The Fourth of July seems as appropriate as any day to bring up the topic of what masculinity has done for civilization and life as we know it.
Over the past 40 or so years, masculinity has become demonized in a similar way that femininity has. Men and boys are told to not be so loud, so aggressive, so physical, so boisterous, so stoic, so territorial, so dominant, and so on. And for goodness sake, never play act like you have a weapon and are a superhero (shock, horror, and counseling sessions…)
Instead they have been encouraged by almost all social forces (including in many cases the church) to “explore their feminine side,” be comfortable with their emotions, be meek, be vulnerable, show their feelings, not fight back, not fight at all, etc.
This post at another blog got me reflecting on where we might be in the past, present, and future without masculinity?
The founders of the United States were not hesitant to be men. And look at the result. A nation founded on freedom, independence, self determination, democracy, safety, security, private individual rights, and many more worthy values. Values all who live in the United States take for granted as givens today, forgetting perhaps they were hard won and at great cost (symbolized by the very fireworks set off in mass tonight.)
Why would we encourage American men not to be men today? In order to “tame” them? That may seem like a good idea until one realizes, tame the “man” out of men, plus add little incentive otherwise for them to be noble, heroic, or for the greater good due to ridicule, anti-male divorce and custody laws, and other social norms that make men think twice about getting involved with women at all due to the risk, and well… crickets and pansy boys crying for you to fight for them may be the response in womankind’s time of need.
Just saying…
p.s. this post is not meant to criticize the male response to the feminine imperative — demanding all in its favor. It is meant to help those who are female question, are we driving men away, or endearing them? A good question to ask because biologically and for survival they need us less, much, much, much less than we need them, btw. Yeah, I know it’s taboo to say that these days… but that does not make it untrue. Take away civilization and the protection it affords women and children and that would become abundantly clear, abundantly fast… being nice to men and appreciating them for who they naturally are and what they naturally do is not that hard, is it? In fact celebrating it and encouraging it is the very basis of civilization itself. Why would they, if not appreciated? Hummm….
Notes From a Red Pill Girl 
RPG,
First things first. Happy Fourth of July!
Thanks for trying.
my Youngest is at a youth retreat with my sister and her church’s youth group. about once a year my Youngest goes someplace like this (very limited options with her special needs), and Oldest gets me all to herself. we have a lot of fun, and i thoroughly enjoy our time together.
tonight we went to a neighboring small town to watch their fire works. we’ve been going every year since i married my husband. it’s just a nice family place to watch the fire works. we took our ‘new’ little dog, Jazzie, and she was a hit with the children. my daughter and i love little children, and one little girl, in particular, took up with the three of us and spent half the fireworks on my lap with Jazzie on her lap. very sweet.
we met the little girl’s mother, of course, before i let her stay with us, and got Mom’s permission. at the end we took some pics b/c she was just that precious. then her little brother wanted to get some pics with us, too. i should have got Mom’s info, but i didn’t. anyway … after they were over and we were talking and kids were playing with Jazzie some more, this little girl started telling me about her family … it’s her, her brother, her baby brother who is 5 months old, and her mom. she never mentioned a dad. my heart dropped for these kids.
while we were waiting for cars to clear out before getting in the long traffic line, some dudes decided to give us some entertainment. so nice of them to think of us! from a relatively short distance we saw some cops come up, one guy got out and was frisked, another guy was taken to the other side by another cop. i told my daughter it looked like the men got into an altercation. i rolled down the windows to try to eve’s drop … cause, you know, if i’m gonna watch the show, it’d be fun to know what i’m watching! as we drove by when it was our turn, we heard one guy say, “And they he spit all over us!” the dude that had to get out of his suv had those stickers on the back that indicate a family – you know, the ones with a dad, mom, and kids. i saw mom in the suv … and i assume the kids were in the back. dude complaining of spit to the cop had a girlfriend with him. looked like there was a third dude to another side, too. i told my daughter they were trying to figure out who was the Alpha Male … but the thing was, none were b/c, and i’m guessing here, if one were the alpha, there wouldn’t have been an altercation. hey, dad … spitting on another dude in front of your kids … way to go … ye-ah. men, please correct me if i’m wrong.
well … it was good for some giggles with my daughter, anyway. but a sad state when men are spitting on each other. i may be wrong … and men, please correct me if i am and set me straight. but i don’t see how spitting on another man proves anything.
I knew some people that were prime examples of what a man is supposed to be.
My Dad as a father, a husband, a scientist. My teachers in school Mr Smart the music teacher, my two roshei Yeshiva Reb Freifeld and Reb Shmuel Berenbaum.
I would like to go into detail about each one and what i learned from them. But this minute it is hard to do so because excellence is hard to describe. And what makes it different from mediocrity. Still, God willing I would like to go into detail perhaps in a future comment.
Avraham – WOW. coming from my world where i didn’t have even one man as an example of what a man is supposed to be … to hear/read you had that many? that is amazing, awesome, incredible.
Today it is hard to find good people much less great people. But the main thing about each of the people I mentioned is they loved what they were doing and they were extremely competent and had a tremendous excitement about them in trying to instill this into others.
Off topic. The woman who wrote Eat, Pray, Love has separated from her husband of nine years. Captain Capitalism’s link will take you to the article. It is good to read his opinion first.
http://captaincapitalism.blogspot.com/2016/07/eat-pray-divorce-die-of-old-age.html
Men are wired to compete, to overcome, to grow. Its all the testosterone floating around and the massive amounts of endorphines released when we break a sweat!
What? Sweat? Say What? You mean like at the gym and stuff. Well I meant to but Game of Thrones was on and I couldn’t find my gym bag..
Barf!!
Until even thirty years ago the majority of men did stuff to survive. Even an office drone had to push a manual lawn mower and change his oil. i.e. sweat to get shit done.
and think. Take your paycheque..yes a slip of paper…to the bank. figure in your head mortgage and car payment and this bill and money for groceries and ask the nice teller for your answer. Get it wrong? No money for you til the branch opens monday…after you start work.
Modern life has ..for most…zero natural chances to do manly things. The only reason I can out bench 39 out of 45 guys at the office is cause I farm. havent been to a gym in a decade. I have to do manly shit. Just spent four days digging fence post holes by hand cause I dont have a digger in 30 c heat. And I feel GREAT! Your vacation..oh Disney. See that 600 feet of fence. Yup by these hands.
Modern life can be lived by an omeba of either sex. So its all now social games and power plays and Yawn…wake me when something new happens.
Wanna get masculinity back….unplug back to the 70s. No riding mower. No ATM. No Interwebs…its called a book. Bored? Its called a walk. Using feet. Go. Do.
Then again what is the incentive? Achievement? Respect? a Thank You?
A HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAhahahahahah. (sorry)
Or the unending (meaning til tuesday) attention of the resting bitchface, I can do your job better, but I get paid less for working part time, stop fat shaming, tattooed pushing 30, trust me I would never frivorce you tehe creature that passes for modern feminimity? Uh No. Achievements on Xbox I get to keep.
Its sad.
Modern life allows those of us who are masculine a get out of jail card we could never have imagined. Call out the loud mouth, push the wimp off the weight machine, tell that attention seeker exactly what you want to do to her. Basically be as caveman as you want. AND THEY ALL WILL DROP UNDIES FOR YOU.
Unfortunately those of us who have values and just want to be left alone, it is almost too easy. And the games are boring as hell.
I walk in to the pub. I sit down where I want. I say forget a menu just bring me a steak and a beer. Im not being manly. I not being alpha. I sure as hell dont care if you are attracted and pissed at the same time. It just means I’M HUNGRY and THIRSTY cause I was breaking a sweat either physically or mentally or likely both.
But mostly those of us who dont play games…….just want to be left quietly Alone.
No thanks Mame, just a steak and a beer please.
Bloom
to respectfully disagree with your p.s.
Regardless of the state of men, caused by the ease of modern life in my opinion (see above) WOMEN have made it ABUNDANTLY CLEAR in act, thought, article, blogpost, slutwalk on and on and on
That they DO NOT NEED nor appear to WANT MEN.
to which a growing number thru mgtow, pua or just not caring are individually
SAYING OK. BYE. Have a nice life.
You can’t put it back.Trust only works once.
If you decide you need us…..mmmm..no
Been there, lost at that, not again.
You wanted it. you got it
(women not Bloom, we like her)
A further thought on my link to the Eat, Pray, Love author. She is still good looking. She is going to try it again.
I’m surprised no one has mentioned the typo in the post title. I wondered for a moment if it had something to do with Ronald McDonald because it refers to Maculinity, not Masculinity. 🙂
The tie in to this post with the Eat, Pray, Love author does make sense. Like most modern women, she sees men as all too easily replaceable.. We can’t be because we started of in life with near equal numbers of men and women. After a few decades, the men thin out due to higher mortality. We are replaceable to a point and, once that point is reached, it becomes difficult.
LOL< Thanks OkRickety, I appreciate you being to one to mention it. These guys are so used to my typos, they don't even bother anymore! Lol. Welcome!
No surprise there re the EPL gal. And of course I bet it’s ALL HIM, too. Imagine that? Sad.
Like it Horseman, you sound like a cool guy. And agreed re: people don’t know hard work anymore, and physical labor, and my hunch says a lot of the depression and stuff is related to that. The human body is meant to MOVE. Not sit for hours on end.
Also agreed w the women asked for it and now they have got it. Oops. Don’t like it sis? Sorry. I get what you are saying, but have worked hard on myself to not be that gal. And it’s paid off. I get lots of attention, holy smokes since becoming red pill aware I can actually *see* guys falling in love with me as we talk. And why? Because I listen to them. I respect them. I admire their efforts and thank them. I have to actively be aware of it, bc I am not on the market, nor do I want to mislead people. But it is like catnip, femininity is. More women should try it (but they are too busy complaining and blaming men to stop and listen!)
Oh and also I do not mean that as a brag. I actually try very hard to not mislead people. But they fall anyway, just because it is so unusual I think, not bc I am any amazing goddess or anything. Trust me, I am NOT that. Most of the time I am dressed in muck boots and a flannel and am slinging farm, stuff, no shower, no makeup, no thought to my looks in fact bc I am working, and even THEN they say, “Wow, you smell amazing!” or “I could look into your eyes forever.” Huh? I need a shower, and some eyeliner… what are they talking about?!?!?! Lol.
Catnip??? More like chocolate covered honey glazed doughnuts for this bear!
@ Fuzzie, in her book anyway, she left her first husband bc he had needs and wants of his own, that weren’t just about her or that didn’t fit into her ideal life script. (He wanted kids, she didn’t, probably good they didn’t.) Then she got a book advance from some dumb publisher to actually go on that one year “self discovery journey” then meet the guy you are talking about, and declared it in the happy ending of the book anyway, “Tru wav always!” Barf.
RPG,
Serial monogamy wouldn’t be so bad except for one detail, children. You never stop being a parent.
As for EPL, I never read the book or saw the movie. I am sure tht it is all about trashing a relationship so she can sample other men and all the excuses for taking that course. In the process, the woman harms an innocent, motivated man.This cripples him and her’ll tell dozens of his first hand experience, sowing doubt among men.
It is catnip or donuts or in my case meatlovers pizza extra meat.
Women have the get out of jail free card to if they want.
Just (as Bloom does) BE A GIRL. a nice, light, carefree, soft, polite GIRL.
Its SSssooooo frustrating. The answer is right there. Just be what you were meant to be. Actions speak the truth. Girl listens then she actually listens. Guy sweats then he actually works hard. People unconciously lie verbally all the time but they only bother to DO what they believe in or want to do. (oh i like a clean house said in front of dishes on the counter).
Just the fact that Bloom maintains this blog or Ame or Tarnished are always here with thoughtful comments show their genuine interest in men, thru their actions. That is so rare I can see why the guys fall for you. Just remember
With great power comes great responsibility😆
“Just remember
With great power comes great responsibility”
yes. i teach this to my girls, too.
it has been written this way:
“When someone has been given much, much will be required in return; and when someone has been entrusted with much, even more will be required.”
(Luke 12:48)
Thank you horseman, I really do try very, very hard not to mislead anyone or hurt anyone. I have learned to walk the line of friendly banter and it not going any further than that. Were I of a different bent I am sure I could work it and use it but that’s not my style. I believe in being good because it’s a good thing to be, even when nobody is watching. 🙂