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Sorry, I have been busy with real life endeavors as of late and have not had much chance to write, or even comment! But rest assured, I am still here and all is well!
I have an idea stewing in my head but it’s not quite complete, so perhaps for now perhaps you guys can share some ideas for topics you’d like to see me tackle and discuss them among yourselves? I’m all ears…
Have a GREAT weekend!
GoFigure I know those guys much better than you do, and our discussions go back a long way, so I don’t interpret them that same way. Two of them I am thinking of now were both faithful loving husbands who did all you describe and more only to be taken to the cleaners and betrayed in most brutal ways. Did that shape them? Of course it did. Perhaps as Ame describes they are yet to find a woman who does not do them like that? Maybe if they have never been loved like that, they cannot believe it’s possible? Many who come to the red pill have had rough experiences, a good thing to remember. Those two are both amazing guys, and I welcome them here. Even if they don’t always agree w me or me them. I’d trust either w my life! Believe it or not.
No worries Larry! I like your stories 🙂
Ame,
men being critical of other men when what they’re doing is not only working but working very well.
Men really have not changed that much over the decades, but women have. Not many women respect/appreciate what Larry does for his wife and the relationship they have.
In fact those types of women are so rare today, that men will refuse to believe Larry because there could not possible be a women like his wife.
This leads men in the sphere into lots of circular arguments. (NAWALT, AWALT and other topics).
RPG, can see this and started blogging to change that. (I think. Sorry if I put words in your mouth.)
GoFigure,
“In fact those types of women are so rare today, that men will refuse to believe Larry because there could not possible be a women like his wife.”
A man wants to provide, protect, be a hero and defender of his woman. Do you know when I know for a fact that I have done my job well as her husband? She is in the kitchen rattling pots and pans, singing her favorite Turkish pop hit song.
RPG,
GoFigure I know those guys much better than you do, and our discussions go back a long way, so I don’t interpret them that same way. Two of them I am thinking of now were both faithful loving husbands who did all you describe and more only to be taken to the cleaners and betrayed in most brutal ways. Did that shape them? Of course it did. Perhaps as Ame describes they are yet to find a woman who does not do them like that? Maybe if they have never been loved like that, they cannot believe it’s possible? Many who come to the red pill have had rough experiences, a good thing to remember. Those two are both amazing guys, and I welcome them here. Even if they don’t always agree w me or me them. I’d trust either w my life! Believe it or not.
I get this and I understand. I can even empathize (no I have not experienced this…………….yet. Is my day coming? Maybe).
They often paint with brush strokes that are a little to wide for my liking. And I will stand up for my wife (unless she fires me from that job).
Also, both had abusive and/or mentally ill mothers as well, which like Ame describes also shapes one’s worldview… We are all coming thru the lens of our experiences…
Yes Go Figure I understand re your wife.
My guy now loves me much as Larry describes. To say its new for me is an understatement. But it’s real and I am glad to have found him! 🙂 without the red pill, I am not sure I would have been ready for that. I may not have realized how rare and wonderful it truly is!
And he is red pill, btw.
Just so I am crystal clear with no misunderstanding whatsoever; would someone give me a concise and accurate definition of red pill?
In addition, I believe most men (including them) would love to love a woman like that, it’s often women who make that impossible. Many women have been raised to be hostile, dangerous, untrustworthy, and self centered. Sadly. I feel for men today. The pickings are slim…
Larry I am not sure there is an agreed upon single definition.
Here’s a good start: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_pill_and_blue_pill
Also I am on a spring break adventure w my kiddos so I can only check in a bit here and there, so if I drop off we are on an adventure 🙂 I’ll be around…
Sorry, RPG. I am not trying to cause problems. I really do understand all sides of this.
I like sharing my ideas, but if they don’t help anyone I can just read.
No worries Go Figure, just setting some backstory…
ok. I accept that definition
“embracing the sometimes painful truth of reality (red pill). The red pill would lead to …..into the real world, therefore living the “truth of reality” even though it is a harsher, more difficult life.”
Then in fact, by that definition, I have been red pill since 1969
Go figure it’s fine to share ideas, please just let others be themselves too. Those guys have taught me a lot by sharing their experiences…
So when I say my guy is red pill, that’s what I mean. I honestly don’t know if he “games” me or not. But bc of what I have already internalized hopefully there’s little need to. Dread, for example. He’s never ever said so, but I already know if I behaved like the typical woman, he’d be gone. There’s no need for explicit dread in our case. Some women, women who don’t recognize they have a good thing, maybe they need some dread to remind them. Can dread also be applied abusively and unfairly, yes it can. One must choose her man well to ensure he gets the differences, and be a good woman in return so he doesn’t have to dread her. She should ideally keep *herself* in line. If she can’t, and he has kids to protect drom foolishness, well some guys gotta do what they have to do (or try) to keep order. Nonabusively. If that’s not possible, he may need to actually walk and leave her to the consequences. Harsh? Yes. The world can be a harsh place, especially for fools who destroy good situations.
Just like a man can have a woman’s heart and lose it w bad behavior. It can go both ways. The manosphere focuses on the guy side of that, which outside the manosphere is woefully under discussed. Everyone’s heard of female victims. How many recognize their male counterpart? How much support is there for abused men? Shelters? Resources? None. No wonder men are angry.
RPG,
a gardening gal, she sounds like me! I have cattle panel arches in my garden:)
Suggestions on how to bend them?
The other night while out w friends, a guy tried to “game” me. He took a very dominant posture w me immediately, tried to order me to do his bidding, when I cheerfully but firmly refused him, he tried to demand my submission. I laughed at him. It doesn’t work like that. That is not “good game.” Game is about seduction, getting willing submission, not forced submission (which is not submission at all.) luckily my neighbor and male friend was there, when the guy wouldn’t stand down, I hopped into his lap, he played along as my “protector” and the creep buggered off! My gal friend was amazed I was able to diffuse all that without ever even directly addressing it. 😉 the creep guy did say several times, “Wow, you are different…you get it.” Yep, I do!
Go figure pound 4 t-posts (metal cattle fence type posts) into the ground then slip the squares onto the posts. Like this: https://bonnieplants.com/library/cattle-panels/
The other night while out w friends, a guy tried to “game” me. He took a very dominant posture w me immediately, tried to order me to do his bidding, when I cheerfully but firmly refused him, he tried to demand my submission. I laughed at him. It doesn’t work like that. That is not “good game.” Game is about seduction, getting willing submission, not forced submission (which is not submission at all.) luckily my neighbor and male friend was there, when the guy wouldn’t stand down, I hopped into his lap, he played along as my “protector” and the creep buggered off! My gal friend was amazed I was able to diffuse all that without ever even directly addressing it.😉 the creep guy did say several times, “Wow, you are different…you get it.” Yep, I do!
HaHaHaHaHa. Nice.
Hope you never come across a guy like that when you are on your own.
that was a very interesting comment RPG. I had not put a name to my equation before, to me it was merely factual; Certain Actions = Very Specific Outcomes. During our engagement I told my wife-to-be the details of my divorce. Of course she had many questions, and received unvarnished truthful answers. I made her a solemn promise at that time that if she was ever unfaithful in our marriage, even once, there was no turning back and no recourse but swift termination of marriage.
On the flip side, faithfulness, kindness and femininity from her was a guarantee I would never leave or forsake her, literally till death parts us (and even that is up for debate).
By tried to demand I mean this guy motioned to my feet, said he was going to rub them and I would like it. I cheerfully said, “no thanks!” He stayed it twice more then started to get frustrated, so that’s when I playfully jumped in the friend’s lap. It sent the message. Foot fetishes are weird. The guy mentioned he and his wife are swingers. Not my thing at all! anyway life is strange…and sometimes I wonder if mine is stranger than most? Lol
Go figure I have many times. I find humor is the best way to manage a guy like that. And to act clueless when I am anything but. I have diffused many such situations that way.
This happened in a crowed public place as well. I would never let a guy like that isolate me, bc agreed there may have been trouble then. He thinks he’s a Dom when he has no clue what that means. I feel for his wife… Or who knows, maybe she deserves him? She was off on a trip w another guy, maybe he was trying to “show her” by trying to game other gals? Who knows. Messed up for sure. And thankfully – not my problem!
“By tried to demand I mean this guy motioned to my feet, said he was going to rub them and I would like it. I cheerfully said, “no thanks!” He stayed it twice more then started to get frustrated,”
ok, I just find that behavior outright bizarre.
See Larry, you “dreaded” your wife-to-be in a way wo even knowing it! And like a good woman, she accepted your terms. 🙂
It was bizarre!!!!
Guess old dogs can learn new tricks after all! “Dread”, huh? I really need to start reading those memos I get.
Learning about game has helped me learn counter game, applied when needed like then! Like chess 🙂
Oh my goodness, So many things to comments on.
I agree Larry; ‘Dread’ is more like common sense. I have used ‘Dread’ on my wife before I ever found the manosphere.
RPG, I find your stories hilarious. I don’t know how you don’t just laugh in their faces.
I’m still shaking my head at a pervert walking up and telling a woman he does not know that he want to massage her feet? Seriously?
Learning about game has helped me learn counter game, applied when needed like then! Like chess:)
I didn’t know game meant try to act dominant.
I thought it was more like be confident and control your situation. Maybe I interpreted it they way I wanted.
P.S. I have not really studied game. Though from what little reading I have done, I think all men have some of it.
“The guy mentioned he and his wife are swingers.”
Swingers can be a pretty strange crowd.
@ go figure sometimes it’s hard not to! But I am too kind for that. Humor saves face for all involved.
True it’s not just about acting dominant, it’s about sexual dynamics. That guy wasn’t quite getting it, to put it kindly.
Yes indeed Liz, as soon as he said that I was like, “ahhh I see now…” (Back away slowly….)
Larry G I have lots of stories like that. I used to joke I was a homing signal for the weirdest guy in the bar!
I’m still shaking my head at a pervert walking up and telling a woman he does not know that he
wantdemand to massage her feet? Seriously?Fixed that for you. 🙂
so that’s when I playfully jumped in the friend’s lap.
Now I know how to get my wife to do this.
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Sorry, I’m of to find a strange swinger.
annnnnd still working on Part 2
Part 2
We landed at JFK airport and spent a very long time passing through customs. It had taken us almost a full year to do all the paperwork and jumping through the hoops that the US government had set up for my wife to get her green-card. My family of course had never before met my wife, we were married in her country with only her family present.
My bride was so anxious to make a good impression on her new “mother” and “sisters”. At first all seemed well, they talked and laughed quite a bit. I began to relax a little and socialized with family I had not seen in many years, but still kept a guard up. A few years later after my mother had died, my wife told me about the conversations that took place during those early days of meeting my (female) family members. Most was not good. To be quite frank, the females in my family are/were feminists to some degree, the strong independent kind where the men are nice to have around as paying optional accessories. I have had more than a few “lively” discussions with those women over the years who I wished to God on several occasions I COULD divorce. Divorce is a world class sport to them. Perhaps me suggesting they are retarded probably didn’t help matters much.
After only a few weeks she no longer wanted to visit, preferring to stay home alone if I wished to go see family. Lemme see here, new wife from a foreign culture and country moves to the “land of the free”, is boxed in by new husband’s female family members who suggest rather strongly that new wife should get a divorce or annulment; and they would help her do it!
Yeah, that played real well.
I had told my wife that I intended for us to create a new life together in the US, but without further input from my family. My wife learned to drive and after proving to me that the pedestrian body count wasn’t too high, I got her a car. She tried college and was not impressed. And she wanted to look for a job, we spent evenings filling out the job applications; she found one which she still works to this day.
@ Larry he had asked my friend if we were a couple, then asked me of I was available to which I said “no” maybe he misassumed since my guy wasn’t there, I was looking? Who knows???
My friend is what would be called “a natural” in the sphere. He’s been killing it w the lady folk since middle school. He’s your typical “mc baddy” and yes the ladies do like him. The creeper guy backed down bc he didn’t want to tango w him, not bc I sat on his lap. But by sitting in his lap, I “declared” myself under his care. Primitive? Yes. Effective? Very. My friend seemed to enjoy it too, he thinks The whole thing was just another crazy adventure. and unlike the other guy, he also knew very well what it was all about and he was cool w playing the role. 🙂
I “declared” myself under his care. Primitive? Yes. Effective? Very.
I have played this role for some of my lady friend back in college. It is very effective at sending a message to a guy.
Larry,
Lemme see here, new wife from a foreign culture and country moves to the “land of the free”, is boxed in by new husband’s female family members who suggest rather strongly that new wife should get a divorce or annulment; and they would help her do it!
Words fail me.
What did they hope to accomplish? One more single women pretending to be happy? Half a world away from her family?
Likewise, my friend has never studied game, or maybe even heard of it, but he “gets it” naturally. Game isn’t new, it’s very old! Because girls jumping in his lap as AMOG (alpha man of the group) is not anything unusual, he also didn’t freak out or over think it. “Game” studied formally is for men who didnt “just get it.” It’s nothing sinister inherently. Can it be used manipulatively or deceitfully? Yes. (Think, “oh baby I am so in looooove!” Followed by the pump and dump. Gals actually decide who gets in (except if its done by force/abuse of course, not OK) so if a gal isn’t savvy enough to sort the true from the untrue prior to things commencing… Well that’s just the game and she “lost.” So to speak. People eat over think game like its always *BAD* when it’s actually just the way things work. If a gal is too easy, and he does not then commit, who is at fault? A savvy gal gets the commit up front, before the boom boom. 😉
Or a gal who seeks commitment does. And yes BV if you are lurking, I said “boom boom” 😉
BV btw is a natural by descriptions he gives of interactions w the ladies.
Also who taught me AMOG is the one running the show in a game setting? Ton. 🙂
Yep.
goFigure –
“I get this and I understand. I can even empathize (no I have not experienced this…………….yet. Is my day coming? Maybe).”
hopefully never!
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” They often paint with brush strokes that are a little to wide for my liking.”
yeah … I get that. as the manosphere draws in men in all stages of dealing with their stuff, you’ll get the broad strokes. it’s part of the process of working thru things. first you have to prime the canvas – broad strokes. then put in the general colors. then work down to the details.
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“And I will stand up for my wife (unless she fires me from that job).”
as well you should!
RPG –
“My guy now loves me much as Larry describes.”
that’s awesome 🙂
redpillgirlnotes said:
April 5, 2016 at 5:02 pm
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In addition, I believe most men (including them) would love to love a woman like that, it’s often women who make that impossible. Many women have been raised to be hostile, dangerous, untrustworthy, and self centered. Sadly. I feel for men today. The pickings are slim…
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oh, yes. this is, sadly, so true.
goFigure said:
April 5, 2016 at 5:08 pm
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I like sharing my ideas, but if they don’t help anyone I can just read.
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they help 🙂
Larry G said:
April 5, 2016 at 5:58 pm
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that was a very interesting comment RPG. I had not put a name to my equation before, to me it was merely factual; Certain Actions = Very Specific Outcomes. During our engagement I told my wife-to-be the details of my divorce. Of course she had many questions, and received unvarnished truthful answers. I made her a solemn promise at that time that if she was ever unfaithful in our marriage, even once, there was no turning back and no recourse but swift termination of marriage.
On the flip side, faithfulness, kindness and femininity from her was a guarantee I would never leave or forsake her, literally till death parts us (and even that is up for debate).
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my husband is a lot like this … so figuring out that it has a name, and that it’s not the norm or standard anymore, has taken some time for him to understand. but he’s getting it. it’s fun talking to him about this stuff.
redpillgirlnotes said:
April 5, 2016 at 6:04 pm
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Go figure I have many times. I find humor is the best way to manage a guy like that. And to act clueless when I am anything but. I have diffused many such situations that way.
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humor, nice smile, and acting clueless are definitely useful in many a situation 🙂
goFigure said:
April 5, 2016 at 6:33 pm
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so that’s when I playfully jumped in the friend’s lap.
Now I know how to get my wife to do this.
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hahahahaha! funnee!!!
Larry G said:
April 5, 2016 at 6:51 pm
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Part 2
“Perhaps me suggesting they are retarded probably didn’t help matters much.”
hehe
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“but without further input from my family”
wise man.
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“My wife learned to drive and after proving to me that the pedestrian body count wasn’t too high, I got her a car.”
roflol!
redpillgirlnotes said:
April 5, 2016 at 7:04 pm
“But by sitting in his lap, I “declared” myself under his care. Primitive? Yes. Effective? Very. My friend seemed to enjoy it too, he thinks The whole thing was just another crazy adventure. and unlike the other guy, he also knew very well what it was all about and he was cool w playing the role.:) ”
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women need men to be their protectors. wise you. and good friend.
I’ve been writing on a male friend’s blog for many years … gosh, maybe 9, or something like that. I feel very safe there b/c I know he’s got my back. if he didn’t, I wouldn’t write there.
RPG,
That is one strange story. You did say that his wife was out of town with another guy?
That may be the determining factor in his weird behavior. It may be that swinging is the wife’s idea.
The rubbing your feet part is weird too. That is submissive behavior. Anyway, you’re not going to let a stranger get that close. Bears feel the same way about having their ears rubbed.
Everyone,
I can second what RPG said about Ton and BV. They have been put through the wringer and it is miracle that they will even socialize with women. In their shoes, I’d never leave the cave.
Larry G,
There is a teory about marriages across cultures that they are inherently stronger because there are fewer cultural assumptions.
So, the women in your family tried to get her to dump you? Knowing what you went through with wife #1? What stinkers!
fuzziewuzziebear said:
April 5, 2016 at 9:02 pm
“Everyone,
I can second what RPG said about Ton and BV. They have been put through the wringer and it is miracle that they will even socialize with women. In their shoes, I’d never leave the cave.”
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extra kudos to both men.
RPG – I posted a comment w/a link that didn’t show up. do you have filters on for comments with links? no worries if you do, and no problem.
RPG,
I will defer to you and others about what game is and about the concepts of Alpha and AMOG.
I will simply say that from the my understanding; I am Alpha, Beta, Gamma and Omega all rolled into one man. I am also red-pill, anti-feminist and a KISA (for my wife an a few other women. The rest can go back to whatever hole they climbed out of).
I find is hilarious that an alpha male is determined by female attention.
Larry G,
Mulling over what your female relatives tried to do, it occurred to me that it may be a Team Woman thing. Bringing in a wife from overseas is harder than it needs to be be. At the bottom, American women want to be able to treat their men as badly as they want .They don’t want to compete with women fron other cultures that don’t treat their men badly.
-NAWALT-
I forgot to add that I am MGTOW in regards to females and males.
Fuzzy,
Mulling over what your female relatives tried to do, it occurred to me that it may be a Team Woman thing. ……. At the bottom, American women want to be able to treat their men as badly as they want .They don’t want to compete with women fron other cultures that don’t treat their men badly.
ROTFL 😉
does this work?
RPG – Learning about game has helped me learn counter game, applied when needed like then! Like chess:)
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I like you!
it would appear that my comments are being blocked. Bye!
Cyn – idk if they have Rainbows in your area, but they had it in mine at the time we needed it. it worked great for my Oldest, so-so for my Youngest.
go out to rainbows dot org. it’s a place that helps children and teens deal with loss/divorce/etc.
Larry if you post more than one link WordPress automatically puts the comment in moderation, I will set it free. I have been at the beach… 🙂 no conspiracy, promise!
Larry G,
I don’t see any reason to censor, block, or, in any way, mess with your comments. It must be something technical.
Please stick around, You are making a contribution.
@ go figure I actually think men sort out amog between themselves, women just key into it. And yes women can be mislead by guys acting alpha. I suppose this may be what the guy with the trying to order me about was attempting? But no, that’s not alpha…
I actually quibble a bit w the whole alpha/beta thing, is is defined so differently by so many.
I am sooooo not impressed by this WordPress.
I must have wasted a good 90 minutes trying to deflect the WordPress idiot attack. Now a log in is required for each and every comment? Jeez.
Larry I am trying to figure out how to free your comment via phone… Hold tight!
Just for the record I very rarely censor. Someone would have to be way way way out of line. So always assume the best, k? Stay tuned…
Oh dear… Let me see… I am sure we can reset you to “ok”
It’s designed to block spammers posting links to ads and such, I believe…
RPG,
I actually think men sort out amog between themselves, women just key into it.
I highly doubt this. The only men I have ever meet that the sphere would consider alpha/socially dominant do not impress me. My general take is that: ‘The crap coming out of an alpha’s butt hole is more valuable then the crap coming out of their brain through their mouth’.
Now that I know how top get around this PITA WordPress, I’ll try picking up again.
fuzziewuzziebear
Mulling over what your female relatives tried to do, it occurred to me that it may be a Team Woman thing. Bringing in a wife from overseas is harder than it needs to be be. At the bottom, American women want to be able to treat their men as badly as they want .They don’t want to compete with women from other cultures that don’t treat their men badly.
-NAWALT-
After treating my wife so badly and with contempt, when I became aware of what my female family members did; I went into full blown defend and protect mode. The fallout continues to this day, but NO ONE ever hurts my wife, period.
The main offenders were my sisters, insulting her culture, religion and customs. Unacceptable.
no worries RPG, I do not post links to anything and I can deal with the WordPress now that I know how to twist it’s tail.
An interesting outcome of my family welcoming committee was that my Turkish in-laws family became so much closer to me. I am a brother/uncle/son in their eyes.
Larry I can’t figure it put on my phone but hang tight, after dinner I will pull out the laptop and fix it! 🙂
no sweat, eat a leisurely dinner RPG. As I said, I have figured out how to twist it’s tail to comply. Doing fine
no worries.
It’s been an awesome day. Perfect weather, we found an amazing ultra modern hip fully furnished house for less per night than a hotel, fireplace, big jetted tub, gourmet kitchen in a cute little town! Pinch me – squee!!!
Ame, this was interesting
“In addition, I believe most men (including them) would love to love a woman like that, it’s often women who make that impossible. Many women have been raised to be hostile, dangerous, untrustworthy, and self centered. Sadly. I feel for men today. The pickings are slim…
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oh, yes. this is, sadly, so true.”
I came to that same conclusion (women have been raised to be hostile, dangerous, untrustworthy, and self centered) nearly 40 years ago, it has not gotten better. Once I left the good old US of A in the late 80’s, I discovered, literally, NAWALT.
When I first met my wife, there were many young women with similar mindsets wanting marriage, a family of their own and the love of a husband. It may be rare here, but if men were to widen their area of vision, the pickings are quite a bit better overseas. I know that statement is soooo not politically correct, I’ll try to be properly shamed about it in a day or two.
Larry – glad you’re sticking around.
the blogging world is kinda funny. sometimes i have to take a break for a day or two or so and come back. usually when i think it’s about me, it isn’t.
redpillgirlnotessaid:April 6, 2016 at 1:46 am
It’s been an awesome day. Perfect weather, we found an amazing ultra modern hip fully furnished house for less per night than a hotel, fireplace, big jetted tub, gourmet kitchen in a cute little town! Pinch me – squee!!!
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yay!!! i LOVE the beach! 🙂
Larry –
“It may be rare here, but if men were to widen their area of vision, the pickings are quite a bit better overseas. I know that statement is soooo not politically correct, I’ll try to be properly shamed about it in a day or two.”
i’ve actually been hearing that for quite a long time, so no need to feel shame there … esp when just stating the truth!
well I get that, Ame. Working takes a fairly decent slice of time out of my day so I comment on and off as I can. A break sounds like a plan, as my bride and I are going to do this coming weekend, No blogging and/or internet from Friday night to Sunday night since we are going to a spa. I’ll be back on Monday, but here for the rest of the week.
I’m so glad I have been off the market for so long, it just has become so strange and dangerous in the dating arena; almost like hand-to-hand combat
RPG,
Glad to hear about your awesome day. We have found sweet deals like that once or twice. They are great.
I have no idea who owns this house but they must be really cool. There is an amazing book and movie collection, a killer sound system w another amazing collection of CD’s, a really nice keyboard/piano in the loft, panoramic views w floor to ceiling windows, beautifully furnished, lots of amazing original art and photography, very secluded. Amazing! My karma must be paying off 🙂 the kiddos are soooo happy and loving it. Very fun! We needed this! 🙂
Lol only trouble is I can’t watch most of the movies I’d like to bc they aren’t kid friendly (not porn or anything but too grown up serious/deep) but I am making a list to watch on Netflix later! 🙂
@larry I agree but would urge caution, I have known men who have been burned by mail order bride type arrangements. Women be women… Still good to screen and choose carefully.
Larry – ahhh, y’all will have a great weekend!
i’ve only dated 2 men since the end of 1984 … my first husband who i met at that time, and my 2nd husband. very thankful the first guy i dated after my divorce (i did not date for 2 years after my divorce) was my man. i’d be terrible at it. i think that if he widows me young, i’ll just enjoy life by myself. it does seem dangerous from this pov.
redpillgirlnotessaid:April 6, 2016 at 2:21 am
I have no idea who owns this house but they must be really cool. There is an amazing book and movie collection, a killer sound system w another amazing collection of CD’s, a really nice keyboard/piano in the loft, panoramic views w floor to ceiling windows, beautifully furnished, lots of amazing original art and photography, very secluded. Amazing! My karma must be paying off:) the kiddos are soooo happy and loving it. Very fun! We needed this!:)
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that relaxes me just reading it!
are you comfortable sharing the ages of your children?
RPG,
oh wow….mail order brides are certainly NOT what I meant!
“@larry I agree but would urge caution, I have known men who have been burned by mail order bride type arrangements. Women be women… Still good to screen and choose carefully.”
Under no circumstances should a man “buy a pig in a poke”. Broken analogy, but you get the idea. My bride was not mail order, I officially courted her for well over 2 years, learned her language and customs, met and came to love her family, created a comfortable home for her as she passed from her father’s house into mine.
I think good women still exist here in the USA (like the ones that post here), but it is nearly impossible to find and identify them. With foreign women you do take the chance that they are just waiting long enough to get citizenship.
I started late so one is pre teen and the other preschool! 🙂 I am 45. (How did that happen? Time flies!!!)
Yes Larry, that’s the way. It scares me for these guys just going via Internet
True re few and far between here. That’s why I advise such women to go above and beyond to prove they are different. Men assuming they aren’t is just good self protection, IMHO.
Overall I would agree w the red pill that the market (marriage and dating) is a bad deal, i mean terminal, but I do believe people can still find happiness on an individual basis if they go in with their eyes open.
Like warren buffet advises, one can increase the odds of a win in any market by breaking from what everyone else is doing and doing the opposite. 🙂