant personality. Oh and of course to be passionate about him!
It’s actually pretty simple. Do the above and you’ll be ahead of 80 percent of your peers.
Yep.
Apparently they prefer the above over your education, career, and accomplishments. (That’s what women are interested in about men, not the other way around.)
Maybe it’s “sexist” but they are the opposite sex. And they are not going to change, no matter what it says in Cosmo.
Let those who have ears hear.
Notes From a Red Pill Girl 
Men really are very simple creatures. After spending the day slaying dragons and rescuing princesses in towers from monsters, we have three priorities upon arriving back to the castle; adult beverage, food, and sex. Anything that interferes with that goes on our short list to eliminate at best, tolerate at worst.
Damsels that don’t get that can learn to love the monster.
“adult beverage, food, and sex”
Kiwi blokes will go along with that. Booze, board, and bonk.
Do the above and you’ll be ahead of 80 percent of your peers.
Perhaps percentage higher it would be.
Yes I was thinking higher than 80 percent, too, mrs. Yoda! Sad that the obvious is being so overlooked.
And truly I did not get any of that myself prior to finding the red pill/manosphere. I cringe to think how many dates I sat there going on and on about my work, my education, etc. Duh!
I am glad to hear I translated what I heard correctly, see I have been listening! 🙂
Also, you guys would not believe the crap relationship advice women are getting via the main stream media! Totally the opposite of the above!
Although we justifiably complain about our current culture, I believe there are a few aspects that are better. One for example is that it is more optional to marry or not; for both men and women. Years ago it was quite a stigma to not marry, much more so for women. That stigma continues to exist to a smaller degree. Me attending church as a single man is a much different experience than a married man attending church with his family. I’m viewed as a potential wolf seeking to PUA the vulnerable churchian chicks.
Pretty, slender and pleasant are the main three human features I would want in a women if I were in the market. I prefer skinnier than most prefer. Intelligence I also like. I like a witty woman who can converse about a variety of worldly topics. Popping in my mind as an example is Tarnished. She is very intelligent and witty, but that is where any compatibility with her ends; although I do respect her.
Not being sloppy, cooking healthy food well, good hygiene, passionate about me, and of paramount importance would be having a very good relationship with my son as he would always come first in my heart.
Additionally, other physiological features come to mind that I won’t share in mixed company. Lalala
Her having money could be a plus or a minus, depending on her attitude about it and how that attitude affected us. Education and “accomplishments” the same as the having of money.
Since I mentioned hygiene above I’ll end this rant by stating, “Let those who have ears utilize q-tips at least once in a while”.
Lol Q tips! 🙂
As for what you had to say about women’s magazines, they have been getting away with it for decades. Hoe, I don’t know.
Yesterday, I read a post that summed it up. Men want full acceptance. Conditional doesn’t cut it. We”re not arm ornaments or status markers.
In the last thread, you did mention people encouraging you to be play the SIW . That’s not us here on this blog. They would have you suffer in lonliness to serve as inspiration? Forget that!
@ fuzzie I know, huh? Both are women a generation older than me. Both have secure lives thanks to (wait for it) their husband’s long years of working. Neither had children, both pretty much did whatever they wanted while their husbands built a solid financial base. But then they try to advise me to “do it alone” when they did not themselves? Thing is, both take full credit for their situations. When I pointed out, ummm, don’t you enjoy the lifestyle and security you have bc of your husband? They were truly speechless!
That could be a whole other post. How the women a generation ahead of mine changed the rules, then sent the following generations in w a bad game plan. Fee thanks! It’s the blue pill version for girls, feminism. The pretty littleie. Guess what? I prefer to seek the same safety and security they have…marriage!
Gosh they spin me up and how. Humph!
Unconditional love? Might as well place your money on the Easter Bunny
According to Rollo that’s how guy love, girls love differently Fuzzie. It’s all a product of thousands of years (millions?) of evolution, or for believers part of the design.
Oh and yes these two ladies are daft. They and their generation should be counseling mine and future to find a good husband and cling to him like life itself! Crazy!
What do men want? All the HB8’s and above, bent over or on their knees alternatingly
Goodness Ton! You are in a mood. Cheers!
Redpillgirlnotes,
So, these two have skated through life on their husbands’s backs? I have to wonder if there is any point in arguing with them?
LOL
As for what you had to say about women’s magazines, they have been getting away with it for decades. Hoe, I don’t know
Perhaps know you do.
Following given advice not so hard it is.
Why women resist they do?
“Men want full acceptance. Conditional doesn’t cut it.”
Disagreeing: Rather, all female love for a man is performance-based. Deal with it or get crushed. This was the most difficult insight for me to confront and accept, in my RP transition.
Bloom’s anecdote about the SAH-non-Moms proselytizing for a Ms. Magazine lifestyle while enjoying their Ozzie and Harriet (sans fils) retired-at-25 lifestyle: Seems fairly typical of the doublespeak women practice in the SMP. Men don’t bother, after a few experiences, attempting discussion with women about these matters; I hadn’t considered that it’s equally futile between women. The older ladies’ complete absence of self-awareness, logic, and abstract thinking ability is astonishing. It’s also universal.
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I recently had a birthday and a woman friend sent me two dozen red roses, flown in from South America. We haven’t seen each other in quite a while, owing to her being, uh, quite married. (I had taken the extreme step of deleting all her pictures and contact info, the harder to drunk-text her.) Quite a surprise, and an extravagant gesture in a place where no one is extravagant. I was touched.
So I packed up the Hibachi, some ribeyes, and drove the 70 miles to a hidden-away lake on state ground were we used to have picnics etc. The purpose was to say thanks, and say good-bye, forever. No more gifts, no more “just thought I’d stop by to catch up,” no more running around in mind or body. I have to steer clear for good.
Well. I was explaining to her why she had flipped switches in me that been oscar-fox-fox for at least 10 years, and before that, decades. And I was telling her how she represented and offered things that, simply, were what I desire in a woman. (See: I’m not just babbling but commenting in the OP.)
So in the middle of this unpleasant experience I’m telling her what I want in a woman and she’s crying and the whole business is like a break-up scene in young adult fiction. Fortunately she stops crying because … she wants to argue! She wants to argue that all women treat men the way I said she treated me, none of her friends would ever divorce their husbands (this is a married woman who wants to divorce and marry me telling me this), feminism is good for women AND men, blah blah blah.
I just laughed and said, “I guess you date more women than I do, then. New subject. Can we smoke that joint now?”
Fortunately she stops crying because … she wants to argue! She wants to argue that all women treat men the way I said she treated me, none of her friends would ever divorce their husbands (this is a married woman who wants to divorce and marry me telling me this), feminism is good for women AND men, blah blah blah.
The hamster strong in this one it is.
“Super-hero” strong it would be
I think that I may have derailed the thread. The reference that I made to conditional had to do with seeing a recent Captain Capitalism post. While he was in college, and working silly hours , not getting sleep, he was approached by a girl. She wanted to be his girlfriend. He killed it before it even got started, knowing she would want it to be platonic.
It is past the point now where I don’t want to hear any more.
Nice one BV. Well played
Recent birthday…
Hm. Does that mean you are a Virgo, BV?
That’s about the last zodiac sign I would have guessed. 😛
Okay, Lizzie, Virgo to the max. Which sign did you think I am? (I imagine it’s my fated nemesis, but we’ll see.)
Yeah, maybe, Ton. But I haven’t smoked a joint in 30 years, and didn’t realize the residue lingers for up to 3 months. Could be a problem.
I will say, weed is a better way to get five hours of sleep than anything I’m aware of.
I took you for either a Leo, or an Aries, BV. 🙂
I’ve only smoked weed once. A tech geek (I say that affectionately) brought out is supply when I had a ‘hippie theme’ party at the house a couple of years back. I have a hookah, and he found my strawberry/papaya…or whatever flavored tobacco wasn’t cutting it.
Of course, Mike had to stay far far away from the fumes. This was right after I quit my last nursing job so I didn’t have to worry about a surprise piss test.
Totally Virgo. My downfall are the Pisces. I stay away from them now.
I’ll review Aries and Leo. I don’t think I’ve ever dated one.
What sign are you, Liz? I am Capricorn.
I’m a Leo, Mike is Aries. 🙂
It is a good list, but these things don’t by themselves automatically create that magical feeling of special connection called “falling in love.” I’m thinking of two women I knew, both of whom were very attractive and had all the good attributes you describe. One of them I’m sure would have married me if I’d asked her, and the other, 70% likely would have. But I didn’t, because though I liked them and lusted for them, the spark wasn’t there.
Yet in retrospect, if an arranged marriage had been set up between me and either one of these women, things would have probably worked out very well. Maybe better than with the one I am with, certainly less conflict.
What do people here think?…is “falling in love” necessary/important, or is it overrated?
I’m a Leo
Small for a lion you are
The camera takes off a few years and pounds, Yoda. 😛
“Falling in love?” I’m not sure anymore what the means, or if it is even meaningful for a long term relationship.
I’m a bigger fan of “falling deeply in like”. It is more of a long tail process, but probably has more durability in a long term relationship.. The arranged marriages are probably a good example of falling deeply in like if the two are lucky enough to be set up by the community to be mutually likable people.
Yoda and Liz,
That exchange made me feel better!
Oh yeah! Glad we made you smile, Fuzzie. 😀
Who wears a froggie helmet, mittens, and believes in falling in love?
This cat! (points to self with mittens) 🙂
I have no issues with falling _in_ love, and count me as a fan as well. It’s the falling _out_ of love that sucks so bad.
I’m at best an average cook and housekeeper. Heck, I’ll often hire folks to assist me with that stuff.
The main thing I do is let my husband give my vagina a 1-2 workout when he gets home from work.
It beats having to get a job myself!
Lol Sally! I like how you think! 🙂
I would agree falling in like is a must have. Deep true love is not possible without true like and total acceptance of the person just as they are. And if there is true like, why would anyone ever leave that?
Hello!
I’ve been interested in “the red pill” for a while. Specifically, I’ve been worrying about appearance for a long time, especially since I’m engaged. I kind of have a bad situation here–I’m obese. A whale. I’m short, and I’m catching up to the weight loss game late. After coming out of being brainwashed by SJW, I have learned the lies, and I know that I’m unattractive. My love wants me to stay as I am, but I don’t want to. I want to become more feminine. He supports feminism, but I really wish he wouldn’t. I don’t know what to do, because women are supposed to be ladylike and I’m still learning how to control myself and not lash out so much. Growing up in a dysfunctional, topsy turvy African American household is toxic for your femininity. I have been misled my entire life…and, I’m only eighteen.
I also do not know what to do when it comes to “cleaning up well”. I’ve never dressed right. Most of my life, I was really quiet and plain. At one brief point in time, I dressed trashy, thinking it was “girly”. Now I dress frumpy. I’ve felt convicted to cover up more, and I see these pretty pieces, but they never work because I’m apple shaped. Notice how the most feminine outfits feature defined waists. I’m considering corset training during and after losing 60-70 pounds.
(If you think that it’s dangerous, it isn’t if done properly).
I don’t know how to style my hair, do my eyebrows or anything like that. I don’t have a mother anymore. She was an extremely beautiful and feminine person (2 walls full of shoes!) but I always shyed away from extreme femininity. I was always writing, reading or doing something else.
What I’m trying to say is…I’m at a loss here. What can I do? I don’t want to be an overweight housewife. My husband could cheat on me this way.
You might want to consider the advice that the Manosphere gives to its men readership. When men swallow the red pill and realize that society has misled us, we are not up to standard to win over women, and we are our own worst enemy, then the advice we receive is to “man up!” That means acknowledging our strengths and weaknesses and taking massive action to improve the strengths and minimize the weaknesses. We men get absolutely no sympathy from each other for self pity.
The first step is to swallow the red pill and not spit it out. If you go back to blue pill thinking and lifestyle, you will lose all progress. Having said that, starting out red pill is very painful, as you have found out, but very necessary. Embrace the pain, work through it, and begin a path of self improvement.
A good woman acquaintance of mine has already lost 60 – 80 pounds and has that much more to go. To take massive action she became a personal trainer. After her clients suspend their disbelief that she could be a personal trainer, she goes to train them to the point that even grown men cry, but she gets results with them. She is still working vigorously to eliminate the remaining excess weight through lifting and diet. Even as a heavy girl, she using what her momma gave her and getting out there and dating. I am sure as she loses more weight she will get better prospects.
Use the Halo Effect (http://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2012/03/12/148330045/gain-together-lose-together-the-weight-loss-halo-effect) to your advantage to get the support you need. This is the time to seek out other red pill people as part of your new support team. You have already reached out here in the virtual world, now do the same in your physical world.
Lavender lace welcome! I agree wholeheartedly w Eccentric. Do not shy away from what you know is the truth. You will be happier and feel better and your life will be better for yourself, your spouse, and your future children by embracing sanity and forgetting/unlearning all that sjw/siw/feminazi nonsense. And look — you are 18! What a gift to realize this now and not when you are in your 40s like me. I am sorry to hear your mother is gone. But she’s not gone as long as you have her in your memories and somehow I believe the ones we have lost are never gone, they are still cheering us on. I think it’s fabulous you are awakening to the red pill. It’s not always easy but I know how much it has taught me, and how much better off my life is for it. Keep up the good work and don’t be a stranger! 🙂
Excuse me for the late reply, sir and madam. I just wanted to say thank you for responding to my comment, and I appreciate it very much. It has been very difficult to swallow this red pill, but when I hear about how…happy it makes other women, it encourages me fully.
I have quite a few female friends who have seemed to be raised to be on realism their entire lives. Sadly, I did not listen to what they had to say in the past, but now I am willing to get closer to them and listen to what they have to say. I have been frequenting Return of Kings, and I will check out the Manosphere in a little bit. Thank you for the information on the Halo Effect as well. I appreciate both of your well-thought, intricate replies, and as someone very new to this, I am grateful .
I promise that I will frequent this blog more often!