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Something I have been pondering lately is what many women don’t see.
To be fair, I didn’t see it myself until running across the manosphere. Now I can’t help but see it everywhere I go.
Men. Doing the hard work that keeps it all going. Men hustling garbage cans from the curb to the truck. Men doing construction in the wet and the cold. Men pumping sewage. Men covered in oil and grime. Men climbing electrical and telephone poles in the middle of storms. Men doing jobs even the most liberated woman doesn’t and wouldn’t even want to do.
We hear so much about male privilege but we rarely hear about this other side, how many more men do the crap jobs, the hard jobs, the ugly jobs, the gory jobs, the dangerous jobs, the boring jobs, the non-glory jobs, the jobs that keep the lights on, the roads paved, and the rats and maggots and filth of living at bay than ever hold the title of CEO.
Then there are the deadly jobs. Men running into buildings that are collapsing and on fire. Men rescuing hikers stuck on a mountain in a blizzard. Men getting dropped out of helicopters in the most dangerous places on earth.
Yes, there are privileges associated with being a man but there has also always been this other side, the side most women don’t see. The things women don’t have to see, thanks to men.
Women don’t see their own privilege. That nobody is demanding women take these roles, that quotas be filled with an equal number of women garbage collectors, for example. Men have never asked that of women, even of women who at the same time are demanding equality.
So before you say men have it so good, so much better, open your eyes, sisters. Check your own privilege. And start noticing all the things that men do so you and I don’t have to. Are you really so sure you’d want that to change?
Let those who have ears hear.
Notes From a Red Pill Girl 
Props.
Correct, you are. Want a perfect example of this kind of blindness? Here is a Hillary quote that passed unchallenged in the MSM:
“Women have always been the primary victims of war. Women lose their husbands, their fathers, their sons in combat. Women often have to flee from the only homes they have ever known. Women are often the refugees from conflict and sometimes, more frequently in today’s warfare, victims. Women are often left with the responsibility, alone, of raising the children.” -Hillary Rodham Clinton
Except of course that the women are still alive. And the Men are dead. Which would seem to me worse. But what do I know. I’m just a Man.
Well said Dash! I wish more people would stop to critically think when they hear quotes like that.
What an insult to the American MEN who are actually, you know, in combat.
And further, is she saying that she has more empathy for the women on the other side of the conflict than she has for the MEN fighting on her side? Wow. Not that I don’t have empathy for refugees and folks caught up in wars they have no control over, but it seems like that’s on their men’s heads, not ours. Unbelievable. (Smacks forehead!)
You really should speak for yourself. Yes, it is shameful that you’ve been so blind, but not every woman is like you. Thank heavens.
Human, thank you for adding that and I am glad this concept is not a foreign one to you. Would you say most women already get this idea, and that I was in the minority?
Don’t.feed.the troll. Banish her.from the herd to go live under a bridge with the rest of the mentally unstable
You really should speak for yourself. Yes, it is shameful that you’ve been so blind, but not every woman is like you. Thank heavens.
My sentiments on “human” the above are.
Now off to make a sammich for Yoda I am.
Headline from 1916 this is,
“British Launch Offensive in Somme — Women Hit Hardest”
I think it would be interesting to see a woman doing what Mike Rowe does on Dirty Jobs.
I have to think they do know but, choose not to acknowledge it. Our troll does give us a glimpse into the workings of a feminist mind. They hate men. They know this. It is their due for being superior.
Whenever I hear that quote from Hillary, my blood boils. Had she said that in the wake of the War Between the States, she would have been ridden out of town on a rail, fully deserving it, and by war widows.
Fuzzie she would have been cheered by those widows
The selfcentered nature of women practically demands it, and I have not yet meet the widow who hasn’t said “what will.happen to me” or some version of it
Again, feature, not bug. This behavior shows how dependent women are on men, and that they understand it an instinctual level.
What makes feminism such an effective weapon is how it perfectly manipulates what is booth good and bad in women
Isn’t there a catapult in Mordor that you ought to be tending?
Reblogged this on the view through your eyes.
Kind of flip side of “apex fallacy” coin this is.
https://spawnyspace.wordpress.com/2015/01/25/red-pill-classroom-apex-fallacy/
Knocked it out of the park again RPG.
Thanks suburbanmanlife! 🙂
I see your point, Ton. And, yes, feminism derivesits power by appealing to the frars of women. Somehow, I have more faith in 19th century women. If anything, because of the absence of feminism, they had more respect for their husbands as human beings.
When we fight for feminism, we do not fight only for the cushy, white collard ‘rights’. When we say we want equal rights, we do not flinch at a woman doing the dirty, the gory or the dangerous work. We whole heartedly support it. We do ‘see’ the men doing these jobs, but we also see women losing jobs simply because of their sex. When we fight for one we are not rejecting the other. This part of feminism is often forgotten or overlooked, we want equality, with the good and the not so good. It is the core idea of feminism.
Bloom,
It looks as if they have found you. I am beginning to come to an understanding. It’s not so much the welfare of women they want to promote butm the denigration of men.
Leah, if you believe that, I have some scrap metal in Pairs I’d to sell you
“We whole heartedly support it. We do ‘see’ the men doing these jobs, but we also see women losing jobs simply because of their sex. When we fight for one we are not rejecting the other.”
Do you see that women can’t perform all jobs as well as a man can? And in such cases, should women still be hired to perform those jobs?
Women are not rejected from jobs that are the “dirtiest” and most dangerous because of their sex, they are rejected because they are weaker, more risk adverse, more prone to injury and therefore far less able to perform those jobs.
Placing women in those positions then shifts the burden the remaining men and takes away resources from them, which makes a dirty dangerous job dirtier and even more dangerous.
Egalitarianism Kills.
In times past road crews used to rotate men into “flag man job” they did.
Gave men an occasional day of rest it did
Then women hired they were.
Took flagman jobs they did.
Resented this guys did
Exactly so, Yoda.
” … but we also see women losing jobs simply because of their sex.”
And we have a winner: Dumbest counter-factual non-observation of the thread. Anyone who’s ever made payroll has horror stories about being falsely sued for sexual harassment and discriminatory termination. Women know they can’t be fired for behavior 10x worse than what gets a man the boot.
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I’ve spent the last two weeks running machinery and a grain hauler. There were a few women in the elevator line-up (perhaps 1/20) running their own grain semis. They did not look like SJWs. They did not look like characters in an Amy Schumer skit. It was intriguing.
One attends the country church I’ve started frequenting. Cleaned up I didn’t recognize her. More intrigue. Scandinavians don’t age like normal people.
(taps computer screen, trying to “like” BV’s post, nothing happening)
🙂
Sounds much better than a New York girl, BV. I’m cyber intrigued!
Seriously, I didn’t recognize her. This is an extremely conservative (Lutheran Missouri Synod) church and I’m a newbie so am attempting my best behavior. But the knockout walks up for communion in heals and form-fitting dress with hair done and makeup and I actually looked away because I somehow didn’t think I should get busted eye-fucking a congregant. Also she was carrying a toddler, so I just concluded my perverted, fervid speculations about flipping that dress up to be shoulder high.
Turns out the toddler is her grandson. Her brother-in-law is the guy I’ve been combining corn and beans with. I expect an invitation to a family dinner shortly — probably this weekend.
Before you get all dewy and romantic, Liz, she’s the one who went to work one morning and had the sheriff serve her husband the divorce papers, after 20-plus years. He said, “Oh, no. You’ve got the wrong address. We’re not getting divorced.” I’m sure this is the first, last and middle thought my buddy has — he’s just spent 30 years amassing $15mm worth of $11K/acre ground. He just never stops confessing his fears and frustrations to me.
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So my farmer friend is married to a woman who’s into sexual and emotional blackmail, but she too is built like a 30-year old with an Iowegian profile (i.e., when I speculate on sex with her, I say to myself, “You really shouldn’t fantasize about sex with someone who looks like your every female cousin). I am a major snob in these matters and I am not exaggerating. (Norwegians FTW.)
My buddy said that once his wife decided to cut off all her hair and they were meeting separately at a school function. They’d been married 25 years or so. He’s standing there asking someone if she’s seen his wife — and she’s within arms-length. Now that was some good juice for tormenting her man. Ya, that was a good one, you betcha.
But it’s semi-understandable. There are women out here who put on jeans and coveralls and help out. Then they get their hair done every week and apply makeup and put on stockings and heels. It’s like a twofer.
Ugh on the divorce. Ah, well.
We have a good friend (pilot) who is married to a 100 percent Scandinavian woman (proven. she took the saliva test first…the reason I thought it would be interesting to take). She’s very tall, blonde, and pretty with great skin. 44 and still gets carded. The other night I was at a painting class and the artist (also Vice Principal at my sons’ school) looked just like her. I would have guessed her age as 40, but her 30 year old daughter was there in the class.
“It’s like a twofer.”
Both a sport and a pastime. 🙂
Women know they can’t be fired for behavior 10x worse than what gets a man the boot.
This is so true in the large institution world. I wonder if women don’t see it, or that they pretend not to see it…
Farm Boy,
How can they not be aware of it?
Liz,
You are correct. Elegartarianism kills.
Bear video.
Conservative and Lutheran? I’d call bullshit if anyone but BV reported such a thing….. though allowing form fitting dresses and divorced women in it doesn’t strike me as conservative. Conservative by yankee standards?
Liz, can I get an invite to your art class?
Theologically conservative: sola scriptura. MS Lutherans split with what’s now called the Evangelical Lutheran Church of America over this emphasis on biblical literalness.
As usual there’s a lot of churchianity, which seems to be the unacknowledged requirement in most to keep the doors open. But fortunately no boyfriend-jesus soft rock hipvswaying bs.
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Women know that only men get busted for ‘sexual harassment’ in corporations. I had three senior female execs and they handled most of the threats sub Rosa. But 20 years ago a plaintiff s Atty got into our secretaries and we had three consecutive fabricated lawsuits.
Lord Almighty how I loathe that soft pop rock Jesus as my boyfriend stuff.
The ultimate mark of betahood is listening to that drivel
“Liz, can I get an invite to your art class?”
Hee hee, Ton. 😀
I’m a MS Lutheran.
VERY different from the other branch…as I found out when we started moving around. I too loath the “Rock a Jesus boyfriend” motif. Also improv dancing in the middle of the service, electric guitar, lazy sermons that make use of scenes from movies, and so forth.
Adorable video, Fuzzie! 🙂
When we were trying to find a church home in Virginia we went to one where every sermon (we went there for about five Sundays) would include a 15 minute section from a movie. And the sermon would be about the movie. 30 minutes of electric guitar “Jesus rock” would be thrown in.
One time, during the sermon right before a guitar song the pastor said, in a voice filled with disingenuity faux humble-braggin, “The first time I heard this next song I cried”.
Mike turned to me and whispered in my ear, “We are never coming back here again”.
That wasn’t an answer darling
I left church in the middle of a sermon. Fathers Day sermon
Haven’t been back either. My daughter is a glutton though and keeps trying to find a good church but the anti male theme always shows up
Well, I can’t fully answer your question Ton. I had to sign a non-disclosure agreement not to give out any information about when and where these “art classes” occur.
The numerous Swedish-model type girls are so expressive in their “art”. And shy. And…um really submissive and love southern badass warrior types so…well, it’s really for their own good that I signed that agreement. 😛
Liz, I recently read an interesting essay How to Pray, by Luther. It’s written in the form of a letter.
I’m all ears when a monk who likes beer, singing in alehouses, doing his wife, and espouses ‘if you sin, sin boldly’ — writes some theology.
My sister in laws grandfather was a dissident Lutheran pastor in Germany, imprisoned by the Nazis with Bonhoeffer. He survived, so the french put him in charge of a sector. Then the french imprisoned him for prosecuting a french soldier for rape. So he went to jail for both sides.
And it’s a figure drawing class too, right Liz? Students take turns posing nude? I LOVE that class! See you Wed! 😉
**Cough**
Yes, it’s also a figure drawing class.
But ixnay on the ednesayWay.
Can’t say the date either, Bloom, it’s part of our treasured bylaws!
But you’re new so I understand. Just a reminder. 😉
😛
BV, I should read up on my theology more. CS Lewis in particular.
Lewis, Tim Keller, Carse (The Silence of God, The Religious Case Against Belief), Wiman, Simone Weil, Bonhoeffer, Luther, Jonathan Edwards. These are the people I’ve been reading this year.
Wiman and Carse are skeptical believers and Bonhoeffer, of course, sought a religionless faith.
Art calss? This is beginning to sound interesting.
After what BV said upthread about lawsuits, an unscrupulous attorney could bring a company to its knees at the behest of an unscrupulopus competitor.
It has probably been done.
SFC Ton,
You left in the middle of a Father’s Day beat down sermon? Good!
Liz,
That video is best appreciatiated by mothers of sons. Stingray liked it too.
My daughter kept me from giving the pastor the one finger salute
OT but
Thought I’d put this one here:
Prostitution to pay off student loan debt
http://professorconfess.blogspot.kr/2015/11/prostitution-to-eliminate-student.html
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Yes, even those “cheap” community colleges bury students. CNN fails to ask a question about that, how it doesn’t seem to matter what kind of school, state, for-profit, or community college, victims end up stumbling out after a few years, deep in debt. We’re looking at schools in Michigan, Kentucky, and Nevada, and it doesn’t matter where, our higher education system is creating legions of victims.
(snip)
We’re told, from a very young age, that education is everything, that education is the path to riches, that no price is too great to pay for higher education. I’ve quoted a few Poo Bahs of higher education saying as much, when they’re not grunting about “leadership” as a means to increase growth.
(snip)
Now, don’t get me wrong, I’m not trying to sound elitist here, and it’s no business of mine how another person makes a living but…you don’t need a college degree to be a prostitute. Yes, there is a glut of sex-related courses for sale on our campuses, but such courses are not offered so that we can have better prostitutes. Those courses are offered because they sell well; they have minimal at best educational value, but our “leaders” don’t care about education, they care about sales growth.
These people aren’t going into higher education to become prostitutes…they’re going into prostitution because of higher education, and that’s the issue CNN has missed.
It isn’t simply that we’ve been lying to our children about the “unarguable value” of education to the point that our kids honestly believe sitting in any classroom for anything is worth any price, it’s that our higher education system is literally forcing people into prostitution…to improve their lives.
So, absolutely, I agree with CNN, kudos to the pimp for helping his prostitutes out. But maybe CNN could do a little investigative reporting and show just how predatory so many of our institutions of higher education have become? Even if our schools weren’t so predatory, how can one claim higher education is incredibly precious when the prostitutes of the United States not only have college degrees, but remain prostitutes because their degrees are worthless?
We’re told as taxpayers, that we need to fund higher education to improve our country. The result of that funding is a student loan and higher education system that is now creating prostitutes. If this isn’t a good enough reason to end the student loan scam, what would be?”
Liz,
You have your sequel right there!
In all seriousness, we don’t know where this is going to take us.
I love comparing salaries with the pompous education is everything crowd
“I love comparing salaries with the pompous education is everything crowd”
But you wouldn’t expect to have that conversation in a brothel!
(Liz, walking up to streetwalker: “Hey, do you have an advanced degree?”
Ho: “Sho do Honey! I’m a philosophy ho. Got my doctorate. They call me Philly and not ’cause I’m from Philadelphia!”)
When you are the Ton, the whole world is a brothel……
😀