Tonight I by chance witnessed a relationship that from the little I saw, my immediate thought for him was, “Run!”
It started w a follow up visit on Dick’s surgery, complete w Jane, my youngest, and myself.
After a good review by the nurse, they wanted to go to their favorite place to eat, the local Moose lodge.
While there a guy joined our table and seemed to be giving me subtle IOI’s. He was maybe early 50s, decent looking if not buff, seemed like a very nice guy. Of course being taken, I did not give any encouragement and acted like I didn’t notice the IOI business.
Soon after a gal and what appeared to be her mom joined the table. She called him “Hon” and then launched into her drama of the day, her having to spend “hours” surviving his mother.
He looked uncomfortable but said nothing. At this point I was just curious, so I sat back, sipped my drink, and watched it unfold. (I was having a White Russian, always my go to but now even more so that I know anti-Trump folks get spun by it! Lol.)
She was maybe late 40s, early 50s, in good shape, cute, blond. Dressed fashionably.
Introductions were made and turns out she is his fiancée, with a date set for September? Interesting…
Soon the gal had a table of gals hanging on her every word as she told a tale about how she needed to polish up her ring, and used HIS toothbrush to do so. From his expression I could tell he was not ok w it.
I could not resist, at an opportune moment, asking, “Why did you use his and not your own?” She shot me an evil eye, then explained is hadn’t crossed her mind!
He added, he threw out the toothbrush, and bought another. (Ouch! Good for him!)
She made a bad joke about what would really happen to his toothbrush if she ever got mad. The other ladies laughed. I joked to him maybe he should just get some Listerene now and dunk his brush then wait 30 seconds every time before use.
She made a snarky comment. I replied, “Well, maybe if he ever does anything worth that you should just walk rather than use his toothbrush to clean the toilet.” She agreed.
Sad thing is he did not at all seem like that kind of guy. I worry for him, but these are their problems not mine, and they were strangers.
I planted the few red pill seeds I could. We’ll see. Will they make it to the alter?
If I could advise him, it would be this, “RUN!!!!!”
What do you think? Please share in the comments!
Notes From a Red Pill Girl 
They’re not married yet and already she is treating him with unconcealed contempt in public? Someone should tell him that it will only get worse. No one is that much of a masochist. He needs to leave town. No forwarding address.
I could give my opinion (about the current state of marriage), but I’ve already done it numerous times.
I mean… The title of this post is “Run!!!!”.
This honestly seems to be the norm though. Typical princess with some unhappy dude. We can bet that if he doesn’t run then she is going to balloon and then later take his money. Even worse if they have a child, especially at that age (Like the SAHD couple I mentioned yesterday). I don’t think that it ends up well for anyone. To add to that… Early 50s? You’d think he would have learned his lesson by now.
Most guys are IOI for any attractive woman. Could also be that he just wanted to escape for a few minutes and imagine that he wasn’t with that thing he’s engaged to.
A real Beta to put up with stuff like this.
I think that you’re right. As are the comments.
A good question for him would be; Why are you getting married? What’s in it for you?
Oops, make that two questions.
I’ve heard that any man considering marriage should go and spend the day in the divorce courts…very preventative. Not sure how you might slip that into the conversation though.
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Having said all that, I hope all’s well with you and your beau(?)
Good call! I dislike nothing more than when peoole desperest their SO’s or Ex’s in front of others. Keep tjat to yourself or handle it like an adult! This lady sounds like a shrew. She flat out disrespected him. If I ever did THAT to my man, there would be consequences.
Pardon typos, insomnia
Another thought, that he showed some interest in you says that he knows, at least subconsciously, that his intended is not a good match. If he is waiting for another woman to present herself as an alternate, it may not happen. He needs to break.
I have a friend marrying in 2 months, whose wife-to-be is already subtly exhibiting this kind of signs.
I’m meeting him for drinks in a couple of days to redpill him a bit. Yes I’m aware of the probable futility of it but I can’t live with myself having seen it and doing nothing.
Girl is sweet enough but his betaness is already getting to her.
Good call ms bloom … good advice … RUN !!!
Unfortunately the situation you described is far too common. Where were the other ladies using peer pressure to show her that disrespecting her man in public was not cool ??? Yeah, you were the only one doing it … where were the other ladies ? They are right there … already doing the same to there man or if they were in her shoes they WOULD be doing it. There is no accountability for bad behavior for women. Not from society, not from other women, not from men (the victims) and certainly not from the courts. Any man who’s been thru a divorce knows that. Women act badly … because they can … and nothing bad ever comes from it.
And before everyone jumps on the guy … and its already started. BLAME THE BETA !!! Its not that simple. First … where is that guy’s role models ? Father ? Brothers ? Does he get taught to stand up for himself in the media ? Does he get treated fairly by society ? The courts ? NO. The guy gets shit on by everyone … so she is no different. AND HE KNOWS NO DIFFERENT. Its the way its ALWAYS BEEN … for years. The guy is probably divorced and his Ex shit on him for years too. So its normal and what he’s used to. In other words … he doesn’t know HOW TO STAND UP FOR HIMSELF AND HAS NO IDEA THE PATH THIS IS HEADED DOWN … it starts with a little disrespectful behavior and ends with his life destroyed. Yes … he should run but he doesn’t know that.
In other words … he hasn’t taken the Red Pill. Because nobody gave him a choice … “Here’s the Red one and he’s the Blue one … which one do you want ?” All he’s ever known is the Blue one and he doesn’t even know the Red one exists. How can you blame him for not knowing something … because no one ever told him ???
Guess I’m bitching about the other men on RP blogs … always putting down Blue Pill guys and acting like they are garbage or stupid or something. Ton is perfect example … acts AMOG … and treats other men like shit … when there is nothing wrong with these other men at all … other than NOBODY EVER TOLD THEM THE TRUTH. And yes all these Beta Men are the ones who built our roads and bridges and buildings and computers and cell phones. They built everything … not some Alpha running game and fucking as many women as he could.
I use the analog of a football team. The Alpha is the quarterback. Without RBs to hand the ball off to, and receivers to throw the ball to and without an offensive line to block for him … THE ALPHA IS NOTHING. In fact, without a solid defense to keep them in the game … he is STILL NOTHING. Without all the BETAS … ALPHAS ARE NOTHING.
And a question for Ton and all the Beta haters. When was the last time you saw a star QB running down HIS OFFENSIVE LINE ??? Calling them pussies and weak and not man enough ? You don’t do you ? Why.
Its time for men to stand up for other men … not run them down. People like Rollo and some others and even Ms Bloom here know the truth. If we want to turn things around its about EDUCATION and getting others to see the truth. Introduce them to the Red Pill. Give them a choice. Yes, most will probably not take it … and that’s ok. At least you tried. Kinda hard to undue decades of Blue Pill brainwashing … it usually takes a disaster of some sort to act as a wake up call. But its certainly way better than just running people down or pretending you’re better than someone else. I’ll get off my soapbox now.
Mega
Why we love RPG so much.
She was running the block for him. In fact she countered a full blitz.
All of us, Ton included, were blue at one point.
If anything we go overboard cause it is so easy to default blue.
And if you have been on any of the boards for a while you know its less about alpha beta than it is blue, red. (Personally I prefer awakened, asleep)
Its about seeing the behaviour.
Then its individual choice: call it out, avoid it, accept it.
There are only those three choices.
The only thing we jump on is pity party.
Why is she so mean to me.
If this guy accepts this crap now then he is accepting whats coming.
And if its better than being alone for him then so be it.
But if I am blocking for a QB he damn well better throw or handoff.
If he just cant decide and dances, Im gonna open the line.
I have unique position.
I truly dont have to hold my tongue for anyone.
Not bosses, not bankers, not a wfe how gets me.
And certainly not for strangers.
Its why I have few friends but die hard ones.
I like simple questions. No room to hide.
“Why would you do that?”
“Do what?”
“Use his toothbrush that goes in his mouth for something disgusting. Why would you do that?”
It forces them to justify a position without bafflegarb.
When in doubt just ask directly “,Why would you do that.”
P.s. never use “what were you thinking” cause that opens the door to virtue signaling.
And ask him
“You’re engaged to her. Why would you do that?”
Its not picking on him as mega said but it is forcing him to see reality.
He doesnt know better. This forces him to reassess.
Why its such a good question.
Destroy the plague that virtue signaling is we should
I didn’t get the sense his IOI was an offer, it was shy and such, not a bold pick up IOI. And I was wearing a cute sundress. Most guys look when a gal wears a dress. But it did make me wonder how all in he is. Maybe secretly dreaming of escape.
It was another gal, a maybe pretty back in the day but now heavy set brunette who shamed him first, “So did you pick a date yet?” Then he said sheepishly sept. All the ladies were clearly on team woman, most of them I am guessing frivorcees themselves, only a few had a man along. Jane was fawning over her. I didn’t mean to be a shit, but I couldn’t help myself. Maybe she’ll ask herself someday, “yeah why did I use his toothbrush?” But probably not. By his reaction I could tell he’s asking…
@Spawny agreed. All is swell w us! 🙂 No drama, no games, it’s awesome! He’s awesome! I’d never disrespect him like that.
Their body language was telling, also. She mostly stood even though there was a chair for her. He sat, slumped over, eyes down. It seemed already that she was the lead. He was her schleppie. Her attitude was full entitlement. The whole thing gave me the chills.
So be it. His choice.
No one makes you walk up the aisle.
Staying afterwards, yes with kids or finances, you can be without options
But only You say I (as in me, myself, voluntarily) Do.
from the mgtowhorseman
“Why we love RPG so much.
She was running the block for him. In fact she countered a full blitz.”
Correct, lol. RPG did her part.
“But if I am blocking for a QB he damn well better throw or handoff.
If he just cant decide and dances, Im gonna open the line.”
Again, correct. But here is the point I was trying to make. The QB wouldn’t be in the game unless he’d been trained. He’d watched football for years on tv, knew what a good QB does and what a bad one does. He’s had coaching, lots of it. Learned the plays from the playbook. And practiced and practiced and practiced. So he KNOWS WHAT TO DO BECAUSE SOMEONE TOLD HIM AND SHOWED HIM WHAT TO DO. So if he gets in the game and can’t or won’t do it … well, yeah. Open the damn line and let someone take him down hard and next time … he’ll think faster, decide better, make the right play. That’s how it works. Men know this.
The difference here is the none of these blue pill men have ever been taught what to do. What works ? How to be a man. They don’t know. And even worse … THEY HAVE BEEN LIED TO. That was my biggest realization when I took the Red Pill. The realization that everyone was LYING TO ME. What they tell me works … be yourself, be a nice guy, etc … IT DOESN”T WORK. So … all these beta men. They aren’t stupid. They aren’t bad men. THEY JUST DON”T KNOW.
So … somebody needs to tell them. RPG does her part. And I try to … in my life. Some of the guys that post in the online forums … sometimes I wonder … in real life … how good of a father are they ? Brother. Friend. Got the balls to tell your friend the girl he thinks he is in love with … is a gold digging whore who will likely ruin his life ? Yes, these convos are hard … and even harder for women … as RPG knows. But it needs to be done … if this mess is ever going to get fixed.
To be more accurate i started off as a natural dark triad and went blue pill based on bad marriage advice
I’m with mega on this. We’re all on the same team. The point is that people don’t know about the lie until they (typically) experience it, and can choose to accept the truth or not.
And since we are all on the same team, it’s important to try to lead others, carefully, methodically. There is nothing gained by hating or putting someone else down.
RPG – Nothing more attractive in the Summer than a beautiful woman in a sundress. That’s obviously why you caught his eye. I’d pick a woman like that over any woman that wears little. I’ve got no interest in a woman that doesn’t have modesty. Cosmo will tell women that it’s okay to dress like trash because that gets a guy’s attention. Sure, but for the wrong reasons. He wants to sleep with her, but wants to marry the woman in the sundress.
Ton – Sorry to hear that. I did get that you had some bad marriage experience from one of your previous posts. I think that a lot of us had some bad marriage advice. Well, at the very least, we get no marriage advice other than: “You should marry her!”. Most people never talk of what that really means and the long-term impact, especially with today’s sad state of affairs.
No smart man wants to marry any woman….. unless she is worth a lot of fucking money, 3 doctors or more confirm she has 90 days or less to live and she has no one else to inherit her money.
Two doctors enough it would be?
If its her or living alone the rest of his life, he should take living alone. This is what the term “unacceptable” means.
Ton – Sounds like you’ve got sons and grandchildren, based upon your blog posts. Curious as to what you’ve taught them about it and how they’ve dealt with it. I’ll be in that situation one of these days. I get the impression that you’re pretty much extreme MGTOW even though you have women in your life and may not use that term to define yourself. You just do whatever the hell you want (which is where I’m at in this part of my life).
@Dad Ton told his daughter to marry but I bet he’ll tell his sons the opposite. A woman in many ways is a fool to want any less, for a guy it’s the opposite. That’s always been the rub…. even more so today w no social constraints protecting men in exchange for commitment!
Don’t much cotton to doctors Master Yoda. In general the more formal schooling the less trustworthy
I am what I am, though nothing on comparison to the great I am.
In my life I have been a natural, a married cuckold AFC on life support, estranged from my children, mgtow, a hardcore poonhound and a shit ton more. I support all the various reactions men may choose expect staying blue pill or doing the purple pill. I think its natural for most men to move through the various categories
I encouraged my daughter to marry because it is what’s best for her. And I am old school in the sense that now she belongs to another clan. My concern for her and her children is different then the concern of my sons
I told my oldest son I would break most of the bones in his body if he married. My son recently had his 1st bastard child and best I can tell marriage never crossed his mind. He has seen to much and has to much to loose.
Marriage carries different risk factors for men and women; there is no practical way to off set the risks for men yet my wealth, the wealth of my oldest son and our proven track record with casual social and professional violence off sets the She-Ton’s risks considerably
Ton – Thanks for the input. Not sure that I’d tell my son that I’d break his bones, but I bet it got the point across. Wish someone would have said it to me. At the very least, he’s going to know more than I did.
You’d like that Ukrainian doc, Ton! 😉
The Ton loves boobs
About all any of us can do but nothing is dumber then being in the military and being married