Ok, I know this is somewhat off topic, but the more I dive into the red pill, the more it seems to be about a lot more than male/female dynamics to me — more about society and culture overall.
So with that said, what the heck is this business about some of the electoral college voters deciding how to vote on their own, versus voting what their state voted? Has this ever happened before? Does anyone know the legalities of this?
I find it seriously, seriously troubling. The electoral college system may not be perfect, but it seems to compensate for the rural/urban divide and give all regions a voice.
It seems to me people already mistrust the system to be working for them (rather than the powers who be) enough. Do we really need electoral college voters going their own way with things to add to that?
What do you think?
(Note the effort to ignore the Brexit vote in the UK that are underway as well… not very democratic?!?)
A quick read-around:
a) he is within his rights
b) he never asserted outright that he would vote for Trump
c) he is proposing to vote for another Republican
Freedom is the right to be wrong
Saracen, thanks for the weigh in! Interesting points…
Still seems weird to me but it’s a weird world! Do you know if that’s ever happened before?
Oaths they did take.
Follow them they should
By state law, he actually has to vote according to how the people in his state voted. However, there is no such stipulation in the Constitution, so any lawsuit may result in him being justified.
And yes, this has happened before. It happened in 2000 and in 2004, as well as in elections before that. It’s called being a ‘faithless elector’. Google that phrase and you’ll get the full rundown and the history.
Posted in the other thread … yeah, a few days late. Just wanted to say bye and make sure you saw it.
Good luck,
Mega
If it is just one, that can’t be much of a problem. If it is enough to change the outcome, that is very much a problem. Yoda said he is under oath. He should be held to it and keep faith with his state’s voters. A republic is a much more fragile thing that people think.
Sisneros, selected at this year’s state Republican convention as his congressional district’s member of the Electoral College, was morally and politically conflicted because he had signed an oath to back the party’s nominee as an elector but could not bring himself to back the man the party selected.
An oath he did take
http://www.mystatesman.com/news/local/herman-texas-electoral-college-member-quit-over-donald-trump-vote/R5xOcXtR66kCK62IBqsPXJ/
The GOP can sue Elector Suprun in civil court for beach of promise, the State of Texas can prosecute for fraud and possibly breach of election law.
But if not so challenged by December 13 his vote, faithless or not, is valid.
Voters are completely free to elect gormless spineless clueless ignorant and fearful representatives if they so choose. Such is democracy.
Off topic but maybe Bloom can find a post in it.
After all her calling is to stop women being stupid
http://news.nationalpost.com/health/i-thought-id-made-peace-with-not-having-a-child-then-i-fell-in-love-at-47-at-54-it-finally-hit-me-its-too-late
And in other news men are always guilty cause women never lie.
http://news.nationalpost.com/news/world/woman-impersonates-ex-boyfriend-on-facebook-so-she-can-frame-him-by-sending-herself-death-threats
The fact that this is front page article shows
A) how far the open FI agenda has gone
B) the average 20 something male cannot avoid knowing about A)
C) where have all the marriageable men gone? Really? You have to ask?
And the Post gets the trifecta
http://news.nationalpost.com/health/c-sections-evolving-bigger-babies-that-cant-squeeze-through-narrower-pelvises-study-suggests
Seems FI CAN override men’s biological imperitives given time.
We’ll just artificially breed healthy wide hipped women out of the gene pool!!
Aaaaaaand it must be a slow news day.
All of these are links on Canada’s right wing newspaper’s front webpage
(Conrad Black owned it for years)
As a conservative man I’m speechless.
I remember when Dick Van Dyke had to sleep in a twin bed with his wife or it was scandelous. Now this???
http://news.nationalpost.com/arts/celebrity/tom-ford-still-believes-all-men-should-be-penetrated-by-another-man-at-some-point-in-their-lives
Eeeewwwwww.
I don’t think it’s to do with narrow hips, more with giant babies. There is a breed of cow that can only give birth to c sections already.
I have heard. that for humans, the limiting feature is the size of the baby’s head. I guess we aren’t very well evolved when birthing is such an extreme matter. It isn’t for other mammals. Taking exception to HHW’s cattle. That is cruel that that should happen. Nature certainly wouldn’t plan it that way. If Farm Boy is reading, maybe he knows more.
Horseman,
As for your last link from the National Post, They put that stuff up front and center where schoolkids can see it? I think schoolkids will be thinking they have a screw loose somewhere.
Actually fuzzie, it’s such for humans because of our brain size. Then the infant brain grows at a remarkable pace, something like doubles, in the first two years! Most of their calorie intake goes to this brain growth, which is why breast milk (and formula) has such a high fat content. By the time they are toddlers the brain is as large as it will be (that’s why two year olds have those adorable little bodies, big heads.) The rest of the body catches up over the next 16 or so years. Weird, huh? I read a lot of child development books when I was expecting my own… 🍼🚼
RPG,
It is weird. We are unique among mammals in a lot of ways but that is another huge divergence.
Lol Fuzzie. Sometimes I wonder if that big brain helps us out, or just makes our lives too complicated! I think bears have things much easier, they just go about being bears and don’t overthink it!
Bears do have big heads but, I think you are right, they are not given to overthink things.
Looks like he’s not only a faithless elector… http://gotnews.com/exposed-anti-trump-faithless-elector-thechrissuprun-paid-ashley-madison-bankrupt-married-w-3-kids/
More skeletons in the faithless elector’s closet it seems… http://www.youngcons.com/remember-the-tx-elector-who-abandoned-trump-turns-out-hes-been-hiding-a-damning-secret/