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Yesterday an old friend from college stopped by with his new girlfriend (she also went to college with us, but I don’t remember her.) As she and I talked, I was amazed at how red pill aware she was, although I doubt she frequents these parts. She understood many of the concepts, and was tuned into how feminism has gone far beyond its original intent. And the destruction it had caused for men.
As she went on and on about such things I wondered, “How did she learn all this in the mainstream?”
A little while later she revealed she’d been an exotic dancer up until four years ago. Ah ha! Then it all made sense. She’s worked for years in a profession that had laid bare, no pun intended, the dynamics between the genders.
From reading blogs written by professional dancers, escorts, and courtesans, I have learned such women often understand men, and things from a man’s point of view, better than most.
My friend was clearly uncomfortable about his date’s candor. And he was also getting annoyed at her crass behavior (she could up her ladylike game.) I doubt they will be together long term, but it was interesting to meet her.
Funny had she not said so, I never would have suspected what her former “250k a year job” was. And I’d be curious how and why she decided to hang up the stilettos. Perhaps we’ll get to that part next time?
Life sure is a colorful cast of characters!
RPG, I once had a friend like yours … ex stripper. And can confirm … women like that understand men and know men and what men want … their basic needs … and they know that is not wrong or bad. Men are not bad. Men are not wrong. And mostly that men are not rapists. Screwed up in the head, mentally ill men are rapists. But not most men. Most men are good and decent and treat women with respect. Just about all men, actually, strippers find this out first hand.
Most women who do this “retire” when it becomes too much of an effort to compete. There are always younger, hotter girls coming along. And, yes, it is a competition. Think a professional athlete like a basketball player or football player … an older, more experienced player has advantages. And they can work and strive to keep in shape to keep the younger players at bay. But at some point … they can’t. So they retire. Michael Jordan, Wayne Gretzky … all of them. Strippers, escorts, etc do the same. They cannot make that kind of money doing anything else (again, like athletes) … so they continue until it impossible to ignore. And like pro athletes … they know THE WALL … unlike most women … they know it and know they cannot fight it. And accept it … and walk away gracefully … which is what your new friend is trying to do.
From reading blogs written by professional dancers, escorts, and courtesans, I have learned such women often understand men, and things from a man’s point of view, better than most.
Paid well to listen to what men have to say they are
agree with Mega. it is a short term high paid career. The smart ones know it and bank 100k year for 10 years and retire at 30 and have the money to invest in a mainstream business.
The rest think it will go forever and put the money up their nose. Then you see the wrecks in the low end bars. 30 looking like 50. Nothing is sadder because you know its self inflicted.
The ultimate red piller naturally would be a courtesan (I like that idea). Escort, stripper whatever. Their income depends on them adapting to the needs of each man for as long as he needs her. Really no one man stays with a stripper all night. So in one shift she adapts to 4-10 men all different. Many just want a girl to listen to them, pay attention to them.
Many times, especially just after work, the ladies retire to the back cause the guys are ignoring them. We go cause its the only bar in town without either pounding music or a bunch of entitled femenists there. Most of my buddies go to sit at the bar, backs to the stage, and talk freely as men. If there is a close game on the tv the guys wont even know there are strippers in the room.
And yes we do look at the ladies. Friday nights are different but its the young bucks blowing off steam.
A red pill stripper knows the money is about fueling the hope of a guy that he can seduce a beautiful (or even just ok but not fridgid) lady. The illusion that he is interesting, that the game is worth it.
Actually strippers pay femenists and women in general a huge favour. Without the occassional false win of a good stripper letting him mentally seduce her, many good beta men,( not the lowest, the average breadwinner who repeatedly gets shot down) who are the fallback guys would simply quit the game.
So ladies, as you exit the carousel looking for a guy to “oh forget about my past silly”, thank the red pill stripper who kept that illusion alive for you.
oh. and tip your servers.
I think that your gut instinct will turn out. I was going to give a warning to your friend, but it sounds like they are socially incompatible to make it long term. It is not so much the experience with sex, it is the ability to turn attraction into money that worries me.
Yoda,
With their eyes and ears open and their mouths shut, they can’t help but acquire wisdom. I can imagine you saying this to the Padawans.
Yes, Padawans learn much from strippers they can
The “listening part” of course I mean
The important part is to keep eyes and ears open while keeping the mouth shut.
Perhaps RPG’s acquaintance cane to knowledge this way too?
Bloom. Check for my comment please.
https://acculturated.com/millennial-women/
From the comments
Women hooking up with older men…. a new and earthshaking event.
As one wag put it; “Well, Pajama Boy isn’t exactly the guy to set your loins a-tingle now, is he?”.
And
I am a single 50-year old and date women on both sides of my age. Although youthful appearance is nice, you have to talk to each other and I find the younger women tend to have less baggage than older women. A LOT less. Hearing about problem children and idiot ex-husbands doesn’t entertain us. Although this is not true of all women closer to my age, it applies to a lot of single women over 40.
I used to avoid younger women, because of the stigma, but found that I enjoy the company better if I ignore the “rules”. In my late 30’s and early 40’s, that meant late 20-somethings. Now it means 30 or so.
Speaking of stigma, guess who gives these younger women the hardest time? Women my age hahahaha
And
This all seems to be based on the disparity between what this generation of men are told to be like, and what their female counterparts really want (which is what every generation of female wants, when rendered down). All the headache inducing crap aside: men want respect, and women want love. Pretend doesn’t cut it.
And
Women have always liked more established older men, what’s new here is that feminism has brainwashed Millennials into being sexually unattractive herbs, so their female counterparts have to date Gen X to find real men. Thanks feminists.
Hmmm recurring theme. After conditioning men for twenty years to be Alan Alda turns out they still want Alan Ladd. (Mista Shane).
Horseman,
While you think that they would lighten up on the requirements as they get older, they don’t. They just keep adding new ones. It gets more that a little silly.
There is a new post at Spawny’s
https://spawnyspace.wordpress.com/2017/08/14/i-just-want-a-simple-life-in-this-scary-world/
Had an interesting afternoon today. Took the GF to a local wine tasting event with an outdoor activities group she’s in and who I used to be with. So I know a lot of the people in the group too. So we get there … and I see someone I used to know and start talking to her. A much older lady … and signal to the GF to mingle. Well, the lady I start talking too is a known motor mouth and goes on and on and on. About 20 mins later she’s still talking … and the GF is headed inside (the event was outdoors with a band) to do a wine tasting and choose something to drink. She is accompanied with another guy … I catch her eye and signal … are you going to choose a wine and get a yes … bingo … I dump the older lady I’m talking to and tag along. So … the GF is a typical female … well, not that typical. She’s actually fairly masculine in many ways but in other ways … typical female. That’s one of the things I like about her, actually: she is not TYPICAL … but a bit different. But she is typical in that being female … she likes a male to lead and that is normally me … but in this case … the other dude is leading her … and I’m tagging along and I’m not happy. This is supposed to be MY GIG and who is this intruder ???
Which is really weird for me. I’m not normally the jealous type. Actually I AM NOT THE JEALOUS TYPE. But here I am … mate guarding … the girl is mine and who the fuck is this dude trying to get in on the action ??? So we go inside and taste a few wines. Dynamic as kinda weird … GF in the middle … knowing she is mine … but liking the male attention. We taste 3 wines each … they are discussing it … so I make up my mind … I want a bottle of the sweet white and order one. Other dude wants in on it and slips me few bucks to share it … which was cool. Guess he figured out the score.
GF later tells me … that he’s married and has kids. Or so he has implied to the group. My thoughts … he’s a single loser … using the group to scout out chicks. He thought my girls was single (never seen me before) and she’s attractive … so he’s running his game.
It’s kinda weird after you’ve taken the Red Pill and learned how men and women operate. You see things … that you would have never seen before. And you actually do things differently too … I wasn’t being a jealous jerk, lol … I was just signalling to that other dude … this girl is mine … stay the fuck away … and he got the message. And my girl did too.
It all worked out fine but was kind of an eye opener.
LOL they have an ecconmic reason to understand men
“Honest” women have the reverse
I can confirm that generally speaking younger women come with less bullshit. I habe also noticed they tend to be less hostile toward men in general and less focused on cash and prizes. The experiences vs things generation
Referring to article posted by Horseman – I’m a bit younger than some here, but even when I was last dating (15-20 years ago) dating apps and websites weren’t a thing. They had just started to pop up but weren’t exactly mainstream. I’m probably on that threshold of guys that they describe who wouldn’t Tinder.
Unsure if I’m going to resort to apps or sites to meet women when the time comes. I prefer to meet people the old fashioned way, and it already seems to be working in the respect that I’ve found some new friends just by getting out again with my new free time.
I have already decided that I’m only interested in younger women. Women my age, and older, don’t really seem to offer me what I want right now. I can’t imagine that any other single mothers are much different than my ex wife. Present company excluded, of course.
Horseman let me check the comment cue…
Found it! For some reason it was hung up in the spam cue. Sorry about that!
Sadly this gal did not save any of her income, and is now living in a camp trailer parked on a property that has a big house with six renters and 6 more in trailers. She calls it an “adult commune” and has lived there for two years. Sadly, her 13 year old daughter lives with her 21 year old daughter, bc she can’t live with her mom.
The next day my friend stopped by solo (he lives in another city about an hour and a half away, but comes to visit friends and family and also this gal.) I asked him about that, and he admitted it’s not good, she could get a place with her kids but chooses not to, for selfish reasons. He said she went thru a bunch of awful stuff in childhood and is a neurotic mess. He’s tried to break it off but she freaks out so bad he takes her back.
Sadly he did have a great girlfriend and I figured they would marry, but she was older and unable to have kids. At 46, he’s now kind of going thru baby rabies, so broke up w his former girlfriend. The former girlfriend also had some medical issue that made sex uncomfortable so she stopped doing it, another reason they broke up despite being really well matched.
Anyway we talked about how the current girlfriend can’t have kids either (thankfully!) and how maybe he could do better. It sucks to break up w a gal who goes psycho from abandonment and other issues, but staying w her just so she doesn’t isn’t a solution either.
RPG,
The plot thickens. I think that your friend has difficulty keeping himself out of trouble. I think that I know what keeps her at the adult commune, plenty of drama. At least it is at second hand.
Mega,
It sounds like you like GF a lot too.
He’s got “baby rabies” so he’s hooking up with a stripper, and his ex couldn’t have babies (let alone sex) so he’s hooking up with potentially one of the the most hypersexual women possible? And she’s got two kids, who basically raised themselves? And she basically lives at “the stripper compound”?
Yeah, your buddy is in trouble. That’s an article in its own right.
That actually makes a lot of sense why women of that area of work would know, I never thought about that.
Fuzzie, yeah we get along really well. Been spending more and more time together as the months go by. Pretty much every weekend we are together. Last weekend is a good example … she came over on Fri after I got off work, stayed the night … the next day we did shit till 2pm. She went home and returned at noon the next day … we did shit (wine tasting) and she went home about 8 pm. That’s pretty typical these days.
Just damn glad that I took the red pill, though. That helps a ton. We are naturally suited to be good companions. But if I was a blue pill pussy … it would have been over long ago. That I know. Just enjoying the ride …
Mega, I am happy for you.
Alex,
I think that RPG has been too busy. I have been a regular since she started. Would you allow me to welcome you?
Bloom
Related to the daily mail article I linked to in your last post about no men for older women.
Pay attention about 6:45 in. “She divorces, raises her kids alone until what 18 then starts dating. Now she is pissed because Mr. 45 Perfect wants a twenty something because he wants to breed? She is twenty years past her reproductive best before date. Of course he wants a twenty something in her prime.”
Warning Profanity and (realistic) Triggering Truthbombs about older women.
At the start they are vulger about would they bother to pick these girls up.
Realistically if he doesn’t find you attractive to approach how are you ever getting a chance to be witty and charming???
Sorry. It is what it is. We cant see your wonderful personality and career from across the room. But we can see your face and figure. That glance is all you get.
If its a bit harsh for your blog I won’t be offended if you take it down.
TFM has a Large following in the Red Pill Youtube verse.
Horseman … started to be a fan but frankly you just swung and missed. Ever read TRP on Reddit ? Most of the articles are written by 23 year old’s who think they got it all figured out. THEY in their infinite wisdom … got the whole universe figured out. You know … pussies who’ve never had a job. To have to show up EVERY DAY … for years. Decades. How many of these faggots ever worked at the same place for 20 years? How many ever been fired and had to grovel for the next job. How many been married. Had to be responsible for another human being. EVER HAD A KID AND WORRIED ABOUT KEEPING MOUTHS FED. How many been divorced. Been arrested and faced how the law really works. Any of those piss ants know what its like to grow old. Any ever seen a sibling die. Seen a parent die. Watch a parent wither away in the hospital while cancer eats them alive. Any of them ever been kicked in the nuts by life. AND THESE FAGGOTS THINK THEY GOT IT ALL FIGURED OUT. RIGHT.
Your TFM link reminded me of that. Faggots who don’t know shit. Know who considers 40 yr old women and 50 yr old women … YEAH … 40 YR OLD MEN AND 50 YR OLD MEN … not some 20 something faggot who thinks a 40 yr old is worthless because she can’t have kids anymore. A 40 yr old man usually isn’t worried about having kids and doesn’t mock someone his own age. She’s got a few wrinkles … well wake the fuck up … so do I. Yes, men will find much younger women sexy and want to fuck them. Its genetically baked in. But the truth is … if an older man wants a real relationship … he looks for someone close to his age … usually a bit younger. So if I’m 50 … a 45 yr old … LOOKS PRETTY DAMN GOOD.
Some of the comments are accurate, though. If there is a woman across the room who’s 50 lbs overweight … she might as well not exist. That is true. But treating all women over a certain age as having no value it patently untrue. And I will go even further and state this: a woman’s attitude is far more importantly as they grow older and lady readers of this blog should take note. If you are reasonably fit and have a good attitude … you will still be thought attractive and desired by men no matter your age. But if you’re overweight or if your a hate mongering cunt … who blames men for everything in the universe especially your own happiness … you will be sorely disappointed. Men do not exist in the universe to kiss your ass. You are not entitled to anything. And the golden rule applies. If you want men to respect you … then treat men with respect. That said, if you are reasonably attractive and have a good attitude, older women can usually find a man … if they are reasonable in who they are looking for. Again, due to society there are many women who are not reasonable … for example if an older women thinks a man 10 yrs younger than her is going to find her sexy … well … she’s just wrong. 10 yrs older … sure … 10 yrs younger … nope.
Sorry Horseman … just found that link offensive and just plain wrong in many ways. Juvenile really, like some kid who doesn’t know shit … but thinks he does.
I watched it and it should stand with a warning for harsh, down to brass tacks language. It was truthbomb after truthbomb after truthbomb. relentlessly. There is one thing that is overlooked, men will not consider women older than themselves for relationships. To do otherwise is an aberration. This video is powerful enough to deserve being bookmarked.
Fuzzie … there are truth bombs in there, for sure, … if you like it delivered from a 12 yr old. You are correct men will not consider women older than them … that is true, but my prior comments stand.
Mega,
I allow the young their vanity. Life will make them humble. Still, women of that age have to be brought down to Earth with respect to their expectations. Nothing is getting through to them.
As for the Red Pill on reddit, I have heard stories. I have little doubt it is very much as you say it is.
mega, the guys talked about having divorced in that video. At least one or more has. They indicated that they are at least in their ’30s. One guy said that “they are my age or older”, so probably one is in his ’40s. Bear in mind that it’s a MGTOW video, so they are obviously highly biased in favor of that.
I know that you are angry, but don’t assume that everyone is making the same choices that you are. For instance, I’m not staying for 20 years with any employer. That’s basically a great way to ruin your earning potential.
Also, I wouldn’t assume that we want to date someone the same age or older, just because that’s worked out for you. You may, and may have settled on a “good one”, but you are basically purple pilling yourself if you’re latching onto oneitis with an old lady just because you also have wrinkles. In fact, I don’t have any intention on ever dating women my age / older at all.
I’m not 40, but there could be a good chance that I would be if I settled down and had more kids with someone else. Truth is, I DO want more kids, but won’t be having them as a result of how how risky it is, I can’t possibly imagine that happening after I’ve seen what the truth is. Morons hop right back into marriage after a failed one. They marry a divorcee who blew up her previous marriage. Then they get divorced again when the “tingles” fade.
Respectfully, I disagree with almost everything that you posted. Yeah, they sound like a bunch of dorks but that doesn’t mean that what they say isn’t popular red pill opinion.
Furthermore, Fuzzie is right about “nothing getting through” to these people. The only thing that will change everyone is if you red pill everyone; slowly, with care, etc. If you believe the lies or swallow purple pill, then you aren’t going to stop any of this.
Mega – You have kids, right? I know that you implied as much previously. I know that I don’t want my son to live with the lies that we were all told, so we’ve got to step up.
Agreed the delivery is very crass hence the warnings.
But they call out the self serving and delussion of these type of woe is me Im alone (but ignore my bad choices) articles.
Sometimes shock works. Its the idea of calling them out not the delivery.
And many guys even my age talk like this to each other when alone amongst themselves.
Here is a much classier discussion of the same ideas.
The immortal Ian Ironwood over at the old Red Pill Room on what happens to women who divorce and then age thru to thier fifties.
http://theredpillroom.blogspot.ca/2013/03/youre-just-going-through-stage.html
Horseman, … congrats on the approach. I hit you kinda hard and you didn’t take it personal. And it wasn’t meant to be. So … awesome … you got that. We on the same page, man. Keep on … keeping on. People in the sphere should learn from this. We don’t have to agree on every thing. But at the end of the day, we gots lot more in common than the other team. And mostly, we are on the same page.
Mega
Thats what makes us different. Fuzz and Ton will never go for beers together but they listen and learn from each other. Its what we do. Its all good brother. Cheers.
I read the Ian Ironwood link. You are on to something. Frivorce has done more damage to relations between men and women than anyone knows. I can see why the women that TFM refers to don’t get it. They don’t want to take responsibility.
There is a new post at Spawny’s
https://spawnyspace.wordpress.com/2017/08/16/yes-it-does-seem-that-way/
RPG, do you remember what in particular she said that convinced you she understood men better than most women do? Just curious..
Laurel, I think its pretty obvious and I hit on it. #1 Strippers realize that 99% of men aren’t bad men. They deal with men, lots of men, every age, shape and color. Late at night and in many cases drinking or actually drunk. And they are just normal human beings, looking for a good time. Men are not rapists … MENTALLY ILL men are rapists … and focus on the MENTALLY ILL part. And 99% of men are NOT mentally ill.
And strippers realize what men want. They don’t want bitchy. They don’t want entitlement. They don’t want obese pigs who think they can treat men like crap. Men just want an attractive women who is reasonable and treats them well. That’s it. That’s all men want. ATTRACTIVE. NICE. REASONABLE. Pretty much everything else is negotiable. Men are pretty simple. That is what Strippers figure out. Its not lies. And its not bullshit. NOT LIKE WHAT WOMEN PULL. Most strippers learn to HATE other women for being so petty and argumentative. They prefer men, because they treat them with respect.
Give a man a good meal, fuck him every once in awhile, and don’t be an entitled cunt … and you will have thousands of men willing to sign up for that … as long as you’re not an overweight pig. That’s what Strippers learn.
Sorry, I’m not RPG … just relating what my friend told me about what she learned being a stripper. Figure its pretty accurate though. And kinda echoed what RPG said.
This just says it all.
Boom! Mike drop. Exit stage left.
Yes pretty much that, Mega! 🙂
Ok when Huffpo starts breaking the I can get pregnant at 40, its getting real.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/please-ignore-the-celebrity-hype-fertility-really_us_5991f853e4b0caa1687a627e
Not this is all about assisted fertility technology is below 33% for 35. So a I in 3 chance using either frozen eggs or someone (likely younger) eggs.
I wonder what the NATURAL UNASSISTED rate is.
And 13% assisted over 40. Unassisted must be single digits.
Horseman,
It is bound to happen that they re going to hit the end of their fertility and blame everyone. HuffPo may have published this to say, “Gee, we tried to tell you.”
A new post at Spawny’s there is
https://spawnyspace.wordpress.com/2017/08/18/what-do-they-believe/
I saw something yesterday that has stuck with me. It was back to back video of two women refusing to cooperate with the cops over a speeding ticket on YouTube. They were past the wall, so they weren’t going to talk their way out of it, and would not accept the authority of the policemen. Both ended in full police chases. I am not going to link. I think my description stands. We are going to start seeing a lot more of this and it all comes down to vanity.
The Deti
Your comment over at Rollos at 8:15, I am assuming you were refering and complimenting our own Ms Bloom? I agree she is the one red pill girl that doesn’t pontificate and Look At Me.
Awwwwwww, that’s cool if so Deti! Thank you!
It’s not about me. Really, it’s not. I am mostly trying to help other women be better and more aware other halfs! 🙂
Been on the road for some bidness lately and it’s been interesting to note certian things. As mentioned above I was sitting at this table, bullshiting with a mixed group of 20 somethings and one of the girls who had been giving me the shy eyes deal said she was raised right, not like a millennial. I said something like no one liked us genX types when we were kids too, her response was at least the men of your generation were raised to be men. The boys and girls at the table nodded etc in agreement.
While I tend to disagree with her on how genX boys where raised it does play into the younger women actively seeking out older men. I think that behavior is on the rise, though mostly it’s driven by hypergammy and shitty ecconmic circumstances for younger men
The mid-late GenX’ers (born during and late in the sexual revolution) were among the first that were rapidly being raised in single-parent (typically mother) homes and were often teens exposed to the outcomes of third-wave feminism and large cultural changes through the ’70s and ’80s, into the ’90s. It’s interesting that a Millennial’s perspective is that “men were still raised to be men”, but I’d also agree with Ton that we disagree with that perspective. Young men were being raised to be subservient liberals, even then. I would say that many have been part of the backlash after experiences that made them question how they were lied to, hence Red Pill and a strong recent resurgence of the right.
I can see, even in just the past 10 years, that things had rapidly changed for young boys. This is why we have such a huge number of overweight male 20/30-somethings with no job, no education, no healthy hobbies, etc. At least in the case of modern Millennials, there is a chance that that can be corrected for the young. Even in the case of my divorce, I’m maintaining a pretty strong influence over my son with our 50/50 parenting agreement. That wasn’t a common thing 20-30 years ago. Dads would go right into the grinder.
It at least gives me great pleasure to know that the 20-somethings have an interest in older, established, more masculine men, rather than androgynous Millennial boys, especially now that I am divorced.
I remember the women folk of my youth tsk tsk’ing how many young boys were brought up soft, news etc tryimg to say that faggot from MASH was the new masculine and semi counter punches like the book real men don’t eat quiche, etc etc. None of that was cottoned to but we moved out of the hills and down into rural Maryland around 1983 or so and I saw a lot of that there.
Tight Frame A Dad, and don’t try to pick up 20 somethings at night clubs etc unless you have tight Game as well
Day game will get the job done, for a host of reasons but mostly because the same girl who will think you are a creepy perv at a night club will think you’re cool as hell when you chat her up at a coffee shop etc etc.