Before the red pill, like most blue pill folk I thought equality movements were really about equality — that the goal was that everyone regardless of class, or race, or sex, or (insert XYZ factor here) would have equal opportunity.
But more and more I see “equality movements” today seem to be less about that, and more about the once oppressed seeking to become the new oppressors.
Two wrongs don’t make a right. Two wrongs just make everything that much worse.
it’s never about equal rights. it’s always about special rights.
it’s never about earning something on your own merits. it’s about being given the advantages at the expense of others.
it’s like this:
FML so true. However, that will never work. I don’t get how people don’t see that, if anything these movements increase animosity and inequality!
because they really don’t care, as long as they get their cut. as long as they get some added benefit, they don’t care that someone else has to pay.
It’s true they don’t care (understand?) at the time, but if one thinks it out… it doesn’t work, it will never work.
they don’t care, as long as it works for them right now.
and when it stops going their way?
a bunch of idiots from Hollywood will make a commercial demanding that Congress do something about it.
and the commercial will be full of anger and rage, because that’s the only way left knows how to react. with The threat of and actual violence.
FML and meanwhile the rest of us (bang head against wall)
Saying “reverse privilege” is as retarded as saying “reverse racism.” Racism is racism and privilege is privilege. It’s a two-way street. This isn’t some big secret. Everyone with at least two brain cells rubbing together can grasp this. It’s just politically correct cunts being cunts.
Wait… belay my last at least the privilege part.
Agreed GLA, reverse privliege is just the same as (insert X) privilege. That’s what I was trying to say…
Privilege is always one way, but can be taken away. But saying ”reverse privilege” sounds like taking it away. Maybe you meant to say “redistributive privilege”?
“retro-active privilege”?
my head hurts, I’m gonna walk away from the computer for awhile while the gettin’ is good.
@GLA lol!
Well at least it seems like today, tsanity prevails and #AllLawsMatter. http://wgntv.com/2017/01/05/4-charged-with-hate-crime-in-facebook-live-torture-of-man-with-special-needs/
p.s Live streaming yourself committing crimes is not too bright. Luckily, most criminals are not too bright.
They are not even groups. Not all gay people are LGBT activists, not all blacks are BLM activists, not all women are feminists etc. It’s some people, who proclaim themselves to be representatives of those groups, “sell” the idea that the group they represent is victimised to the state via the media to later use this as a shield from critics and a leverage in their bold demands for political representation.
The basis for this is identity politics: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Identity_politics
It was tremendously effective in the short-run, allowing to assemble caucuses and mass support for underrepresented minorities. But now it’s clearly destructive, disuniting people among the country, forcing other people to adopt identities (i.e. white men) with possibly devastating results for minorities. Effectively, most minority groups now “othered” themselves from the rest of a society. Every ethnical cleansing, every genocide, every civil war always starts with “othering” groups of people, selling the idea that they’re lesser human being that deserve everything that comes their way, and then some more.
We were used to be citizens of one country (and followers of one religion). Not anymore. Now we are whites, blacks, gays, hetheros, Muslims, Christians, atheists etc, and every group consider everyone else to be their enemies.
@ Sergy, yes it is not good, this “other ing,” this is only accelerating things in a bad direction. I hope people’s awareness of this will grow and we can head things back to a less negative place. People always ask, how do these atrocities happen? This is how, things go too far from center and then it can just snap.
Its easier to harm a them.
I didnt punch Steve, I stopped a blah blah from committing the horrendous act of (stuff i dont like) cause you know sooner or later he would cause all blah blahs are like that.
Only good thing about canada. We dont have hyphens
No african-canadians etc.
Even the “french canadians” go by quebeqious.
Where is Canada? (Kidding!) 😉
it’s somewhere on the right:
or maybe on the left somewhere. doesn’t really matter…
horseman, we are of course joking! But it is true, despite our sharing a border, what’s happening in Canada rarely makes the news in the US. But then again, Americans tend to be out of touch with International happenings in general
Sadly…
@mgtowhorseman
How about Chinese-Canadians in Vancouver? 🙂
@RPG
American people urgently need a sense of shared belonging or struggle, to mend the broken fabric of society. I can only hope your polititians will not decide to create it by going to war with Russia.
Agreed Sergy, that would not be good at all. I do get a sense someone is fostering chaos… baiting people.We must be smarter than that!
Belarus:
Taxes 12% Flat Rate.
Unemployment 1%
Welfare State.
Private economy in Service Sector.
State economy in Industry Sector and Primary Sector.
Most people owe a dacha in the countryside besides a flat in town.
Highways.
Good trains.
Everything works perfect. And punctual.
Probably one of the cleanest countries in the world.
Femen fired out of the country.
White people 100%.
Slavic Pride.
Orthodox Church has an important place in society.
Zero crime.
Family life.
So many parks, and forests.
Terrific architecture.
People love going to the ballet and to the theatre to watch plays.
Ice Hockey is the national sport.
Terrific sense of patriotism.
Army is a deeply respected institution.
Besides, you can go and eat a borsch and strogonoff and then later have some vodkas.
Belarus… the Axis of Evil !!!!!! So scary.
This reminds me of Sunshine Mary’s description of the first to be “othered”. White, male, straight, an Christian.
There is a new post at Spawny’s
https://spawnyspace.wordpress.com/2017/01/07/reality-came-a-calling/
So I will continue my rant from last night … where I declared that most middle aged women are mentally ill … lol. Yeah … I actually said that. And its true. So thought about this today and how to say it and hope the message gets thru. And its this, most middle aged women are mentally ill because they spend years trying to destroy their own children. Yep they are on a mission … and dedicate their lives to ruining the lives of their own children. So, yeah. Its sick and fucked up. And that makes them mentally ill. Yes, I’ve seen this time and time again. And I’ve given this lots of thought and think I actually figured out some of it. And, yeah, its based on the teachings of Rollo and TRM. He’s all about how HUMANS are human animals and are controlled by their genetics, hormones, biology, pre-determined behavior, etc. Many men, but almost all women … act according to their biology and “MOST” are too stupid to ever recognize it. THEY JUST DO. Men are much, much better at stepping back and looking at the big picture … women rarely do this. In some ways I think they are incapable of doing it.
Ok, harsh words. Most women are insane and are too stupid to know it. Yikes. How did I come to this conclusion ? While I won’t got to Dalrocks level and cite references … much the data backs this up. I’m talking about economics and the NUMBER OF MILLENNIUMS LIVING AT A HOME; SPECIFICALLY MEN/BOYS. Google it. WHY ARE SINGLE MOM”S REFUSING TO MAKE THEIR KIDS GROW UP AND BE ADULTS ????? Just baffled the hell out of me and I gave it a lot of though.
I’ve met numerous divorced moms. Ejected the father from the home … threatened him with jail if he didn’t pay and let her decide everything and it went on for years and years. But as the “kid” got older and older … her fucked up behavior just got worse and worse. Boys … 22 yrs old … 24 yrs old, 28 yrs old, 30 yrs old, etc. Still living at home … with “MOM”. And these stupid cunts still treat these “MEN” like they are 12. They do their laundry. Buy food for them. Cook for them. Clean for them. Even pick out their clothes for them. I knew one woman who literally went into the basement once a week and cleaned the toilet for her 28 yr old son who still lived there. AND WHY WOULDN”T HE ???? Why get a job ? Why make a career ? Why get girlfriend. Why get married. Why have kids. Why be responsible and ACT LIKE AN ADULT … when MOM is still there to wipe my ass ?
Yeah … the truth. These women are RUINING their kids lives. The Bible taught a very important lesson … YOUR HUSBAND IS FOREVER … YOUR KIDS ARE TEMPORARY … SO PUT YOUR HUSBAND FIRST. Good lesson … completely lost today. But the idea was … your job as a parent was to teach your children to be a responsible adult, that your child would grow up, move out, get married, have kids of their own. This happened at a young age too (compared to date). Girls were married at 16 and boys at 18. This concept … YOUR JOB AS A PARENT IS TO PREPARE YOUR KIDS TO BE ADULTS … is completely lost on women today. AND THAT MAKES THEM MENTALLY ILL.
And I’ve noticed this particularly with boys (men). Girls … NOT SO MUCH. Why ? Well, the way I figure it … girls (women) don’t want “MOM” to know how much of a SLUT she is being riding the CC. Kinda hard to be living in mom’s basement and having a different “boyfriend” every week without “mom” knowing. And, again, one lesson I learned in this journey is that women SLUT-SHAME … not men. And a mom would be the worse shame of them all. MOM: I’ve noticed a different man leaving every week for the last 3 months … So, anyway … girls … ain’t hanging around in mom’s basement till they are 35 … but boys are … WHY ????
Better split this into 2 parts … hope folks can follow:
Part 2:
Ok, so figured some shit out and just trying to spill the beans. Hoping the universe “gets it”. My girl was over last weekend and spent the night. We’ve done a few times and its cool. She loves to snuggle and she stripped her panties off before coming to bed last time, so was sleeping naked. She teased me … cause she wanted to know how long it took me to figure it out, lol. Longer than I would have thought, but it was late. Anyway, she mentioned one thing to me that other divorced mom’s have said … THEY FEEL SAFE HAVING A MAN IN BED WITH THEM. AND THE LIGHT WENT ON.
Single mothers want their male children around because they don’t have a husband. AND THEY DON”T FEEL SAFE. So better to have their 30 yr old kid in the basement THAN NOBODY. HOW DOES THAT MAKE THEM INSANE ?
Well, see … in centuries past if a viable female was alone … a man could actually rape her and there was little she could do. Men are stronger and more violent. Men know that, women know that. But in today’s world ? Not a chance in hell a man could get away with raping a woman. Security cameras everywhere … and especially DNA evidence, hair samples. A man rapes a woman today AND HE GETS CAUGHT. Which is why rape in the US is at an all time low.
There is no “RAPE-CULTURE” and never has been. Another MYTH by lying Feminists. Here is the truth: Decades ago before women had the right to vote … RAPE was a crime. And in Muslim societies today … which has the WORST WOMEN”S RIGHTS ON THE PLANET … RAPE … IS A CRIME. The truth is MEN hate RAPISTS … just as much as WOMEN DO. Even worse, maybe. See … a RAPIST is no better than a CHILD MOLESTOR IN MEN”S EYES. MEN WANT TO KILL THEM. AND THEY DO. A Rapist who is sent to prison in the West is tormented, tortured, and in many cases killed in prison. And even if a rapist survives prison … he will be on the sex offender list FOR LIFE. Who’s going to hire him ? Most men on the sex offender list can’t even find a place to live. FOREVER.
So, yea, a rapist today is going to get caught and I didn’t need to mention it … many of them kill themselves to end their suffering.
But it doesn’t end there. See technology is an awesome thing. Women have more FIREPOWER available to them than any time in history. So if a woman actually thinks that a man COULD RAPE HER AND GET AWAY WITH IT … she has more defence than anyone in all of human history. Ever hear of a “LADY-SMITH” ? Its a small revolver made for women, holds about 5 rounds, including a 357 magnum. Yep for about 400 bucks a woman can have a weapon that will stop a Grizzly bear at 10 ft.
So how does that make women mentally ill ? First, there is no rape culture and never has been. Second … even if a woman had a chance of being raped there is simple, cheap, solution to solving that. KILL THE BASTARD … there were 37 million guns sold in the US last year. And I didn’t mention this because I didn’t want to offend … but with the obesity epidemic among women … SERIOUSLY, WHAT MAN WANTS TO HAVE SEX WITH A 300 LB WOMAN ? And I didn’t want to say this either, but for women … do you even know how good online porn is ? Any idea ? If a man wants to get off and has a connection to the internet … takes him about 30 seconds to find a Victoria’s Secret model WHO WILL DO ANY SEX ACT ON THE PLANET. Why would he want sex with 40 yr some something that weighs 300 lbs? Trust me … you got nothing to worry about.
So … does this make most women mentally ill ? Why yes it does. WHO THE HELL WOULD DESTROY THE LIVES OF THEIR OWN CHILDREN … when any rational person with 1/2 a brain would realize that they have nothing to fear. Again … RUIN … FUCKING RUIN .. THEIR OWN CHILDREN”S LIVES … FOR DECADES… all over some stupid fear … fear of men that has no basis in reality.
Interesting Mega, I have seen this “Not encouraging sons to become adults” in single and even married (but unhappy) women. I wonder if they are in some way wanting “a man in the house” even if he’s not a “man” but stuck at age 12 developmentally? Or is it because these guys have no incentive to seek women out, as they are either on the CC or would reject them as not “apex enough?” Hard to say but worth pondering what is really going on here? And agreed, I think it’s a “killing them with kindness” thing vs. a “plan” consciously, anyway.
In prior discussions the guys have said that really, a mom simply CAN’T teach her son to be a man, only another man can. Women will coddle a boy from reality in a way fathers often don’t (unless they themselves are so conditioned to shun “masculinity” that they don’t encourage this in sons?
As for moms and daughters, I wonder if moms and daughters have more friction/petty drama and thus eventually don’t want to live together? Or maybe a woman CAN raise a daughter to grow up (even if that’s too often grow up into a woman not fit for marriage?)
Interesting… will ponder… could be a future post, even!
I kind of touched on this idea of a “man in the house” in my last comment before reading your second one.
Lots of good stuff to think about here! Food for thought.
I generally agree with the post, but isn’t it just more-or-less repeating what you wrote in the previous one? At any rate, it is not quite the ‘once oppressed seeking to become the new oppressors’, because it is based on retribution for previous generations, e.g. feminists blaming men who have come of voting age since equality legislation was introduced (more than four decades ago in Britain), for discrimination that existed prior to then; and so on ..
@dissent angle, welcome! Yes, I do understand that, but at what point is the past “over?” How long do men “owe” women for things that while not ok today were what they were at the time, none of us were there, we can’t change the past… When do we lay down the old, live in the now, move toward the future? I truly say this with empathy and respect… How can we, as women, as a society, move past “it’s bc of men?” Or the same could be said for race relations, other such movements… Have we achieved “women’s rights” and “civil rights” yet and if so what now? If not, what else is needed? Doubling down on past stuff, how does that help anything? Ya get what I am trying to say?
Also, to explain the background, I wrote this post in response to the video of the Chicago kidnapping video… Such senseless violence. How does such things help advance us? They don’t, right? I really feel for that kid, not bc he is a man or bc he is white or bc of his political beliefs, but simply as a person. And I hope those who hurt him look within, how did they get there? Tragic all around. 😦
One thing to add to Mega’s rant. Daughters move out because they can find boyfriends to move in with. The reverse is not an option for sons. Also, Blurkel brought up that his kids are still living with him. He is in California and rent is sky high while jobs that can cover it are thin.
@ Mega
Do like me: go with the hookers. The problem is that they are not legal in the US.
I have the perfect MGTOW life. I live a village by the mountains, 45 five minutes from big town. I have my fireplace, a couple of dogs, a little garden, my books and my peace.
Then, once or twice a week I take the train to big town and go with the hookers. Plenty of them.
The funny thing, talking about middle aged women, is that milf hookers are hot as hell. I´d rather go with milfs that with the young ones.
Whoever said the women age like milk had no clue. Hot women age like wine.
Mega,
It sounds like she kind of likes you. I hope that it all works out.
Thanks fuzzie … I like her too … and I hope it works out too. Kinda of a weird deal with her. We get along great as equals … till it comes to sex, when she expects me to take control. So its a weird dynamic … but its worked well so far. THANKS TO ME TAKING THE RP. If it wasn’t for that … I still think we’d get along great… except for sex … which probably wouldn’t have happen or if it did, wouldn’t be any good. SO ..SOME REAL WORLD STATS: last 3 weekends, she’s stayed over each Sat night. Last weekend we had sex 3 times. The 2 times before, 4x. And not trying to Bragg When she comes over we have sex, eat dinner, and then have sex again and then hang out, watch a movie, etc and then have sex again. Then go to bed. Wake up in the am and have sex again. Since i’m a male and I keep stats, 4 times in a 14 hr period … seems to be pretty damn good … especially several weeks in a row, …. lol.
But she’s a weird fish. Sometimes she orgasm like crazy. Other times … its nice but she isn’t getting off. And other times … I know this is gonna sound weird but she just loves for me to cum inside her. Yeah, weird. Its like when I cum, she feels complete. Never been with a girl like that and, yeah, its nice. Morning sex with her is especially nice. She wakes up juicy and horny. And snuggly. So we snuggle and caress and then I start fucking her …. she gets wet and juicy … and loves for me to cum inside her. But she is nowhere near orgasm. Which just seems weird … because I’m a man. But its really, really nice. Just saying. Its what bonds 2 people together. When we make up int he am like that and have sex like that … it creates a bond. Better than when I was married and maybe that was why my marriage didn’t last. Whatever. Just living by the moment and hope the moments continue to last..
Mega the big O is easier during some times of the month than others, even with the same or even better efforts. Just appreciate it when it appears, like a Yeti. Enjoy!
To add to that, it’s really yucky from a girl point of view if a guy either takes it personally that you didn’t O or if he has a “I wont stop until you do” if it’s just not happening. Women can greatly enjoy sex that doesn’t result in O, and sometimes it just happens out of nowhere, even if the sex was not as good. I think it is hard for guys to get this, because guys aren’t “finished” w/o it, or it’s almost always the finish anyway. Not finishing can cause discomfort for him, even. For women, not so much like that.
Mega,
All of that is good news. It is good to hear because most of what I hear is bad news.
RPG, yep on all of that. Took me a long time to figure that out about women and sometimes I do suffer from “I won’t stop until you come” syndrome and end up wearing her out. But I’m getting better at reading her. We’ve even talked about it. That I like for her to orgasm first and it makes it better for me if she does. Asked her if their is anything she’d like me to do differently, etc. And she said pretty much what you just did … . She mentioned maybe taking it a little slower but I don’t really think that is the issue cause I usually go pretty slow and we have plenty of foreplay. Like you said … sometimes its happening, sometimes its not, and sometimes it comes out of nowhere. And as you said, even if it isn’t happening for her … doesn’t mean that she doesn’t enjoy it, cause she does. Think you nailed it from a women’s perspective and, yes, I think that most men don’t understand that. I guess I need to get a better at reading her … comes with experience … so guess we’ll have to continue doing this a lot, lol.
The one thing really different about this girl is she really just loves to snuggle. We literally spend hrs and and hrs together in bed together … lots of talking about stuff too … its not all sex. My last GF liked to snuggle too so I got used to it … but not like this one. The GF before that, loved sex but didn’t really like to snuggle so much … more like a guy. My Ex didn’t really like to be touched much at all, sex was sex.
I think men are much more the same when it comes to sex … they just need to get off. Haha, but then again … I definitely have no experience there because I’m definitely hetero … so will rely on RPG’s word on that. But she is correct for most guys, if they have sex and don’t cum it can be a very, very frustrating experience and guys don’t like that at all.
I think I got lucky with this new girl. She was married for a long, long time and both her boys are older BUT BOTH STILL AT HOME. Which is why I was talking about earlier came up. But one is moving out in a few weeks. So that will be a good thing, he’s moving a couple hr drive away too so won’t be mooching off mom too much; at least I hope not. She didn’t get divorced until after the kids were done high school so both had their father in their lives … so both are fairly normal. Which is an incredible thing given our current screwed up society. Especially the one moving out, seems to be a good kid.
Anyway, the last few yrs of her marriage were not good … which is normal. And she’s been divorced for about 1 1/2 yrs and think she got a harsh wake up call. Being a divorced, older woman … SUCKS !!! And I think she got really, really lonely. And I said in my earlier rant … I think she wants a man around because it makes her feel safe … she doesn’t feel safe going it alone. So, I think she really appreciates a guy who treats her nice and since she hadn’t had sex in a LONG TIME … she really appreciates that too. Anyway, I think she was alone long enough to realize that it sucks and she’d rather have a guy in her life and is willing to do what it takes to make that happen … unlike most women today.
And the big thing for me is that she wasn’t alone long enough to develop bad habits like most divorced women do. She is a Feminist though … and we had some heated discussions about Hillary/Trump. And its weird, one of the things the RP teaches people is … WATCH WHAT PEOPLE DO … not what they say. So she talks a lot of Libtard, Feminist BS … just doesn’t actually live or act that way so much. I’ve even teased her about it … said she is a lot more “traditional” than she thinks she is. And its good that we can talk like that. I even pointed out one time that if all women voted for Hillary … Trump wouldn’t have had a chance because there are more women voters than men … so despite how many women say they HATE TRUMP … millions of women voted for him anyway … because they knew Hillary was a liar and a crook. Women are masters of deception like that … saying one thing but doing another. So that was a good Red Pill Lesson … watch what people DO … not what they SAY.
I guess I’m trying to be a role model like that for her … and it seems to be working so far. Be the MAN, take the lead, and expect her to get in line and follow … AND SHE DOES. And seems to like it, so far … no second guessing or anything like that. So its going well. There was one interesting exchange that happened a couple of months ago. Hadn’t seen her for a week and she came over and gave her a hug and then a nice kiss. And she smelled good and felt good and I was horny, so I took her by the hand and started leading her straight to the bedroom. She was all shocked and said “But I just got here !” and I kinda laughed and said “Well, we can get caught up after we have sex …” and lead her straight to the bedroom. Literally, she arrived, took her shoes off and 2 minutes later we were naked and having sex. I think that was one of the times … when she had a bunch of great orgasms too, lol. Funny thing is a couple of weeks later she essentially did the same thing to me … came over, took her coat off and immediately wanted to have sex. I was like “Oh, well … if you insist …”. Fun times …
She’s coming over in a couple hrs to spend the afternoon/dinner … so I gotta get off the computer …
I am happy for you!
Glad to hear things are going well Mega. If you have not read the article from Rationl Male on Frame yet, that is a good one to read when starting a new relationship… seize the frame and keep it! https://therationalmale.com/2011/10/12/frame/
Bloom,
Mega may have an advantage. His sweetie has seen things from the other side and doesn’t want to go there.
There is a new post at Spawny’s
https://spawnyspace.wordpress.com/2017/01/09/preference-cascade/
I hope you are right Fuzzie. That would be good.
Bloom,
What I hope for is that she doesn’t take Mega for granted.
@ Fuzzie she may, but hopefully she is listening.
RPG,
She should know better by now. I am keeping my fingers crossed.
I’m talking about economics and the NUMBER OF MILLENNIUMS LIVING AT A HOME; SPECIFICALLY MEN/BOYS. Google it. WHY ARE SINGLE MOM”S REFUSING TO MAKE THEIR KIDS GROW UP AND BE ADULTS ????? Just baffled the hell out of me and I gave it a lot of though.
In Germany you would see that Housing is soridicioulously overpriced that most young men simply can not afford it. Stop blaming women for “keeping men at home”!
Ultimately, its probably has always been a fuzzy line. In reality, equality doesn’t exist as there are a number of variations on people as a group. Its possible that as an idea, legal equality is a good idea. However, whenever an ideology is superimposed over a conflicting reality, problems are bound to ensure. I mostly equate liberal ideology as a religion with the same difficulties as the past conservative religions had. Political correctness is just the new heresy hunting.
@danielchieh, welcome! I would agree. I have long thought this SJW thing was eerily similar to the girls in the Salem With Trials and other such hysteria inspired atrocities. Not good…