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An article recently linked to a post by a feminist on Twitter claiming all men are rapists and should be shot.
Think about that. All men should be shot? All men are rapists?
Now imagine someone saying all women are (X) and should be shot. Or all people of color? Or all gay people? Or all transgender people? Certainly there would be an outcry.
Hate speech is hate speech, no matter who is saying it. And it’s not OK.
In fact, it’s more than not OK. Anyone (including women) saying such things are a threat to a functional and orderly society.
First of all, all men ARE NOT rapists. Clearly they are not. Rape is a violent and horrific crime and to call anything less than the true definition of that “rape” minimizes what true rape victims have experienced. This is rape. A guy looking at you in the cafeteria is not.
As one commenter raised, just who did she propose would round up and shoot all these men? Would she expect other men to do it for her? Then shoot each other at the end? Or was she imagining some posse of women rounding up and shooting all the men? Who exactly is going to commit this genocide?
Thing is why is it commonly accepted that negatively stereotyping and lumping a group of people who share one common characteristic is not OK, unless that group is men? How is that fair and equal? But it happens all the time, and nobody says a thing about it.
The crazy just needs to stop.
I for one acknowledge the many, many good men in this world. Wonderful men. Men who work hard to keep things working. Men who collect the garbage, fix the power lines, plumb the pipes, police the streets, defend the country, and all the other invisible and visible jobs good men who deserve respect and appreciation, not death threats, do.
The thing is, men don’t HAVE to do anything for women. They don’t OWE women anything. And the more women act so blatantly unappreciative and entitled, the less men will want to do for women. I don’t think that is in anyone’s best interest, including that woman’s.
So listen up sister — shut it! And perhaps you should be charged with hate speech and encouraging hate crime and lose your job and all status in society while we are at it. Just like a man would be.
Hate speech is no more acceptable from a “minority” or “disadvantaged group” than from a majority. And how someone who supposedly is for equality and human rights could possibly believe otherwise is beyond me.
What do you think? Please share in the comments, and remember to respect other commenter’s views even if you disagree. Thanks!
Notes From a Red Pill Girl 
“I for one acknowledge the many, many good men in this world. Wonderful men. Men who work hard to keep things working. Men who collect the garbage, fix the power lines, plumb the pipes, police the streets, defend the country, and all the other invisible and visible jobs good men who deserve respect and appreciation, not death threats, do.”
I just want to say thank you for this. Thank you for acknowledging the often-dangerous jobs we men do.
You bet, Alex! THANK YOU!!!!
When a woman says all men are rapist she means
Please will some sexy alpha rype me like in the housewife porn I read
There’s hate speech on every group. It makes it no more okay for a woman to say this about a man than it is for a man to say this about a woman.
Then there’s this whole freedom of speech debate that seems to be resurfacing. I support freedom of speech, but I don’t support people spewing hate filed messages just for the sake of it “because they can” and because that’s what feels good to them in the moment. Where do we draw the line between freedom of speech and hate speech?
You can have freedom of speech
Or
You can have equality, diversity, progressives etc
But not both
She is a complete sexist dumbass cretin like the guys in the dark side of the ‘sphere who want acid thrown on all woman’s faces. I’ve no time for such bottom dwellers who wish death, pain, or harm on others for such utterly moronic reasons.
i genuinely appreciate my husband and all he does for us, and i let him know that, often. What is telling is his response at how rare it is for a woman to appreciate her man rather than tear him down.
Related; What would happen if all men died over night – this guy has given it some thought; http://mra-uk.co.uk/?p=474
Women need men just as much as they ever did, albeit one step removed, with the gov or corporations as intermediaries between men’s labour and women’s needs. Enough to create the fiction that all women are (or can be) as independent as the best of men.
And in reality, that is all feminism has sought to do; not to genuinely make women as truly as independent as men, but to release women from any obligation to show thanks or respect for what men do.
This matters. For nothing motivates a man to work hard, provide and love quite like the respect of a women who has proven herself worthy of his efforts. And as women, as a group, have increasingly been taught that to be thankful and respectful for what men do is weak and shameful, so more and more men have checked out. It took us 4 decades to burn through the treasure of a thousand years trying to make up for the resultant loss of male productivity, before we started borrowing first from our children, and now, our grandchildren.
Men’s ability to live very well on very little is the Achilles heel that will – is in fact – kill feminism and get women to start behaving more respectfully. It shouldn’t have had to come to this – over the last 50 years many men, and not a few women have warned of the folly of the path women were taking, only to be met with shaming, mockery and insults.
Well, now the time for warnings has passed. we are now in the age of consequences. And women are paying for it in money, misery and motherhood denied. It will likely get much worse before it gets better.
The author of that tweet is Julie Bindel, a radical feminist and lesbian. I believe that subscribes to the notion that all sex is rape. There has been some speculation that putting out that tweet was like putting bait on the water for sharks. She will get mean tweets in reply and ask Twitter to restrict these people, neve mind that her tweet was inflammatory in the extreme. Consider that Milo Yiannopolis got a lifetime ban for having words with Leslie Jones. She can be inflammatory too.
You have to wonder why normal feminists tolerate these wackos. They are strangely silent about them. Could it be that they are the source?
Thanks for your vote of confidence. It i nice that some women can see that some men are decent.
Good question Ash. I favor the right to objectionable speech, the right to disagree, so I actually think I’d err light on the “hate speech” charges but equally applied. Obviously w limits like blatant extortion, harassment, bodily threats, blackmail, etc. The stuff that’s “already illegal.”
Sadly Ame! 😦 Men deserve better! Everybody does!
Ton, see free speech above. Do you concur? Or how would you define that?
@ Cadders sadly true. I am frustrated that women can’t see the cliff straight ahead, but yet instead say, “Go gurrrrrrl!” I try to provide illumination. Or I rant anyways.
And further, imagine a world where HALF of the currant populations dies, no less a very valuable and unique skill set half that makes a lot of stuff work.
Plus, think of the ecological disaster. What’s the mystical “envio. friendly” route there? Hint. None.
I mean, not to go on and on, but imagine the intel loss such an event would trigger alone. Catastrophic. Dark Ages w/i months.
Much less are these women going to shoot their own sons or male relatives? Really? 😦 Sick… Totally sick…
Rant, rant, rant…
True Fuzzie, how can people say such incendiary things and just get the thumbs up? Really?
Avram, men are more than decent. They are essential. They are as much “life” as women. What will that last generation do with no offspring as they age? No future generations? No continuity? Such a devastating and traumatic loss KILLING a full HALF of the population so systematically? That all women alive would agree to such madness??? No Yin/Yang? It’s insanity. How does one woman have the audacity to impose HER lifestyle choices (minus men) on all? Really? Is this rule by the under 5%? Likely that would support killing all men, under .000,0005% one would hope. :(Nobody I would hope, except this person who should probably seek counseling and professional help rather than spew such vitriol. And did Twitter shut that down? Or trend it?
Wow, I do feel strongly about this do I not? Yes, yes I do. It is totally the opposite of respecting human rights, dignity, value, and equality.
I don’t know if it would kill feminism. Generally when those kind of ideals start to fail, the proponents just double down.
From Reddit. He can’t be the only one reporting her.
I’m sorry. I just can’t get behind this kind of nanny-state approach to offensive/hate speech. Mostly because of what is considered offensive/hate speech will mutate in to something oppressive, based on how things seem to be headed.
The better thing is to just ignore her. She has the right to free speech. She has no right to be heard.
Words only have the power that you allow them to have. Personally I really don’t care what she says. Now if she actually does something, that’s a whole other matter.
The best way to handle people like her, is to ignore her. She thrives on all of the attention her comments cause. Even if it is negative attention. Nothing hurts them more than being ignored.
“Nothing hurts them more than being ignored.”
truth.
cause it takes all their power away from them.
Moi,
We don’t have hate spech laws here but, they do in the UK. What Julie Bindel intends is to send out an inflammatory tweet and see all her opponents charged who return the favor while she is off, scot free.
What you say about the First Anmentment is correct. Unless the threat is credible, it shouldn’t be considered a threat.
If the Julie Bindels of the world want to talk like men, they can most certainly get beat down like men as well. Women like her are domestic violence incidents waiting to happen. No self respecting man would ever tolerate that kind of talk from a woman.
Yes I doubt there would be charges but yet just as an intellectual exercise to propose what if another said such a thing?
I get the ignoring thing too, good point. No need to give total BS wings, I was just trying to call it out. Flag thrown.
To spam bucket comments of mine went.
The Dark Side to blame it is
Weird Yoda, several have reported similar lately…. I do not understand why this is? Everyone please let me know if you post and it does not show up OK? I am not deleting or censoring things…
wordpress is doing weird things for me lately. grrr.
The world today is different from the one I grew up in. My parents and teachers and friends were wholesome moral and amazing. Something about the world changed.Some shift or consciousness to make everyone change in someway. It was perhaps more simple for me to see because for period I had been isolated from the world. When I emerged everything about people and they way they thought had changed in significant ways. It must be like Carl Jung had said about the collective Consciousness.
Very weird and strange doctrines have accepted as normal that a few years ago would have be dismissed as serve cases of schizophrenia.
Abraham,
Elaborate you can?
I meant feminism and many of the modern ”mishagases”[insanities]. But also something more subtle. People in the USA were looking at many possible solutions to the question “What is Truth?” But the answers had some basis in reality of known experience. It was not common to say some nice sounding principle and then everything else after that had to fit into that box. Feminism just postulates men and women are equal in everything. And after that everything else has to follow including nature. And if nature does not want to agree, we will make her agree. We will show Mother Nature who is boss around here. And don’t you forget it. So we get the idea that the sexes are interchangeable. That is juts one area of insanity. Nowadays there are many more. Some religious in nature. Some political. When people have some kind of schizoid personality problem and cant focus their insanity in some religious sphere because of the nature of society they instead do it in regard to politics.
avraham…”When people have some kind of schizoid personality problem and cant focus their insanity in some religious sphere because of the nature of society they instead do it in regard to politics” I think there is much truth to this; people who once would have become religious fanatics of some sort now become political fanatics instead.
There’s a very interesting memoir by a guy who grew up in German between the wars. Speaking of a time when the political and economic situation stabilized (under the Stresseman chancellorship) he says:
“The last ten years were forgotten like a bad dream. The Day of Judgment was remote again, and there was no demand for saviors or revolutionaries…There was an ample measure of freedom, peace, and order, everywhere the most well-meaning liberal-mindedness, good wages, good food and a little political boredom. everyone was cordially invited to concentrate on their personal lives, to arrange their affairs according to their own taste and to find their own paths to happiness.”
BUT…and I think this is a particuarly important point…a return to private life was not to everyone’s taste:
“A generation of young Germans had become accustomed to having the entire content of their lives delivered gratis, so to speak, by the public sphere, all the raw material for their deeper emotions…Now that these deliveries suddently ceased, people were left helpless, impoverished, robbed, and disappointed. They had never learned how to live from within themselves, how to make an ordinary private life great, beautiful and worth while, how to enjoy it and make it interesting. So they regarded the end of political tension and the return of private liberty not as a gift, but as a deprivation. They were bored, their minds strayed to silly thoughts, and they began to sulk.”
“To be precise (the occasion demands precision, because in my opinion it provides the key to the contemporary period of history): it was not the entire generation of young Germans. Not every single individual reacted in this fashion. There were some who learned during this period, belatedly and a little clumsily, as it were, how to live. they began to enjoy their own lives, weaned themselves from the cheap intoxication of the sports of war and revolution, and started to develop their own personalities. It was at this time that, invisibly and unnoticed, the Germans divided into those who later became Nazis and those who would remain non-Nazis.”
I think we have something parallel in American today. There are a considerable number of people–the ‘Social Justice Warriors’ and such–who have become accustomed to having the entire content of their lives, all the raw material for their deeper emotions delivered by the public sphere.
http://chicagoboyz.net/archives/11181.html
i posted a few things that disappeared…
David Foster: Thank you for that very insightful idea about Germany between the two wars
David… Indeed. Not good. Not good at all… 😦 but yes, I was talking to someone just the other day about how when life is not about struggle and survival, when things are too easy, the mind invents troubles… I may write a post about that!
“when things are too easy, the mind invents troubles… I may write a post about that!”
Yes, please do. I think there is also much truth to this. There is a passage in Walter Miller’s brilliant novel A Canticle for Leibowitz of which I’m often reminded these days:
“The closer men came to perfecting for themselves a paradise, the more impatient they seemed to become with it, and with themselves as well. They made a garden of pleasure, and became progressively more miserable with it as it grew in richness and power and beauty; for then, perhaps it was easier for them to see that somethingwas missing in the garden, some tree or shrub that would not grow. When the world was in darkness and wretchedness, it could believe in perfection and yearn for it. But when the world became bright with reason and riches, it began to sense the narrowness of the needle’s eye, and that rankled for a world no longer willing to believe or yearn. Well, they were going to destroy it again, were they—this garden Earth, civilized and knowing, to be torn apart again that Man might hope again in wretched darkness.”
(she wrote that all transgender men, gay men, black men and all other men should be all shot).
Nice to see she’s at least being consistent in her disgusting hatred, and making sure that trans/dysphoric people like me are also summarily killed alongside biological men. If there’s one thing radfems loathe, it’s a female that has forsaken the “sisterhood” and identifies/lives as a male.
I’m all for freedom of speech, but I also firmly believe that people like this should be watched carefully, in case they actually go round the bend and commit physical crimes or incite others to murder/maim.
It’s amazing that a lot of those who demand tolerance, have the least amount of it.
Precisely. And I know that a lot of people I’m associated with (Pagans, vegetarians, trans, bisexuals, egalitarians, etc) do tend to raise a ruckus over crap that they’re guilty of themselves…but in reverse. But that is a ridiculous way to live, constantly looking for things to claim intolerance over when you’re intolerant yourself.
There’s many people I disagree with or but I never think that the entire group they belong to is at fault. We’re all individuals, after all.
And yet somehow, our species is “top of the food chain”. Astonishing, isn’t it?
I’m amazed by this fact everyday, dude.
I have noticed that irony as well, Moi!
I see that the coward deleted her Twitter post. What a surprise.
Moi,
Pehaps it was at the suggestion of the police? If not them, it may have been other feminists. That tweet was a shocker and it did expose the level of hate radical feminists harbor to men. It borders on the insane.
Maybe. But people should have the morale courage to stand behind what they say. OR be strong enough to admit that they were wrong and why. Simply deleting without an explanation is cowardly.
Dear RPG, I disagree entirely.
Speech is only free if it is entirely free.
You fear the tirades of children.
Regards
Moi,
I don’t go on Twitter, but there does seem to be some sort of rulebook thatI haven’t seen. I do see your point. She shouldn’t have published , only to remove it at a later date.
@ Saracen I actually agree w you that free speech means free and it should. I guess what irked me was this person and people like them likely demand “hate speech” persecution be applied to others to the nth degree, yet feel it’s OK to say far worse themselves. I don’t support the SJW mindset at all. Sorry if I implied that. It’s the reverse double standard that floors me.
Even if she deleted, the cat is out of the bag and her name is now linked to those searches. Consequences of her choices. Bummer.
And actually I am being sarcastic when I say “bummer.”
A new post at Spawny’s there would be,
https://spawnyspace.wordpress.com/2016/08/19/misdirected/
RPG,
She is awful. Previously, she suggested that all men be put in camps. Women who would want to to take them out on day passes.
@ fuzzie what a nut job! Put men in camps? I hope others can see that for the clearly nuttery it is! Psycho level even. Maybe she has been hurt by someone but to project that onto all mankind is a bit….ummm…developmentally and intellectually stunted? There are obviously good and bad men, as there are good and bad women. I empathize that people wounded young may not see that easily but it’s a self exploration worth taking bc honestly there are MANY fantastic wonderful people of both sexes (and yes, many not.) I choose to focus on the positive, myself…
Previously, she suggested that all men be put in camps
If video games they do have,
like it they might
Lol true Yoda! Men might just volunteer for the guy camp were it properly equipped and spend the rest of their days gaming, eating, drinking, and being merry!
She did suggest that the camp have amusements like quadrunners but, the capacity for sheer hate to men, men they have never seen, is beyond belief.
Let me get this straight…
Put all men in camps, where all they do is play games, ride atvs, drink beer, watch tv, and only have to leave to get laid?
I don’t think that she really thought thewhole thing through before hitting “PublisH” on her column in the Guardian.
A new post at Spawny’s there is
https://spawnyspace.wordpress.com/2016/08/19/misdirected/
Nice post, this is actually part of a huge problem and not quite what you expect. As many have learned in the Manosphere, the “Social Media” platforms have aligned themselves with the progressives, socialist, leftist Mainstream Media to advanced the War On Men agenda of Feminists. Anyone who posts Right wing opinions … especially White Males will get their posts censored, deleted, or they will face outright Banishment.
For example, lets say we turn that woman’s post completely around; lets say it’s written by a White Male advocating such things about women. Can you imagine the repercussions ?
No, you cannot because you are Female and have never been subjected to the HATE AND PERSECUTION men are. Here is a range of possibilities of what could happen … if the poster is male.
First, there is no doubt the poster would be censored, deleted, and the person would be perm-banned. In addition, some woman would contact the FBI and claim it was a “Threat” against her and women in general. Since the legal system in the US is pretty much designed to put men in prison, there is no doubt that some white knight in Law Enforcement would decide he’d have to take out this “Lone Wolf” terrorist BEFORE he actually hurts someone. And that is why the NSA, FBI, CIA, ATF, DHS, and all the other “legal” authorities ILLEGALLY SPY ON AMERICANS. So he would be tracked down, identified, and every single web site the dude had visited for the last 10 yrs would be identified, investigated, along with EVERYTHING he ever posted at any of them. Every email he ever sent or received, every phone call, every text msg. His family would be identified and investigated, his background searched, every bank account, every debit card and atm transaction. Get the picture ? No, you don’t. Because if the PTB can’t find something to nail the guy on … they will manufacture it. Since they know this guys every move … the NSA spyware would install kiddie porn on his computer and he’d be arrested charged with 18 felonies and end up pleading guilty to something he didn’t do in order to avoid dying in prison. So he thinks, and so his lawyer tells him. Only due to the corruption and lies no one wants to believe, he has no idea that being a “convicted” pedophile means he will be raped daily in prison (courtesy of the “guards”) and after years of such torture will end up insane, killed by the other prisoners, or will take his own life.
Assuming the dude survives at all, after years in prison he gets out to society he doesn’t recognize, has no way to support himself (who is going to hire a convicted felon, pedophile just out of prison) … and he finds that there is not even a place he can live because every apartment complex performs background checks; yes, HOMELESS. And of course that’s because he’s on the “Sex Offender” list for decades to come. He will NEVER have a job or a place to live. Most end up drug addicts or back in prison, insane or of course dead. Ever wonder where those mentally ill old gray haired homeless men begging on the street corner came from ? Yeah, regular dudes … that ended up that way courtesy of your own government.
And what does a woman face for writing the same thing ? NOTHING.
The same they face for trying to destroy men with FALSE ALLEGATIONS OF RAPE.
NOTHING.
IMO, until society and the legal system treats women the same way they treat men, there is no turning this around. Originally Feminism was about equality. Now its about HATE AND DESTROYING MEN.
This woman’s post, is unusual in only that she wrote them down and made them public. There is a reason why 93% of all the people in jail are men. So what she is advocating is actually already happening; again its just the corrupt media and corrupt government hiding the truth. The first thing men learn when they take the Red Pill … is that they’ve been lied too. Well, folks YOU ARE BEING LIED TOO.
Last I looked into this a couple of years ago, I found (via wikipedia) that there were 2.2 million people in the US that were in prison, jail, or on parole. YOU SHOULD BE OUTRAGED to find that 2.1 million out of 2.2 million are MEN. That’s right … men are in fact be rounded up by the millions and forced into prison just like this woman was advocating. Don’t believe me ? Google is your friend. Try wikipedia “US incarceration rate” and do some research. There is an organization called NELP.org which has published data on discrimination in employment practices; last estimate is there are nearly 70 MILLION people who are essentially unemployable for life in the US because they have a criminal record. MOST ARE MEN. So, yes, men are being rounded up by the millions and eliminated from society. Didn’t know that ? Well, their lies are working … aren’t they ?
MGTOW … is it any wonder men are giving up …
I don’t support free speech. Words are way to dangerous and “free speech” is one of many poisoned pills, built into our culture that has been used against us. Not to mention the evil lawyers do with words
The only way I could support free speech is if bigger, stronger, meaner men can punch mouthy bitches in the face
I am by and large anti liberty when said liberty is extended beyond God fearing White men with property and large families
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I appreciate the support @redpillgirlnotes I have talked a little about sexism myself on my page. Please take the time to check it out. I think you’d like it. Also, I am working on a post that will go up the 28th about sexism from a man’s perspective. I feel like people are always so prejudice against us and it seems like its most often about how the girls have it bad, when guys like myself don’t matter. It might be a bit biased on my side, but I hope you’ll find some time to check it out. Thanks, The Author
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if all men are rapist according to feminism,why should men bother with women at all?
I’m tired of being blamed for things i have never done.