Prior to the red pill, I would listen to advice from friends that I now can see was anything but “friendly” advice. Not that they meant to give me bad advice on purpose, I am sure, but in the end it was bad advice no matter what the intent. It’s something to be on guard against in your own life, too.
Well meaning blue pill people often give absolutely horrible advice, especially when it comes to relationships. I was more often encouraged to leave my marriage than to work on it, was told behavior was abusive and controlling when in retrospect I can now see that it was not, that being divorced would not be so bad, that when things weren’t easy it was better to just start over, and other complete nonsense.
As I touched on in my last post, even today people are all too eager to spout the blue pill party line at me, under the guise of “friendly” advice. I am sure such people may mean well, but are blind themselves to just how brainwashed they are to see everything as abuse, control, and a red flag.
These days I am very careful who I take advice from. Unless they themselves are in a healthy, happy, functional relationship, I choose to say, “thanks but no thanks.” Because if they aren’t living it themselves, how could they possibly give good advice?
Likewise, beware the “hen sessions” made up of girls complaining about their lives and relationships. Such discussions will only leave you feeling dissatisfied, when in reality you are maybe just absorbing the toxic spew of others. Sadly, in my experience, church bible study groups often devolved into little more than a gripe session, and were often the worst.
Thank to the red pill, I am no longer buying such advice and my life is much better off for it!
What do you think? Have you ever been the victim of bad “friendly” advice?
A Dad,
If you do try internet dating, take the word of Privateman. A few months before he passed, he admitted that it took him about one hundred messages to get a first date. He was a professional writer and offered help with people as an internet dating coach. I wish that someone had told me that before I started. It is more frustration that most can deal with.
Fuzzie … I can confirm the Privateman’s observations … may he rest in peace. Online dating is horrible for men. Its hard to imagine how far women have sunk until you try it. Vain, stupid, opinionated … over value themselves and treat men like garbage. First thing you will learn is that women LIE THEIR ASSES OFF and don’t even think its wrong. They will post pics of themselves from years ago, pics of their sister, pics of random HOT chicks they steal off the internet. My advice would be if a girl has pics … add 30 to 50 lbs and that’s her reality. Add 5 yrs to her age. And as for everything else … its about the same … lies, lies and more lies. You quickly become aware that women are UNABLE to tell the truth … about anything. They say they want a relationship … because they don’t want to be called a slut … but they REALLY just want someone to fuck every other weekend … so if you want a relationship … what they said they wanted … THEY TREAT YOU LIKE SHIT. Why can’t they just say what they want ??? What the hell is wrong with them ? Nobody knows. I’ve said here before multiple times … women are mentally ill … and online dating just shows that in spades.
And be prepared to get treated like garbage. You say “Hi !” and she treats you like a pervert, pedophile … who just got caught raping a baby. I am not exaggerating. I have been on all the major sites over the years … paid and free and they are all horrible for men. I will admit that I haven’t tried some of the newer ones like Tinder … lets just say that any woman … who judges a man in 10 seconds … based on his appearance … is fucked up in the head. Which means, of course, that ANY woman who uses Tinder is fucked up in the head. And given its a very popular app … gives you what you get. Women are fucked up in the head.
Best advice I ever heard was to treat online dating like women do. Go find some hot pics of a tall, tanned swimmer dude on the internet … AND SAY THAT”S YOU. Then lie your ass off … just like women do. Will you get dates ? Yep !!! And then be a dick just like women are … REFUSE TO PAY FOR ANYTHING UNTIL SHE LETS YOU FUCK HER. Yep … be just as big a lying cunt to women … as they are to men … and maybe you’ll win !!!!
Lol, in other words … no, you won’t. All you’ll do is what all these lying cunts do. WASTE YOUR TIME. But here is the difference … women get their ass kissed, they get the attention, they get the messages, they get asked out … THEY NEED TO DO NOTHING BUT PUT UP FAKE PICS AND SOME LIES TO GET THEIR EGO STROKED … WHICH IS WHAT THEY WANT … ATTENTION. So, basically, men do all the work and get nothing. So even if you play THEIR GAME and post fake pics … say you’re 6-2 and a medical MD and are a private pilot and post fake super hot pics. YOU AS THE MAN STILL HAVE TO DO ALL THE WORK. AND YOU STILL GET NOTHING IN THE END.
So best advice for men … is stay the hell away from online dating. It will waste your time and money and in the end you will get you NOTHING for all your time, effort, and money. NOTHING !!!!! Privateman was right. He was a writer. And a dating coach. Took him contacting 100 women to get 1 date. And as I said … during that date … he found out the pics where fake, the women lied about everything on her profile (said what she thought men wanted to hear) … and they had NOTHING IN COMMON. If she would have just been honest … he wouldn’t have asked her out at all … but women can’t be. They don’t want to admit the truth … especially that they are overweight, not attractive, and men want sex and they won’t provide that. So there is ZERO reason for a man to want to be with her. So they LIE, LIE, and LIE some more.
Men … just don’t do online dating. Women have ruined it. You’re just wasting your time.
Mrga,
I have to agree. Women can milk online dating for attention and men just get nowhere. It is a shame, because if they used it for its intended purpose, it would be great.
A wonderful comment over at Dalrocks.
We can talk about her physical looks all day long…but it’s her heart that is unattractive. That’s a main reason why I don’t get memezmerized by looks anymore…and figure out what her personality is.
“Unless they themselves are in a healthy, happy, functional relationship, I choose to say, “thanks but no thanks.” Because if they aren’t living it themselves, how could they possibly give good advice?” —- This shows beautiful feminine wisdom. ABSOLUTELY only take advice from people who are where you want to be.
Another day … another rant. Not sure Match.com does this anymore but rumours from several years ago were this. When you sign up for match.com DO NOT USE YOUR ACTUAL ADDRESS. Or more accurately … postal code. Why ? Because … like the spying that google and apple and the government does … they got algos that monitor everything. Like who is a good Match for who. And remember they are in the biz to make a profit. And a man finding a woman and getting OFF match.com does NOT cause them to make profits. So … here is what people figured out. WHEN you sign up … it wants your age. Men like women their age to a few years younger. So lets say you’re 45 … women 40-45 would be good for you. Match.com will EXCLUDE women of that age group. Are you white ? Black ? Asian ? Hispanic ? Whatever Race you are l… they will predict what race you are seeking AND EXCLUDE THEM from searches. How about height and weight ? You’re average height and average weight (for a man) … then the algos know that men prefer a woman smaller and more pettite than they are. Man is 5-10 … they’d prefer a woman 5-2 to 5-7 … so that is what the Algos EXCLUDE. If you create an account on Match.com and provide the info the profile wants you to provide … MATCH.COM will make sure that ANYONE WHO IS A GOOD MATCH FOR YOU … WILL NEVER BE FOUND !!! So … sign up some more … pay some more money … beat your head into the wall !!!
Does that make sense ? When you sign up … Match.com profiles you and EXCLUDES ANYONE WHO WOULD BE A GOOD MATCH FOR YOU. Unless she lived 50 miles away and who wants to date someone when you got an hour commute ? So the wisdom was … pick a place 30 to 50 miles away from where you are AND SIGN UP FROM THERE … that means girls in your area … will actually show up in Match.com’s search. Yup … pick a place 50 miles from where you live and claim you are from there and the girls in your neighborhood will start to magically show up. Put in your real address and the girl across the street WHO IS PERFECT FOR YOU … magiically DISAPPEARS !!!
POF is even worse. A man-hating cunt who went by “Cowboy” ran the forums to FUCK OVER MEN and GIVE WOMEN THE BIGGEST PUSSY PASS ON THE PLANET. Yep that two faced lying faggot let women say and do ANYTHING to men. But if a man says ANYTHING ANTI WOMAN … LIKE … “who are you to say … from your pictures you’re overweight” … AND INSTANT BAN !!!
And this lying faggot just didn’t ban. POF is spying on you like the US Gov .. they stole your IP address and banned anything and everything that comes from there. Different user ? NOPE. Different email address ? NOPE. Used a VPN ? NOPE. Used TOR to disguise your address ? NO… NO, NO, FUCKING NO !!! The lying faggots at POF WILL BAN ANYONE AND ANYTHING COMING FROM YOUR IP ADDRESS … YOUR REAL PHYSICAL ADDRESS … BAN ANYTHING … AND REFUSE TO ACCEPT ANYTHING THAT ATTEMPTS TO DISGUISE (GET AROUND THE MAN HATING CUNTS WHO BANNED YOU). That fucking lying asshole “Cowboy” has banned MILLIONS of men from POF. Any man with 1/2 a dick has been banned. That’s a big reason why the OBESE FUCKING PIGS on POF can treat men like absolute garbage and get away with it. Any man who stands up to these obese pigs GETS BANNED and it stick. The loud mouthed cunts remain to treat men like shit. Yeah, its really that easy as a man. GIVE THE FUCK UP. You can’t fight the cunts and win. So just quit.
No man with 1\2 a brain would ever do online dating.
MGTOW baby !!!
@Mega, a friend of mine who was a widow in her then early 50sswore they were doing the same to her, only sending long distance/out of area “matches” while at the same time urging her to “upgrade” her monthly fee to “find more matches.” What a crock!
That said, I know a few people who did meet via match (back in the olden days) and they all seem happy. Maybe it was later that they figured out people finding someone was bad for biz?
Mega,
It’s not like I don’t believe you, but for Match to do that would be diabolical. To put it in a parallel, if I had a fishing pond and I charged people to fish there, how long would I be in business if nobody caught any fish? Still, I can see how it would be possible for Match to do as you say and I take your story about POF and “Cowboy” on faith.
The worst that I ever heard was about Ashley Madison, the cheating website. For every ten thousand men, there were three women. The rest were fake profiles.
I think that all dating sites are like this. I signed up for one (not seriously, but for the purposes of investigating something) and was seeing the same sorts of results. I could get different results by tweaking the profile parameters. I also thought it was humorous that these sites have fake accounts in order to get you to upgrade to communicate with them.
They make money by sandboxing your account until you sign up for premium access. Then they continue to make money by only giving you enough success to find a few matches that might be successful enough for a first date and little more.
was about to go to bed … but checked in here so I’ll post an update. Fuzzie … Match.com is no better than Ashley Madison. Here is some news. Match is a PAY SITE … you have to pay a monthly fee in order to SEND messages. So got a question for you … HOW MANY WOMEN ARE GOING TO PAY TO SEND MESSAGES. They can join for free and RECEIVE ALL THE MALE ATTENTION THAT COMES THEIR WAY … don’t have to pay a fucking dime to do that. And that’s what they want ATTENTION … make no mistake, that’s what they want.
So along with the lies and fake news … Match.com advertises they have like 100 million members … what they don’t tell you is that ALMOST NONE OF THEM ARE PAID MEMBERS AND THEREFORE CAN”T DO A FUCKING THING ON THEIR SITE. What this means for men … is if they search and find 100 women who meet their criteria … and message them all and get 1 response back. Its because of this 98% of the 100 women they messaged CANNOT RESPOND BACK … EVEN IF THEY WANTED TOO. Because, of course, they aren’t paying the monthly fee.
And here is where it gets diabolical … as you said. MATCH.COM refuses to identify who is a paid member and who isn’t. So you message all these women … assuming they will respond if they want to … but they CAN”T. So you are just beating your head against the wall. And here is where it gets really ugly … if you PAY to be a member you can UPGRADE YOUR MEMBERSHIP AND PAY EVEN MORE … so if you message someone … THEY CAN RESPOND BACK … ASSUMING THEY EVEN READ IT. Yep … women do nothing and pay nothing … men pay, pay and pay some more. And end up groveling and begging for ANYONE TO RESPOND AND WILL EVEN PAY FOR THAT PRIVILEGE. Women do nothing but put up a profile … men do that and then PAY FOR THE PRIVILEGE OF GETTING TREATED LIKE HUMAN GARBAGE.
POF is equally deceiving and WORSE in many ways. Here’s an example of what POF does. One big indicator of whether a woman is active on a site … is HOW RECENTLY she was on the site. Make sense ? If the girl hasn’t checked her messages or logged into the site for months … if you send her a message … its probably a waste of time. So POF had to FUCK THIS UP AND DECEIVE MEN. So what they did was create a mobile app … for your phone … and women are addicted to their phones … they downloaded the POF App and used it to check their profile. Cool. Except their App … logs in EVERY FUCKING DAY and makes it look like she was active and checking her messages. But she wasn’t. IT WAS A FUCKING LIE … A LIE TO TRICK AND DECEIVE MEN. The GIRL HAD HER FUCKING PHONE CHARGED UP … SHE DIDN”T CHECK HER FUCKING MESSAGES !!!! AND SENDING HER A MESSAGE IS A WASTE OF FUCKING TIME !!! And this goes on for months … you see she “LOGGED IN TODAY” and you send her a message … AND SHE DOESN”T EVEN GET IT … BECAUSE SHE HASN”T CHECKED HER MESSAGES FOR MONTHS !!! Lies, lies, and more lies.
And another Ashely Madison factoid … when you try to DELETE YOUR PROFILE on most dating sites … they don’t actually do it. For Match and POF and others … what they do is re-locate your profile to another city … and replace your pics with fake pics. Part of their 100 millon members, none of whom are real. Who’s to know if they did something like that ? But Ashley Madison was the worst. They actually WOULD delete your profile … IF YOU PAID THEM TO DO IT. Yup … no way to delete it … unless you paid them extra dollars to make it so. But after they got hacked … it came out … EVEN THAT WAS A LIE … you paid them fucking dollars to delete your profile AND THEY STILL DIDN”T DELETE IT.
Sorry for the rant over the last few days … its kinda of a sore topic with me. Kinda how I ended up taking the Red Pill, actually. Online dating SUCKS FOR MEN and was a huge wakeup call for me. Online dating exists for 2 reasons TO FUCK MEN OUT OF THEIR MONEY and to REWARD WOMEN FOR BEING OBESE PIGS WHO HATE MEN AND GET TO TREAT MEN LIKE SHIT BECAUSE THEY HAVE THE BIGGEST PUSSY PASS ON THE PLANET. I always thought things were supposed to be “Fair” … till I ran across Online Dating … and got tired of being treated like garbage and tried to figure out what was going on. Lead me on a strange journey. But glad I took that ride. Learned a lot of things along the way.
Any man who thinks he can meet someone off of online dating … needs his head examined. It exists for 2 reasons … to serve women … and to fuck men out of their money. Sooner men learn this … the better.
Fuzzie, I’m hoping that WP works long enough to actually post this. Just something you might consider if you want to think outside of the box about meeting women. Don’t let the name of the website put you off.
http://www.westernwomensuck.com/2012/09/18/agency-review/
Mega,
It is good to know that I am not the only on dissatisfied with online dating. It is bad enough and they have to make it worse?
fuzzie, I responded on the latest thread. hope I gave some advice that helps …
I was a victim to friendly advice for a long time. Even now I fall prey to it but, not like before. Amazing post 🙂