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Last night, as I watched the electoral college votes come in state by state, my younger daughter looked at the screen, saw Trump was in the lead, then asked me, “Who did you vote for, mom?”
I was somewhat surprised she was aware of it at all, and I wasn’t sure if I should answer or give her the spiel about how voting is a private matter and one should not ask.
I took a deep breath, and then I said “Trump.”
She looked at me disapprovingly, then said, “Mom, you are supposed to vote for the GIRL.”
I pondered for a minute and then answered, “It wasn’t because she was a girl that I didn’t vote for her, honey. I didn’t vote for her because she has taken a lot of money from people who are going to want favors that aren’t good for our country, and she has told lies, too.”
She considered all this, then got a huge smile on her face, and said, ‘Go, Trump!”
It was a teachable moment.
I hope as she grows up and starts to vote she will remember to always to consider the character and actions of the candidates, not only their gender. And that in politics, and life, it’s always best to pick the best person for the job, regardless of their gender.
I have high hopes for our country, and our future, and I think Trump will rise to the occasion and do his best to keep his promise to put America and Americans first. He’s overcome amazing odds to get there, something I admire in a person.
I know he’s not perfect, but I don’t think he is as sexist, racist, and everything else he’s been accused of. He’s a straight talker. It’s refreshing, if not always put in the best way. He seemed to be the ultimate apprentice, making blunders, learning from his mistakes, and turning into a better statesman before our eyes. I think he will do well.
What do you think? Please share in the comments (and please remember, disagreeing is OK, personal attacks are not. See the comment policy on the “About” page.”)
Notes From a Red Pill Girl 
i think that any sort of identity politics is bad for the country. many years ago i attended an executive leadership class run by OPM. their closing speaker was Cecil Reed, who wrote
https://www.amazon.com/Fly-Buttermilk-Story-Cecil-Singular/dp/0877454167
his main point was that labelling people held us all back, and kept us from any real advancement.
as long as people keep identifying others by color, race, religion, etc, things wont get better.
yesterday i read several blogs where authors were calling for unity and reconciliation. this morning many of them were calling people names and degrading others.
faux tolerance and faux desire to really work with others.
thats what gender and identity politics really are.
When Hillary opens her mouth she does,
lies come forth they do.
Not a good role model for a girl this is
my friend has five kids … the older two are school-age girls; the younger three are boys. as they do nowadays, they have mock elections in schools. they were telling each other who they voted for, and one of the boys said H. his sisters almost shot him! they asked why he voted for her, and he said, “I like gwirls!”
@FNU MNU LNU: “… i attended an executive leadership class run by OPM”
When? I worked for OPM in the department that put on these classes for the SES and incoming political appointees in the late 1970’s / early 1980’s. I was quite young, and learned a lot by rubbing shoulders with the folks who filled these positions – learning that they are actually humans just like the rest of us. They just have to make different decisions than we usually have to make.
i went to the emdc in 2001, 2002, and 2003. joe kerns ran the first class and i dont remember who ran the other two. got to hear capt ed davis, and had him come and speak to my agency’s managers conference. awesome speaker.
LOL Ame, that’s cute!
I am sexist, but I am outraged at the sexism of those who claim not to be sexist, supporting Hillary for being a woman.
And yes, typical, the unity preachers now calling names. Hypocrites.
Where I live, they officially swapped the word for foreigner with another, because foreigner had a negative ring to it. Recently, they officially swapped the other word for a third, because it had somehow obtained negative association. They can keep forbidding words forever, but the truth bobs to the surface again and again. Before mass immigration, the first word for foreigner did not have a negative feeling with it. It’s the forced mixing of cultures, and the resentment that comes from the topic being taboo. That’s why a straight talker got elected. People are sick of being accused of thought crimes.
I do think Trump is racist. Researchers found that people of every race showed brain activity in the part of the brain that deals with threat assessment, when they see someone of another race. Racism is normal and natural, the only immoral thing is to treat people badly based on their race alone. But you can’t expect the same familiarity to and from people who don’t look or sound familiar.
“…the only immoral thing is to treat people badly based on their race alone.”
It was this line of thinking that led South Africa from being the bread basket of all of Africa to the shit hole it currently is now. Suicidal Altruistic Syndrome seems to be a thing that infects significantly more women than men.
“Gender Politics”? It’s sex, not gender. Gender is a made up word so queers, transvestites, and all manner of freaks can feel recognized. They all need to go crawl back under the rocks they came from. Goddamn worms!!
good teachable moment … you did good. Actually this election gives me renewed faith in humanity. Why ? Well women make up 60% of the electorate … 54% of the population but since millions of men are arrested and forced to plead guilty to felonies they didn’t commit … they can’t vote. So that skews the vote. And, yes, this is one of the features of our corrupt legal system … eliminate men from voting. Anyway … all it would take is all women to vote for the GIRL and the GIRL wins … ALWAYS. That enough women were able to put aside their in-gender bias and vote for the best candidate or maybe the best leader or maybe the only viable anti-establishment candidate or maybe, just maybe someone who isn’t a crook and corrupt as hell … well … enough women made the correct choice and voted for Trump. That they could put aside their bias and do the right thing … gives me hope.
Me too Mega, me too. I hope it is the sign of good things ahead. An awakening, not a collapse.
I only know one woman IRL who voted for H. I know dozens, dozens, even those of her generation and usually D, who said they would not.
Gives me hope people are not as clueless as it may appear…
“…the only immoral thing is to treat people badly based on their race alone.”
There is many more examples of how this line of thinking caused many tragic things to happen; Rotherham in England, Muslim rapes in Cologne Germany, Muslim rapes in Stockholm fucking Sweden, the whole goddamn Syrian invasion of Europe, the Mexican invasion in the US. This election was only the beginning of a long battle, not the end. Not even close. The problem with women being involved in politics is they don’t realize just how much is at stake. They think it’s all just a silly game.
Labeling people is a useful tool that quickly gets us through the day
Reality is racist
And sexist
George Liquor… I said race ALONE. Rotherham and such was never race alone. Those men should not have been arrested based on their skin color. They should have been arrested based on them being scum.
I would never hold their COLOR against them, that alone is no reason to be rid of them. White people can also become very tan with overexposure to UV. It’s wrong to treat people badly based on race or skin color ALONE.
The color is just an indicator of what kind of people you are likely dealing with. Look at the Portugese: they have many North African features and have long been under North African rule, so they will have mixed racial heritage. But take a holiday in Portugal, and unlike their former oppressors, they will not harass you there.
I’m not saying it is all culture, I have met adopted people who have grown up Westernized but somehow go back to their roots, as it were. And donated organs don’t usually do well for different race recipients. Of course there are differences. But I see no reason or excuse to mistreat anyone based on their race.
I do not think banning them from your country constitutes mistreatment, but I suppose opinions differ there…
(And to ease your mind when it comes to women and politics: my husband decides our vote, we believe in family unity over anything else)
” It’s wrong to treat people badly based on race or skin color ALONE.”
I’m sorry you feel that way, but reality is based on quickly identifying who is one of us and who is one of them. The more you hold your false ideals, the more likely you are to put yourself or someone close to you at risk. It is what it is. But I guess we will just agree to disagree.
Bloom, looks like you’ve been thread jacked into a race discussion, sorry. Anyway, back on track … I was not hopeful going into this election. Tried to sway my mother … failed. She admitted she voted early for Hillary as did younger sis. Sis is a basket case who will vote for whoever provides the most free shit to her. Loser, so not surprised there. Mom is an elderly 2nd wave feminist who thinks a Vagina in the whitehouse would be a crowning achievement. She doesn’t understand how Feminism has twisted out of control and has morphed into man-hate, “yes means yes”, and “trigger warnings”, etc. Can’t blame her for thinking that, she is who she is.
Other sis, I never talked to about the election … but she’s got some smarts (better than mom, other sis) so think she probably figured out Trump was the right choice. But then again … she’s a Feminist who raised her kids the way most of them do … NO DISCIPLINE … and MOM is your BEST FRIEND. In other words, ruined them. Here oldest, a boy, is 24 yrs old and has never worked a day in his life. Spent 5 yrs in college getting a worthless 2 yr degree and lives in his dad’s basement. Her girl is 20 and just dropped out of college and still living at home. No job. So really … who did she vote for ??? Did you say free shit ???
And then there was my new GF. She’s educated, smart, and a free thinker. She’s a Libra … so cool. Tried to sway her to Trump and it was a no-go. She’s gonna make up her own mind thank you … and I accept that. She told me how she confronted a middle aged, white, female trump supporter who came by her house and wanted to plant a sign in the yard. NOPE !!! Told the woman to save her breath and save the cardboard in the sign … its a waste of natural resources !!! Haha, GF is really a Libertarian or maybe even a green party type at heart … just don’t fuck with her … she’ll tell you where to go, haha. Trump lady found out quickly and moved on. Texted the GF last night and buzzed her “Hillary going down, lol !”. She never responded, so guess I know how she voted, lol.
” It’s wrong to treat people badly based on race or skin color ALONE.”
People, not just women who believe this tripe live very sheltered lives.
Guess I should have summed things up. Since most of the women in my life seemed bent on voting for a criminal (Hillary) … I assumed most other women would do the same. I was wrong. GLAD I WAS WRONG. GLAD THAT OBVIOUSLY LOTS OF WOMEN COULD SEE WHAT THE RIGHT THING TO DO WAS …
“Mom, you are supposed to vote for the GIRL”
She picked that up in school. If you don’t want your children to hate boys, especially if they ARE boys, don’t send them to public school. Homeschool or die.
RPG, I assume you will just delete my comments if you object to going off topic 🙂
GLA,
South Africa (and that other one, was it Zimbabwe? With the white genocide) suffered the consequences of treating whites badly based on race alone.
Solving the destabilization of a country by invading hordes is not immoral. If it were the Belgians wreaking havoc like that, we should also rid ourselves of them. Keeping different flavors of hooligans apart, regardless of their race, is also wise if you wish to avoid mayhem.
If a group of people poses no threat, whatever their color, I think it is immoral to bother them.
I would agree to disagree, were it not that I think we do agree, but are miscommunicating.
Electing self declared feminists to public off ice is a mistake. The reason behind it is simple. Half the people they have to represent are men and if Tom, Dick, and Harry want a bridge built and Suzie wants blankets sent to penguins in Antarctica, blankets are going to Antarctica.
RPG,
I am happy that you got through to your daughter. Hillary would have been a disaster.
@hhv I am totally ok w the discussion so long as everyone keeps it civil, doesn’t start going into personal insults.
As for race, I have seen personally, growing up in an Army town w much diversity, that in the end everyone most trust those who look like them. I have seen and experienced outright racism myself, based soley on my skin color and eye color.
I am a lover, not a fighter, so I am all for people getting along. But I also see the reality all around, whites are not the only ones to practice racism. And when that leads to violence against whites bc of their race…. I am not ok w that.
I mean look at what white men have endured the past 20+ years, reverse racism and opportunity. As a white woman (by chance that’s who I was born) I am considered a “minority” yet and have gotten breaks white males do not.
I would love it were we color blind but it just does not seem to be in the programming. Like Ton said, we size people up friend or foe everyday based on a few second impression. If they prove it wrong, great. But it’s a built in protection mechanism…
Are there shitty people of all colors? Yes. Does the exception prove the rule? No. Safer to start off closed then open, then start open and wish you hadn’t.
It’s survival programming. To pretend its “taught” or “wrong” is akin to saying masculinity and femininity are wrong. They are what they are. Doesn’t mean we can’t all find our way in the world…
“If a group of people poses no threat, whatever their color, I think it is immoral to bother them.”
They only pose minimal threat at the moment while being a minority. As soon as they become the majority, the shit gets real really fucking fast. It’s like you blink and all of a sudden legions of them are pouring through fucking shit up everywhere. Multiculturalism is a host group that allows other non assimilating groups to live in parallel in the host group’s land until the non assimilating other groups become majority and take over. It has happened numerous times in the past. Thank you, Bloom for backing me up on this.
By the way, there is no such thing as reverse racism, but I know what you’re trying to say. The toxic multicult culture says only white people can be racist, but we all know it goes both ways and the people who say it doesn’t are manipulative lying sacks of shit trying to pull a fast one and induce white guilt so they can walk all over us some more.
“(and that other one, was it Zimbabwe?” Rhodesia, but yes, it is Zimbabwe now.
” If it were the Belgians wreaking havoc like that,” LoL Oh my goodness. Wow, just wow, I can’t, I can’t even…. LOL
@GLA As an American, and an Army brat, I was raised with diversity. And in an age that if a child of a service member said anything racist, it could impact your parent’s career. So I was raised on purpose to be more color blind than most, probably. And I have friends and acquaintances of all demographics.
But there is something to the idea of being “French” or “Irish” or “Spanish” or “Mexican” or “insert country name here.”
And it doesn’t stop there. A friend from England nce told me that they could tell the difference in accent from the NEXT NEIGHBORHOOD OVER! So even within a nation, there is “other-ness” and “we-ness.”
The human brain tends to think in a binary way, this or that, in or out, same or different, old or young, male or female, etc.” All day long we do it in a nanosecond.
Or to put it another way. Different can equal huge threat, historically. Invader or invaded. Still can, as is clearly seen in numerous war torn nations right now.
I don’t think there is any more “unlearning” that than there is “unlearning” that boys and girls are different…
Yes, we are all human beings. But we are also human beings of descent from where we are from, and the traits and customs and worldviews of those areas where our kin either reproduced or not for generations upon generations.
Or, if one wants a biblical perspective, it says we were once all one. But then man schemed against God, thought they didn’t need God, built a tower to become like God. And it was not good. And God physically separated the lands and the people and languages. Babylon.
I could go on and one but in short, yes I wish we were all one, but reality is reality. To make it taboo to discuss does not change it.
Personally I do not believe in violence unless and until it onvolves me or my kids or someone I love, and then I would not hesitate to choose violence to protect them. I’d die for them, gladly. That doesn’t make sense logically and yet in an instant and on a gut level people act on that reasoning all the time…
I dunno. I am not sure I am explaining it well, what I am saying. Different isn’t wrong or right. It’s just different. To claim its all the same kinda insults the differences and uniqueness of humanity, no?
It’s not a hate thing… in short.
I have tried to explain further but keep deleting it because it is difficult to explain. So I will leave my thoughts there and hopefully I have done a half-arse job of explaining my pov? 🙂
RPG,
Perhaps you are demonstrating a principle. A wise man will keep his eyes and ears open and his mouth shut. I find that I can learn more that way.
As to racism. I watched a series on the the American Revolution recently. When George Washington got to where the Continental Army was outside of Boston, he found that a quarter of his men were free men of color. His eyes had to come out on stems as a slave holder from Virginia.
“It’s not a hate thing… in short.”
It most certainly is. Diversity breeds a low trust environment and animosity. Diversity + Proximity = War.
GLA (sticks in the shiv….)
Ok, fine… what do I know? I can hardly use an electric screwdriver! Lol.
La la la…
GLA: Is it a hate thing, or a reality thing? A formed over millennia thing?
But seriously, I am a total idiot, and more so with age, but I mean well and do try…. lol. Sorta!
“I dunno. I am not sure I am explaining it well, what I am saying.”
Not trying to be snarky, but I noticed. 😛
Ha ha ha GLA, you got me there! 😉
It is a hard thing to put into words. It is part of how we view the world, is it not? Imagine there was no “France” or no “XYZABCD” but just grey masses? Not that we cannot learn from each other but “viva la differance?”
Or something… la la la
Americans have a uniquely weird experience, I think: For example I am 25% Czech, 25% Dane, and the other(Mayflower) half English, German, French, and French-Canadian (aka French/Native American.) Perhaps that is part of the confusion? I dunno, I am just a girl of the world…. lol
“Is it a hate thing, or a reality thing?” It’s biological determinism, so nature/reality, yeah.
“Americans have a uniquely weird experience, I think: For example I am 25% Czech, 25% Dane, and the other(Mayflower) half English, German, French, and French-Canadian (aka French/Native American.) Perhaps that is part of the confusion? I dunno, I am just a girl of the world…. lol” They’re all white save the Amerindian. Americans may be of different ethnicity, but we all speak English >>> unifying cultural language… White cultural language.
GLA My Danish grandmother said, her parents spoke the old language but would not speak it to the children so she never learned it.
I kinda wish I was bilingual, to be honest, but I think at that time…. that was the way. You moved to a country. You learned their ways.
The French Canadian thing is kinda family myth, not sure it is true…
I’m an Irishman, 3rd generation American.
“The French Canadian thing is kinda family myth, not sure it is true” Quebec?
No, west coast northern.. via cape horn.
“I kinda wish I was bilingual,” I’m still trying to learn Spanish.. There is a very large latino population where I live.
That would be on my maternal grandmother’s side…who also date from some of the very first pioneers in the area…
Buneos diaz, senor!
Buenos noches I mean, sorry! Lol!
Bonne nuit
I am going to stop incriminating myself now (for 5 seconds anyway!)
You Trump people… deplorables! lol 🙂
Les Deplorables. Hasta, luago senorita RPG.:-P
Les deplorables!!!!
“she will remember to always to consider the character”
She will if you have done so, not said.
You did good. An above-average answer on short notice,
Indeed, Saracen. I am well aware that I am a role model to my girls. Not just in words but much so more in action…. I write this to them, and to myself at their age…. I did not know what I did not know….
I love that you taught your daughter not to just vote for the “girl” because she was a woman. Who we elect as our president should have nothing to do with their gender or race.
There is a new post at Spawny’s
https://spawnyspace.wordpress.com/2016/11/10/fully-developed/
It might be time for a bear video. This one will cheer up the Hillary fans. While it is high tension, in more than one way, everyone comes out all right, including the bear.
I don’t go as far as calling him racist, sexist, or misogynistic.
However, his conduct and behavior isn’t respectable to me, and it’s definitely not the character of someone who is a positive role model for the country.
I’m willing to accept him as the President as for right now and give him the benefit of a doubt that he will learn to become more humbled and professional in the future as he learns of his responsibilities to serve the people for the betterment of everyone.
He’ll however have to ignore Pence because that man royally screwed up my state and he’s just a piece of you know what in my view. Sorry but Pence has no business being on power. He’s ill.
Ashley,
Looking at all those Hillary supporters having meltdowns, I don’t think it is because they are afraid of what Donald Trump will do. I have to wonder what they were expecting Hillary yo do? I knew that she would give away the store but, i had no idea what they were expecting. It’s bad enough on men now.