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Perhaps I am just engaging in wishful thinking, but from what I see, it seems as a culture we’ve pushed the “modem, equal, single, independent woman” thing about as far as it can go. And it’s not working as described. So my hope is soon there will be the inevitable swing back to more traditional values perhaps with a red pill twist.
I think while many blue pill/modern women would misunderstand the idea if presented all at once (OMG, what are you going to do lock me up and take away all my rights?), I do think people are dissatisfied enough with the way things are going that they are starting to seek out answers.
And the older I get, the more I see there is wisdom in the old ways, in tradition, in men being men and women being women. And perhaps now that these “old ways” have been out of fashion for so long, people will be able to see them in a new light.
It’s kind of like the organic farming movement. On both sides my grandparents were farmers. They farmed organically but they didn’t think of it as “organic” it was just the way things had always been done. And for the most part it worked. It was hard work, but manageable on a daily basis, and they had more free time than many people do today, fewer worries, and a quiet but comfortable life.
They drank fresh raw milk, made butter, raised their own beef, pork, and poultry without antibiotics or growth hormones. They raised and canned or froze enough produce to easily eat well through the winter. It was like a hipster’s clean eating, free range, humane, organic dream come true! I am sure my grandparents would be surprised to hear people will pay $25 for one chicken raised the way all their chickens were! The only things I can remember my grandparents buying from the store were things they could not produce themselves: sugar, peanut butter, coffee, and a few other staples.
During the depression my grandmother says while they did not have money to spend on extras, they ate just as well and for the most part life really wasn’t that much different on the farm before, during, or after the depression. In fact my grandmother would fret about those living in cities, wondering what they would do if another depression hit? If they could not or did not know how to grow their own food and had to buy it all, she saw this would be a real hardship.
I hope that traditional male and female relationship dynamics, like my grandparents had, will become as trendy and hip as organic free range foods are today. Considered a “premium” in fact!
Dare to dream. I know some who are already living that way even if the rest of the world is not, and they are among the happiest people I know, with little stress, drama, worry, or strife.
Let those who have ears hear.
What do you think? Please share in the comments.
Notes From a Red Pill Girl 
I think the end of the Strong Independent Woman will come over money. To be that strong and independent takes a lot of government subsidies. Add to that federally guaranteed student loans that bankruptcy can’t alter.
Your grandparents may not have been aware of it, but the first recorded case of starvation in the US, related to the economy, was during the Great Depression. There were depressions before. The Panic in 1876 resulted in twenty percent unemployment but there was always some way for people to find and work for food.
Interesting page you have here. It’s good that more women realizing this but I wonder. Do women actually take the time to read this? I mean younger and fertile women.
It does no good for us, for our families and people if a woman becomes red pill after her small window of fertility is nearly gone. After years and years riding the carousel.
We need the ones who can birth our future to understand the truth.
I am fortunate to have surrounded myself with some friends who are living more traditional. Their wives are housewives and they are very content. I’ve seen many more though crushed and miserable.
I’m actually going to write an article soon about the sublime beauty of the housewife. The best thing for a woman is to be pregnant and busy with the divine work of home and hearth. I encourage this among my friends families. To look upon their beautiful children and not deprive their family the sacrifice of more children like this!
If there was a woman whom I found and upon the moment I decided she was indeed worth starting a family with, I would be looking to get her pregnant asap.
Women today loathe the fruit of their womb. Quite sad to see a creature do at odds with itself. So helplessly self annihilating.
@ Jack, I agree completely! Thanks for adding that. I wrote about a similar observation: https://notesfromaredpillgirl.com/2014/11/12/inside-a-world-without-feminism/
The thing is these worlds are mostly self contained and hidden, I think if women saw them at least the ones with any sense would see the advantages. But you are right, women are being brainwashed that “children are the end” and it’s all about “career and education and taking care of yourself!” I was told that by my mom, and put kids off until my mid-30s. And I was headstrong and selfish in my marriage. I totally did not get it. Well, I guess I learned? Anyway, I try to raise my girls different, and talk w excitement about them having babies and husbands and being wives someday. If I had started having babies sooner, I would have a whole lot more help from strong young backs right now, which I could sorely use! That’s why I write this, in hopes other women will avoid the false path to “freedom” from a young age, young enough to avoid all that BS. Welcome and thanks for commenting!
Also @Jack, I can see from the back end stats that many young 20s women follow my blog but they rarely post for some reason. I hope they are finding it helpful and my words are finding some fertile ground! 😀
I hope they don’t think that bears will eat them. I am very friendly, especially if they bring cookies.
To influence the younger generation you must constantly occupy their minds. Without a community that needs one another it is next to impossible.
Still for men who can and will, we shall yank the desirable ones off of their programming devices and force them to live for what we deem best.
The world and the West is becoming more brutal everyday. When the younger generation begins to feel the consequences of their’s and their parents choices. When the hard rain of a savage world comes beating down on their naked bodies, then they will beg the strong ones for help.
When there is no longer a spineless white knight to be a parachute and enable poor female choices, then things will change. Though I don’t give anything to wasted women, I also give nothing to a male coward who pedestalizes broken women.
A world that no longer suffers weak males is one I’m helping to crash with the weight of a freight train gone off the rails right through their mother fucking doors.
RPG … they rarely post because they are looking for confirmation bias. Girls riding the CC want to hear other women telling them that its OK. Women telling them that its not ok and that they should be doing something different … click, next page. I do hope you continue posting though and do hope you can make a difference.
That’s one of the big things I learned when I swallowed the Red Pill. The differences between men and women and how that’s baked in … due to genetics. I learned how women always defer to other women. How they want to fit in. So if other women are being chaste and being loyal to their men … THEY WILL TOO. If they are a lying cunt, treating men like garbage, and fucking the next bad boy who just got out of jail … THEN they will do that to. So WOMEN need to set expectations on behavior. Not men.
Wow Jack, that’s intense! May we never see that day but God Bless you and others or being willing!
If you read my link, my sitters clan number many, many, many. All the men silent and civil as all get out, but trust me, there will be no flag burning or rioting nonsense around these parts! I have no fear living among them, am honored to know them and glad that I do! They are good true people. Luckily they are all having 10+ kids per couple, to boot! 🙂
But @Mega these young ladies (right, girls? Be good!) actually “follow” the blog, not just click by. Hope they are tuning in! 😀 And actually, I am surprised I have not had any sjw nonsense here but I really haven’t.
In the 1990s there was an interesting writer named Daniel Quinn, a man who I believe spent a good deal of his life writing encyclopedia entries and those educational film strips that all of us of a certain age remember as the predecessor of power point. He was also a Trappist monk for quite a few years … you know, the guys who don’t speak.
While the presentation of his ideas in the book Ishmael was irritating in the EXTREME and typical of the gushy New Age writings of the time, many of the ideas themselves were of high quality. The bit that fits this discussion is his insistence that we examine what historians shrug off as “pre history” for modern guidance. Pre history is described, in his view, as the 100,000 years of accumulated human wisdom that was never written down yet is preserved in the traditions of so called “primitive peoples.”
Basically, traditional stuff is traditional because it works.
An example would be how “traditional” societies dispense with adolescence … which, as we all know, is a disaster if prolonged. First there is childhood. Adolescence begins with the preparation for a trial of some sort (sometimes pretty brutal) that forms the gateway to the coveted respect, freedoms, and responsibilities of adulthood. Then there is the trial itself, be it physical, spiritual or intellectual (we still see these things every day in both the Catholic and Jewish religions). Once the trial is passed adolescence is deemed OVER. You’ve had your vision quest. You are now an adult. Deal with it.
Some of his later works were considerably easier to take for a reader who didn’t want their mind numbed by that Barney episode-like New Age prose. But Ishmael was popular (I had to force myself to get through it because I work in publishing and need to understand anything that is new and happening) and, as I said, the ideas were solid and even improved and gave up some of their hippie throwback edge as he continued on to create other works. Much of the same material is covered in a more intellectual and serious style in Jared Diamond’s Guns Germs and Steel … and also Collapse. Not so much, however, the commentary on the value found in the wisdom of pre history’s traditions.
100,000 years of living experience, through all sorts of conditions, is nothing to be sneered at. We don’t want to use it all, some traditions are ridiculous and damaging, but many deserve consideration because they made the cut at some time or another. Many of traditions so despised by feminists of today were cemented by cultures that were actually quite matriarchal. The wisdom remains.
It may, however, take a more modern, softer, New Age-like, approach to sell many of these ideas to younger women. The language of the Red Pill, and some of the limited point of view that comes with it, is not the way to convince it to a vast array of others. Our culture has become so emotional, subjective and reactive that one wrong word can lead too many to discount an idea of value. The Red Pill is valuable to some because it is hard. It like a prize for those searching for it. I fear few young women, even those motivated, will have a reason to search down a pathway so antagonistic to the way they have been trained to think. A new path way, into what the people here might consider a healthier culture, may need to be created, one that fill the need of searching woman just as the Red Pill did for men. A Pink Pill? I don’t like that because it seems like the lite version of red. Anybody got a better color?
That “limited point of view” comment above comes from the fact that the Red Pill started as a way of deciphering behavior observed in the world of dating but it is slowly becoming a more significant philosophy … but one that may be limited by the narrow focus and terminology of its origins.
Bloom
Can you post some stats on regular followers.
For a female oriented page most of the commenters are male.
Me, bear, toad, spawny, the almighty Ton.
Be very nice to get more female opinions.
Its why I come here to offset a dozen manosphere blogs I follow.
And to the quiet ladies….come on in.
Only Ton bites but Bloom keeps him in check.
And as a special incentive
Horseman’s secrets to get married in 6 days
And stay married for 29 years
*Under 30, married female with young children here* I just wanted to toss in that I agree with this post. Myself and the overwhelming majority of the families I know live very traditionally. Most of us mothers stay home to school our children and the husbands work at respectable jobs. I feel my little family falls a little more into the Red Pill category because there is no obligatory mumbling or side eyeing when the subject of “who wears the pants in the family” comes up. We feel no need to defend our family or behaviors, and were very open and honest about our roles in the home and in our marriage.
As for why women don’t comment… I can only speak for myself, but I’ve often seen some pretty gnarly language thrown around in the Red Pill arena that I personally find off putting. My sensitive nature and all 😉 Others may not comment for the same reason some women say things like “I don’t need a man!” They know the red pill dynamic WORKS REALLY WELL, but they fear it would label them as sexist or incapable or plain dumb to admit such a thing.
Horseman,
Your “special incentive” might motivate them. If that doesn’t work, who knows what will?
Thanks for adding that Allen, totally agreed! When I encountered the red pill, I was at a very specific point in my own vision quest, and then also having had many male friends my whole life, their brash language didn’t bother me. But I know it would a lot of women. Pink pill is not quite right… too many connotations maybe w that being “girly” and “weak” although those themselves are judgement of a color that does describe the feminine nature… I found so much knowledge from the red pill, but also knew most women likely would not be able to overlook the male direct nature of the prose (and it was a male space so why would they not talk like males talk but…) that I started this blog for just that reason… to act as some sort of translator for a language I am still myself learning and to provide a place where mixed gender company is encouraged, vs. some red pill sites that truly are male spaces that should be respected as such and they would change too much if swamped w the ladies… I like the idea of wisdom from pre-writing, but of course it’s so open to interpretation what that looked like, it can be sketchy waters, not that they aren’t worth transversing! 😀
Lol Horseman, now you are asking or trade secrets! Lol. Over 700 unique visitors come to the blog per day on average, and more than half that are regular followers so as you can see waaaaay more than ever comment. I am hoping they will dive in anytime (anytime!) I can only assume if they hated it, they’d be telling me off long ago? Lol! I cannot HELP but comment so the idea of reading and not commenting, I maybe should get that (lol!) but apparently don’t!
Thanks for adding that lowcountry hippie! I get that concern but unless a gal came in here all, “you guys are idiots and her is why!” I think all are welcome.:D
Please folks, do not be afraid… especially if you have questions or something doesn’t make sense, I hope we could discuss! And everyone has a perspective to share! I asked lots and lots and lots of questions when I found the red pill!
Hippie
Welcome!!
I think you may have hit it.!
But ladies.
No one here is dumb or incapable. Ask/comment away!
Bloom is one of the most capable women.
And bloom not commenting? Like bear turning down a molly burrito!
RPG: “I like the idea of wisdom from pre-writing, but of course it’s so open to interpretation what that looked like, it can be sketchy waters, not that they aren’t worth transversing!”
I think that Quinn’s point was that the wisdom of pre historic peoples still exists in traditional societies who continue to this day to maintain those pre historic ways of life. I grew up around Navajo and Ute communities and witnessed a lot of subtle behavior modification built into their societies in order to control the human nature of both men and women. We give up our past at great risk.
That said, I really doubt that we are ever going to go “back” to the ethos of a previous time but possibly we could go forward. I’d take a future where both men and women held themselves to an objective standard of honesty and excellence in their relationships with one and other.
I had a relationship very early in my life with a woman who came from a kind of traditional yet at the same time outlaw background … I won’t explain that, it’s classified. Both sides of that equation, traditional and outlaw, were pretty ferocious about actions having meaning and one’s not being able to escape the consequences. Though she came with a raft of problems she was strict about owning them and keeping them in their place. I didn’t realize it at the time but she was pretty damn impressive.
I’m glad I’m not with her anymore but she also spoiled me for many relationships to come. I just didn’t understand the dishonesty, evasiveness, and lack of honor I saw in other women until I started formulating my own version of the Red Pill. Those ideas were later improved by some of the theories that people on this site tend to believe in. She was not, however, conventionally old fashioned or traditionally feminine … far from it. She just had the courage to be brutally honest and keep her word even when it hurt like hell. My friends girlfriends were absolutely terrified of her, initially I though that was because she was very sexy and street savvy but now I think it was really how clear headed she was. and her level of commitment to me.
She was really 300% supportive of whatever I wanted to do. Knowing that, I realized that I had to live up to that level of loyalty. It gave what I chose to do significance. Her attitude allowed me, who was younger than she was, to be comfortably forceful in the relationship. That was, of course, exactly what she wanted and allowed me to be more comfortable with the er … “classified” nature of her life. It could have been a train wreck. It eventually WAS a train wreck. But she was a stand up gal and I’d have far fewer reservations about womankind if there were more like her.
We, both men and women, can live up to a higher standard. We can help each other live up to it.
To influence young minds, you must either relate to them, or be enviable. The latter is only possible if they look up close, otherwise they will assume being barefoot and pregnant makes you a loser. If you hope to reach young people, the connection to their current life and problems must be made. So when they google “why are guys so dumb” or “I don’t want to do my homework” “10 ways to look hot” they will be lead to this site. I don’t think teenagers look for what they don’t know is out there.
And I think Allan dated a traveller :p
Here is one 25-year old reading this blog. Greetings from Scandinavia.
Traditional roles are good but I think being a housewife would be a bit boring in the long run. I mean of course it is a good idea to be a housewife when you have small children. But if you don’t have children or the children are already older then there just isn’t so much to do at home. Housework doesn’t take as much time as it did 200 years ago.
I think having a job is a good thing. You just need to be prepared to be away from work for few years when the children are small.
@Rose, how many children exactly do you have?
Nowadays, especially in Europe, but most probably in the U.S. as well, the traditional distribution SAHM and working Dad is not going to work anymore. Not for the vast majority of employees. Living expenses have been rising much faster than the average household income. So the additional income generated by the wife is not a plain addition for higher standards or possible savings, but much more a necessity to make ends meet.
Just only due to this plain fact, you won’t have to worry about becoming a bored stay-at-home-mum.
@Munglintar
I don’t have children yet.
I know all the things you are saying. And where I live it is very normal that both parents have a job and earn money. Living with only one person’s income would be hard for many. But I was referring to a situation where it would be financially possible for the woman to stay at home.
Sorry for any possible mistakes in grammar. English is not my native language,
Rose, as children age, so do your parents, aunts and uncles. Older housewives I know have their hands full caring for the sick and elderly in their families, helping out new mums. Also, older children are especially susceptible to peer pressures. It is good to have a strong family culture, to be available when teens need to talk. Ha det bra.
Found your site yesterday but am just getting around now to comment. I have a sneaky suspicion Jack Ronin found you through a comment I made. Heh.
To answer one of Jack’s points, I believe sites like this will help even if it were just women past their childbearing years reading it. You done having kids, but still have kids in the house? Begin teaching them red pill lessons. Got kids in college? The same goes there.
Is it better to catch them when they’re young and haven’t been fully brainwashed by the public school systems? Of course, but that can’t always happen so we should take our victories where we can. There’s many times in regular conversations where you can drop an innocuous red pill truth and move on. Plant the seeds and wait for the harvest.
Now, onto the topic of your article…I think you might be onto something there. Many younger people are looking for that wholesome food/living lifestyle. A rebranding of the “traditional family” lifestyle might make them bite. It’s all about marketing and that’s sadly something conservatives have been pretty poor at. We’ve been losing the cultural war to the degenerate left because we’re seen as stuffy, old-fashioned, and oppressive. Not sure if it could work or even if that’s the best option. Just a thought to ponder on this fine Friday morning.
Keep up the good fight. Glad to see a women’s red pill site with such a high level of interest.
Best Regards,
Gentleman Jak
Molly burritos? Yum! Four at a time. That is one for each paw.
It is on a tangent to this topic, reading an old RoK post, it dealt with women prizing their independence to the point where men were committing and they weren’t. Relationships would compromise independence, so they are avoided while being sexually active is praised.
Conforming to social mores can be convoluted.
Hi Rose, welcome! 🙂
Happy: “And I think Allan dated a traveller :p”
I’d rather not say … but her culture was not ashamed in admiring strength in a man and, at its best, required strict accountability. She was at a point in her life when she had decided that complete honesty was important as was a return to the inherent values of that culture. She hadn’t always been this way and it hadn’t worked out well for her. She was capable of learning and she was motivated to have a good relationship and invested in me being that good relationship.
The important thing was that at some level she knew what she wanted and she helped me be that man rather than trying to tear me down and deny that I was that man. It was thirty yeas ago, she was from a “different culture.” The culture today often tells women not to bother. Some men aren’t worth bothering with, same with many women. But we can’t always be too worn out or afraid to try.
A story, slightly at random: I was driving. I glanced over and saw her reaching into her purse. Out of the corner of my eye I saw her going into her purse for a cigarette. I told her that I loved her and that I didn’t want her to smoke. She stared at me for a moment then she threw the cigarettes and the lighter out the window and she never smoked again. Cold Turkey. Of course she did know she should stop whether I suggested it or not. But the interesting thing is that after that moment, it was never discussed.
There were a couple of times when things came down to me issuing an ultimatum rather than just asking. She always understood those the same way, a couple of seconds of, “is he really serious?” and then complete and willing acceptance. I never did it lightly, she knew that and honored it. I when realized that she WOULD honor what I asked it made me much more respectful when I demanded the few things I did.
A woman can MAKE the man she wants. But she has to be a real woman, not some baby with an ego inflated by our current culture. My girlfriend’s “manipulation” of me was in giving me legitimate responsibility over her and never trying to trick me into fulfilling superficial, short term, desires. She was goofy, raucous, lively and fun, she was also a real bad ass. She meant what she did at a profound level.
Hi Muglinatar, thanks for adding that! Indeed, lots of young couples face this issue, for sure. And childcare itself, esp. quality care, can almost take up a whole 2nd income. I have seen couples work staggered shifts, or watch another child or two at home to add income without the childcare costs, or work from home some other way. It’s kind of a catch 22, tricky, for sure! And I completely understand the bored stay at home mom issue, it can be easier to take the kids out somewhere or schedule playdates w other moms than to just stay home b/c it’s true, that can make everyone stir crazy. Thanks for commenting and welcome! 🙂
@A Allen, sounds like a very interesting relationship indeed! Thanks for sharing! SOunds like she had many admirable traits. Sometimes a non traditional upbringing can lead to surprising results, for example I know a young gal who got married this past fall. There was a huge storm predicted two days before her outdoor event, and rather than meltdown, she just did what needed done and completely replanned her wedding in less than 24 hours w/o a single complaint. I was super impressed! Turned out she was raised in a 1970s era commune!
Welcome Jak, and thanks for the comment that possibly lead Jack here as well! Yes, we can all do little things to help sneak the red pill thinking into the mainstream. I see it popping up in folks I am 100% sure are not online or visiting these forums, so I think it is becoming part of the cultural dialog somehow! 🙂
@HHW, yes I am not sure how folks, including young women, are finding this blog but they are somehow! I wish I did know 🙂 I think my tagging articles w/ words like “dating” and “romance” and such may help but I am not 100% sure. Glad they are though! 😀
I agree with the other commentator that it will be about money. I’ve considered current developments and the ugliness of the world to be like the upper left:
http://users.math.yale.edu/fractals/Panorama/Biology/Bacteria/Bacteria3.html
Basically, we have too many resources. Life is far too easy, and so people aren’t encourage to organize or cooperate, but rather to grab whatever they can. Independence is at the fore, and traditional systems designed for more scarcity are lost. Tragic, because its more beautiful.
However, as the ponzi scheme that is the economy bursts and peak oil, which has been building up since 2004 hits, I think that the “domestic economy” will have a revival. Around the time when it both makes financial sense as well as emotional sense to work as a family unit, I do believe that traditional relationships will have a revival.
I hope so, anyway.
That is a good thing to hope for.
@Muglintar what’s hilarious is that part of the reason why living expenses have been rising is that women have been working, and as part of the tragedy of the commons, the overall level of combined income has become the benchmark for homeowners, etc to sell at.
There’s also debt and inflation as additional hidden taxes, but yes, its one reason why feminism is indeed a zero sum game. The more it succeeds, the more it makes a traditional life even harder to accomplish.
There’s a reason why I mock the idea that modernity has only “increased choices.” I’m sure the ideology has its heart in the right place, but it does limit the choices of others by increasing the cost of making such choices.
@Rose if my wife is any note, its not boring at all. We don’t have children yet and between social aspects such as knitting, hobbies including profitable ones, and a variety of other small tasks that are usually ignored, she’s never complained about it.
The truth is that working 2050 plus hours a year is not exactly natural – for men or women. We just don’t have a culture that really accommodates for free time like it was in the past.
Feminism is responsible for the rise in the cost of living?
I have never considered that, but it makes a lot of sense that it has contributed a lot.
@fuzziewuzziebear Correlation is not causation, persay, but there is a direct correlation with increasing cost in the 70s and increasing female employment. Perhaps increasing cost forced more women to work and made it normalized; perhaps more women working allowed family goods to rise higher in price.
Regardless, the two are closely tied.
I mean, at one point, there were feminists that wanted a subsidy for housewives – they’re gone now. Corporation interests always win, because they fund the parts of a movement most favorable to them.
http://www.mybudget360.com/two-income-trap-dual-income-trap-household-income-middle-class-two-income-trap/
After that, easy credit and debt inflation became the next big thing to continue rising prices versus declining real incomes.
I like the parallels you drew with our departure from fundamentally good nutrition to processed food. We ignored nature, and nature ignored us as is evidenced by the spiking rates of fatal cancers and heart diseases. In a very parallel manner, intimate relationships have gone “sideways” with feminism getting a bit too extreme in my modest opinion. Modern women might be empowered, but very few of them are actually happy… and it shows. I would also ask my fellow men to help this transition by treating your wives like queens in your home. If you are fortunate enough to find one that bears children for you, loves you, and supports you, do your best to show her you appreciate her, give her the world and help make her life as enjoyable as possible.
Have you thought about the housing bubble? I knew it was close to the end when the SF Chronicle put it on the front page that houses were appreciating to the extent that it was more than household income through work.
I think we need to prepare ourselves for huge, fundamental economic reset. Feminism has affected all aspects of society.
Feminism is just one of the many sins of modernity, but yes. Should be interesting when reality reasserts itself.
The sooner it does, the less damaging it will be. Sadly, it will do it in its own time.
RPG (aka Rocket Propelled Grenade!):”I know a young gal who got married this past fall. There was a huge storm predicted two days before her outdoor event, and rather than meltdown, she just did what needed done and completely replanned her wedding in less than 24 hours w/o a single complaint. I was super impressed! Turned out she was raised in a 1970s era commune!”
There’s a great line in Munich as Golda Meir interviews one of the Mossad agents she says: “I like durable men.”
Well, I like Practical Women like the one mentioned above. There was a time when this was considered an expected staple of female behavior. Unfortunately, we men are now seeing it as a nearly unattainable virtue!
I really don’t care which way the pendulum swings, as long as women are happy. I do think it would be wise for women to really think long and hard about whether or not marriage and/or kids is a commitment they really want to make. I wish only those who are going to be good parents would reproduce. There are too many unfit mothers and fathers on this Earth, and too many unwanted children being passed around in foster care. We need to do something about that.
Jesus … we were just talking here recently about all you have to do is turn the language around to see HOW WOMEN HATE MEN. So here goes. Ash … you asked for it.
“I really don’t care which way the pendulum swings, as long as MEN are happy. I do think it would be wise for MEN to really think long and hard about whether or not marriage and/or kids is a commitment they really want to make. I wish only those who are going to be good parents would reproduce AND THAT SINGLE MOTHERS WOULD BE PROHIBITED BY LAW, ARREST THEM, SENTENCE THEM TO JAIL, AND TAKE AWAY THEIR CHILDREN… FOR THE GOOD OF THE CHILDREN. There are too many unfit mothers on this Earth, and too FEW unwanted children being passed around in foster care BECAUSE WOMEN ARE GIVEN THE POWER TO DESTROY LIFE. We need to do something about that. LIKE GIVE MEN EQUAL RIGHTS … THEIR BODY, THEIR CHOICE. IF THE MOTHER OF HIS UNBORN CHILD WANTS TO MURDER HIS CHILD BEFORE IT IS BORN (ABORTION), THE MAN CAN APPEAR IN COURT AND HAVE THE COURT ORDER THE MOTHER KEEP THE BABY TILL ITS BORN, THEN STEAL THE BABY FROM THE MOTHER (BECAUSE ITS UNWANTED) AND THEN GIVE IT TO THE FATHER AS THE MOTHER HAS GIVE UP ALL RIGHTS TO IT, BUT THE COURT WILL FORCE THE MOTHER TO PAY FOR THE CHILD SHE CAN”T SEE AND DOESN”T WANT … FOR THE NEXT 18 YEARS AND IF THE MOTHER WON”T PAY TO SUPPORT A CHILD SHE CAN”T SEE AND DOESN”T WANT … SHE WILL BE SENT TO A DEBTORS PRISON … ALL WHILE THE FATHER BRAINWASHES THE BABY TO HATE THE MOTHER BECAUSE SHE GAVE HIM UP.
Sound about right ? I embellished a little at the end … to make a point. MY BODY … MY CHOICE IS COMPLETE AND UTTER BULLSHIT. MAN-HATE IS WHAT IT IS. If the man doesn’t want a child and wants a woman to get an abortion … WHAT RIGHTS DOES HE HAVE ? And then he has to pay 18 years of child support for a child he doesn’t even want ? And if he doesn’t pay … he goes to Prison ? ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME ????
Equal rights would be an awesome thing. If it were true …
You’re right, it’s not always equal rights. If men had a uterus, they could be of more authority to make the same decisions. Damn mother nature is a sexist bitch, isn’t she?
For the win … Ash … I HAVE A VAGINA … THAT MEANS I”M IN CHARGE AND THE UNIVERSE OWES ME SHIT. MEN SHOULD LINE UP AND GIVE ME SHIT, ALL OF THEM. AND DO THE SHIT JOBS I DON”T WANT TO DO. AND KISS MY ASS AND WIPE MY BUTT AND TAKE OUT THE TRASH. AND IF THEY WON”T … JUST ARREST THEM AND RUIN THEIR LIVES. SEND THEM TO PRISON. OR JUST KILL THEM, I DON”T CARE … I HAVE A VAGINA … DID I MENTION THAT … SO THAT MEANS I WIN. 50% OF HUMANITY CAN GO TO HELL AND DIE. EQUAL RIGHTS ???? WHO NEEDS THAT … I HAVE A VAGINA … DO I NEED TO MENTION THAT ?
Signed, Ash.
Jesus, can’t make this shit up.
Ok, calm your tits and maybe I’ll talk to you. Bye.
OK, I’ll take the high road. I don’t have any tits to calm. Sorry. Bloom … you listening ? I got no tits, I promise. But I do have a big male member but he doesn’t get aroused for women like Ash. Probably a short, obese, short haired… dyed red … feminist. Tatted out. Tits hanging to her knees. Big mouth. Too stupid to know when she should shut the hell up. Worthless degrees. Lots of debt and no job or any way to repay it. Not like I’m lumping her in with the stereotypical Feminist or anything. And, yeah, my dick just shrunk up to the size of worm and tried to crawl up my own ass. Feminists don’t do that to me … ok, they do !!!
Mocking Ash for the triple win. Why don’t you go burn some Milo signs … got some college campus’ to burn down? You do have a VAGINA after all somebody to discredit … and nobody can touch you … you got a VAGINA !!!
Bit harsh, arresting single moms, mega. Is there no gentler way? Some of those dads don’t even want the kids.
Also, I, too, have a vagina, so be nice 😉
@Ash it might very well be that women – and men – for that matter, might be happier with less individual choice and options, contrary to the premise of your statement. This might less contradictory, but research has shown that while people usually believe that they are happier with more autonomy(individual choice), over a longer period of time, people are actually happier and mentally healthier with more interconnectedness(relationships) which often requires less individual choice.
I can see that someone else has already taken this argument to some interestingly rambling and frenetic ways, so I’m not fond of continuing it – but its a worthwhile thing to consider, I believe.
For myself, I would have never agreed when I was younger that individuality was anything but the best of all things, until I became part of a group where I basically served one specific role, determined perhaps even in a particularly silly way – by my year of the Chinese horoscope. Such things happen in my culture.
And it was beautiful. To feel part of a greater force, to be able to focus on one thing in particular, encouraged and told that I was born for it, and to see the results of it..is something that is hard to explain, and even harder to find in the atomized Western world.
Jordan Peterson has talked about game theory, and its worthwhile to consider its applications to this; I have another theory based on the concept of “kakocracy.” Modern society operates under the idea that “we don’t ask much of you, so you can’t ask much of us.” Its functional, but ultimately hostile, I feel. There’s always the contrary option of “society asks a lot of you(to be a role, etc), but you can ask a lot of society as well(expect an outcome, etc).”
The latter is valid, and I think, often particularly beautiful.
Your grandparents’ life sounds idyllic, but they were lucky. It could have just as easily been miserable. I have been a traditional wife most of my adult life, and am now approaching 60. It is only in the past few years that I have realized how lucky I am to have a husband who doesn’t think he is my boss, with rights over my body and my mind. That’s because I’ve seen how the other half lives.
So it’s not about traditional roles, which are fine if you enjoy them – it’s about traditional rights. Women have never had the same rights as men. And they should. Only when they do, will it be all right for the pendulum to swing back.
Great post!! I love where you’re coming from with this…It’s important to remove foods that don’t serve you. All food is either alkaline or acidic forming. If your body is more acidic, you are more prone to disease, illness, bacteria and viruses. (hence, sad people) One of the things that always scares me is….if you think about that one food you crave, that one food is the one causing the most damage to your body! Scary thought! Let’s be happy!!
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