Something supporters of making America great again should beware is falling for the bait.
By falling for the bait, I mean acting exactly like the other camp and the media wants so they can use that in their ongoing smear campaign.
Trust me, they would love nothing more than to publish quotes from people mouthing off or to publish photos of people acting like haters or facists. It backs up their narrative. Just don’t. Encourage others to avoid doing the same.
Don’t give them what they want. Let the other side continue to rant and rave and end up in the news for their ridiculousness.
Better to say nothing than to say exactly what they want. Or even to say something they can twist into exactly what they want. And trust me, if they can, they will.
Stoic and steadfast silence is a form of free speech, and there are times when it can say as much or more than a million words.
This may be a good idea since Thanksgiving is tomorrow. I read a post from Helen Smith about how politics has split up on family. The daughter is staying in Boston and her mother is is Maine.
By the way, to everyone, Happy Thanksgiving!
I hate to break it to you, but you are being terribly naive. We had a video in the news of a Wilders supporter saying like “all Turks should go back go Casablanca” (a city in Maroc). Now that does make Wilders fanbase look deplorable. Rightwing weblog Geenstijl (basically the mainstreamiest alternative to mainstream) found pictures of that specific ‘Wilders supporter’ at a leftist extremist protest. Ie., they troll to make rightwingers look bad. But the mainstream never picks up the follow up. Several stories from muslimas claiming to have their hijab torn off turned out to be hoaxes, but the mainstream never follow up when word comes out.
It doesn’t matter if every Trump supporter is a picture of poise and dignity. They pay people to riot, they pay people to start fights. They don’t even NEED to pay people to troll. Only thing against fighting dirty you can do, is share the info that exposes them.
And indeed happy Thanksgiving.
Well then, perhaps they can be exposed with poise and dignity? I dunno…
Everything will come to light, but sometimes you need to push the lamp in their faces 😉
In a dignified manner, of course! (Pinkies up)
A lamp, or is a mirror better?
Don’t have a hater or fascist mentality and not acting like a hater or a fascist shouldn’t be a problem.
Sometimes a quiet war is far more successful. ‘Punch back twice as hard’ only seems superior until it’s understood that ‘turn the other cheek’ is not a call to pacifism, but psychological warfare.
“Everything will come to light, but sometimes you need to push the lamp in their faces”
I like this version better because it has more teeth, “If you can’t make them see the light, burn them by it.”
🙂
Ash, it once was that simple. Except as the line of what “hater” or “fascist” was pushed ever further, and since that line can change on a whim, yesterday’s moderate becomes today’s fascist even if they haven’t changed. So what then?
Perhaps GLA, but I do not see the advantage of agitating right now. I say patience, let the transition happen. The man has been elected, let him lead the way. Chaos right now only serves the other side. Anyone agitating in fact, should be suspect as to their motives… IMHO.
Bloom, gonna ask this in all seriousness so hope you respond in kind. I’ve had a GF for the last few months … we are both older as in older than you (50s) and frankly we get along pretty damn good. No, we get along great … outside of bed. In bed, we get along pretty well there too. So in total … yeah, pretty damn good. Except for one thing … politics. I’m pro Trump and taking our country back. Throwing out the faggots and trannies and feminists and illegal immigrants. What Trump showed was it time for men to STOP being quiet and going along with the faggots, liars, haters and START STANDING UP and saying their shit is WRONG.
So the new girl is brainwashed … believes the Feminist, progressive lies and bullshit. Yep … 1 + 1 = 5, 273 !!!! Sorry, but … NO, IT DOESN”T AND I NO LONGER HAVE THE SELF RESTRAINT TO TELL YOU … THAT YOUR ARE A BRAINWASHED FAGGOT RETARD AND THAT … 1 + 1 = 2 YEP … IT”S TWO YOU FUCKING FAGGOT !!! SO JUST SHUT THE FUCK UP AND GO AWAY !!!
So .. yeah its getting to the point that I am ready to just call it quits. ARE ALL WOMEN THIS FUCKING STUPID ??? She’s over 50 and has met a great guy (me)… and she’s ready to flush it all down the toilet because FAGGOTS DESERVE TO GET MARRIED AND TRUMP IS A NAZI !!! And I tried to not bring Race into the discussion which is what all the man-haters try to do … SEE !!! HE hates blacks and mexicans !!!
So, Ms Bloom the question is … are all woment his fucked up in the head ? Do they all believe the bullshit that the liars in the media push ? Is it possible to confront someone who has been brainwash by the lies and teach them the truth ? Is that possible ? Or is it advisable to just walk away.
Frankly after the current political situation I am inclined to agree with some pretty obscure opinions. Namely … women should never have been given the right to vote and maybe now its time to take it away. If it wasn’t for the fact that MSM acts to pushed the progressive agend 24/7 … every hour, every day, every week, for months, years, decades. PUSH THE LIES … UNTIL PEOPLE BELIEVE THEM … 1 + 1 = WHATEVER THE LIARS WANT YOU TO BELIEVE !!!
But its a serious question. Are women who have been brainwashed in this fashion … recoverable ? So I just end it now before it gets any further ? Am I wasting my time ?
Please give me a woman’s perspective ? What makes them believe that Mr Trump is actually going to go around and grab women by the pussy. All of them. He sees a woman … he’s heading in to grab. He’s done it for years, decades. Every women he sees … he grabs their pussy. For women … what does it take to see how fucked up in the head you are. NONE OF THIS HAS HAPPENED OR WILL EVER HAPPEN. And if you get into a relationship with someone so fucked up in the head that they think that is real … SHOULD YOU JUST GET THE FUCK OUT WHILE YOU CAN ????
The narrative has been weaponised, and 5 out of 6 ? women are lost to it.
You are flogging a dead horse. Walk away.
Leave them to the collective echo chamber. Another decade should do it.
Mega, I’m not the one you addressed and 20 years your junior, but as a woman I still feel you might enjoy my perspective.
I say let the feminist go. If she reforms, she can prove it to you before you take her back. Never trust a feminist with you heart, because she believes she has a right to crush it. Feminism is inherently opposed to pleasing a man.
Not at all do all women believe the lefty main stream. But the ones with eyes open often keep their heads down. I would lose treasured playmates for my kids if I was too open about my views, their parents would shun me. If you want a woman who shares your values, volunteer your own and gauge her reactions.
(Oh blessed internet, giving me such chances to offer unsollicited advise and meddle in peoples business)
Women having political views is harmless, so long as men decide the vote. But it’s dangerous to indulge these fancies when we have been brainwashed to be against everything that is beneficial to us.
Bloom, I’m not the type to go out of my way to seek trouble, but when it finds me and I’m backed up against a wall, I’m going to fight. People who usually rail on about “haters and fascists” are generally projecting their dogmatic degenerate hate for normalcy onto people who would more often than not leave them alone. So when push comes to shove, they act all butt hurt when someone pushes back. All talk of unity and coming together is disingenuous at best. Besides, it is the leftist antifas that infiltrate opposition and commit hooliganism 99.99% of the time.
THE WRATH OF THE AWAKENED SAXON
by Rudyard Kipling
It was not part of their blood,
It came to them very late,
With long arrears to make good,
When the Saxon began to hate.
They were not easily moved,
They were icy — willing to wait
Till every count should be proved,
Ere the Saxon began to hate.
Their voices were even and low.
Their eyes were level and straight.
There was neither sign nor show
When the Saxon began to hate.
It was not preached to the crowd.
It was not taught by the state.
No man spoke it aloud
When the Saxon began to hate.
It was not suddently bred.
It will not swiftly abate.
Through the chilled years ahead,
When Time shall count from the date
That the Saxon began to hate.
“This destiny does not tire, nor can it be broken, and its mantle of
strength descends upon those in its service.” – Francis Parker Yockey,
IMPERIUM
Mega,
While I could see that this election would drive a wedge between men and women, I didn’t think it would go beyond the election. They are sore losers. This stuff is breaking up families, at least for Thanksgiving dinner, and it is breaking up couples. I think you have two ways to go. First, call it quits as HHW advises and see if she relents or, second, wait it out. It may help to tell the lady that four more years of profligate tax and spend would come out of the pockets of people who work for a living. Another thing, ask her if she sees you doing any of those things that she is all too quick to accuse Trump of doing.
I think that I need to work on my table manners. Happy Thanksgiving!
Mega, since I have taken the red pill I have found dating non red pillers to just not work very well. (For example guys trying to tell me how women *need* feminism and that its 100% good for all.) I tried a few times to drop hints or tell red pill stories to infirectly influence change and such, but that didnt work, either. I finally decided I could only date red pill guys who understood all this already. I’d agree w HHW that easier to find someone already aligned w you than to change someone.
RPG, I’m curious, do you find the majority of guys to be like that (blue pill pro feminist)? Because it’s exceedingly rare here to find a man who identifies as a feminist. I have met only one and he is the subject of much ridicule.
@Mega; WTF are you even doing dating chicks your own age? You should be going younger.
As for this: . “Are women who have been brainwashed in this fashion … recoverable ? So I just end it now before it gets any further ? Am I wasting my time ?”
Answer to question 1 depends on how old she is. If she is in her early 20’s, maybe she could be recovered, but 25+, no fucking way.
Answers to questions 2 & 3, Yes.
I know you were asking for a woman’s perspective, but that’s part of your problem right there. Hope that helps, bro.
And Bloom, even if everything goes to shit which there is a real possibility that it might, it was bound to happen anyway
😉
HHW, these guys wouldn’t necessarily identify as feminist, but bc the culture is so geared that was in the US from the time they were young, many hold such beliefs wo even knowing it. Knowing I need a man who I can trust to lead vs. a man who wants us to co-lead or for me to lead, I would suss it out early, like first date or before it even got to a date. I have found you can’t “teach” a guy to lead (I tried that) probably like you can’t teach a gal to not fight for the lead if she thinks that way. If a guy wants me to lead, it’s a big turn off and it’s just not gonna work. Many otherwise great guys have been brainwashed this way, to let the woman lead. Just like women have been brainwashed the opposite. Men like a bossy domineering woman about as much as women like a deferring submissive man. The blue pill dynamic just doesn’t work…
Farm Boy has written a new post at Spawny’s Space. It analyzes the failure of Hillary Clinton and the women who didn’t vote for her.
https://spawnyspace.wordpress.com/2016/11/26/internalized-misogyny/#comment-70777
Farm Boy has written a new post. This time, it is about women voting.
https://spawnyspace.wordpress.com/2016/11/28/end-womens-suffrage/
I’m a coloured woman, and I like using my voice to its full capabilities to endorse our new president.