How many times have we seen it in movies and in real life? A gal, fretting, wondering after a night of casual sex, “Will he call? Is he THE ONE?”
Not to be a spoiler, but the answer is most likely, “No” on both counts.
Young gals today are told, “be sexually liberated,” and that doing so is healthy, empowered, and fun. Except when he doesn’t call, it’s not fun. In the red pill world it’s called, “getting pumped and dumped” and it’s not a good thing.
If one even has to ask, “Will he call?” they are missing the point. Because really, if a gal isn’t certain he will, and that he is (and just as important, he clearly WANTS to be) THE ONE, she should be keeping her pants on.
Ladies, do yourself a favor. Skip the, “Will he call?” nonsense and wait for your forever guy. He’ll be glad you did, and you will save yourself a whole lot of pain and emotional damage, too.
Sure, you may not date as much. You may not have all those stories to tell. Still, it’s better. Because while getting pumped by a hot guy may be fun, getting dumped by one sure isn’t. If you don’t believe me, just ask your broken-hearted gal pal checking her phone in vain.
Let those with ears hear.
And all of you and your comments also help explain all this! So thank you all for sharing! Thank you all as well for remembering we are all at different points in this journey. Some long timers, some brand new. Some older, some younger. Some from the front line, some from further away from the dating war zone. I hope this can be a place to discuss these tough truths wo it ever getting personal or combative. We can all learn something more, even myself! 🙂 I am honered you all are here!
If only the various factions tearing apart the U.S., Canada, the E.U. could be as tolerant as here. Lots of emotion and very very different viewpoints but we keep it civil without degrading too much into name calling and trolling.
And cheers to Bloom (and Spawny too) for not overly moderating. It must be tough to let the fur fly and not employ the ban hammer.
I might not often agree but its sure fun!
ewww … so sorry you’re so sick! boo!
This thread has left a bit of a bad taste. I think that any man that has any dissatisfaction with the sexual marketplace should consider not participating. It is just like trying to buy in a seller’s market in real estate or sell in the midst of a bust. You are not going to get good value.
Horseman, I truly believe in hands off moderation. The community usually sorts things out on its own. I find hovering mods super annoying 🙂 someone would have to really really really be way out of line for me to jump in.
True bear, on an overall scale it’s a loss. I do see happy couples and know people who are doing things right, but far too often I see the opposite. I am so glad I found the red pill and was able to learn another way!
Sue – I am close to someone who went to school in Pensacola. He was having premarital sex before and after the trip. Not sure about when he was living there but I’m sure it happens. He grew up a as a typical kid. A bit deviant, be good. Was active in sports. Turned to God when he got older. Knocked up his girlfriend and married her with a shotgun wedding. It all worked out, because she is a wonderful wife and mother and they are very good to one another.
RPG – AWALT indeed. I was just being silly in response to the alpha / cad comments.
Fuzzie – Very sexless marriage here. Didn’t help that I’d mistakenly married a very broken woman with a history of abuse. Thankfully, it’s over. I’m not blaming the victim, but just want to tell the guys. Never marry such a woman if you expect that you can have a healthy and happy relationship. If you see the signs early on, get out fast. Never ever had a shortage of sex until I married her. It was miserable, and she was unwilling to work on things and I assure you that it ultimately prevented us from having a healthy marriage. Probably also had a very warped perspective on sexuality from her upbringing in a Catholic School system. She was kind, and loving, early on. I let it slide because of “love”. Over time, her real personally and emotions began to show. There was a monster behind that mask.
You can have a strong frame, but it will beat a man down to nothing, being in a loveless / sexless marriage (women cannot separate the two) with someone who can only take but never gives back. By the time I was out of this, I couldn’t believe what this marriage had turned me into, but I’ve mostly recovered over the past 2+ years and I’m probably in the last phase of physical and mental conditioning to become my old self. Better even. Red Pill helped me through the final recovery.
Sorry to ladies who have been through similar situations, but please… Don’t lie to some good man that you can get through it unless you are willing to do some massive psychotherapy to make it work. You aren’t right for marriage. I’m sorry to state something that’s so harsh, but you are only going to burn your family to the ground and hurt those you are close to.
What happens at institutions like Pensacola Christian College (and Oral Roberts U, and Regent U, and Bob Jones U) is that the prohibitions are there, and a few men and women work around the policies/prohibitions. Most probably aren’t having (much) sex. Some are having sex.
A Dad: Good summary. Mine too, except Mrs. deti figured out with the quickness that if she didn’t fix things she was gone, and I had to make a lot of changes too.
The whole “sex drops off the cliff after you get married” thing is basically the women faking sexual interest and sexual attraction before the wedding for the express purpose of luring a beta into marriage. Then once she got what she wants, the sex stops. “I’m a married woman. I don’t have to do THAT anymore. Pervert.” It’s mentally ill, it really is. This is is the kind of thing borderlines do – crazy hot sex before the wedding, no sex after.
The hard thing about it is, she was never really attracted to me. She faked it, for the express purpose of ensnaring me into a marriage so she could have what she wanted – the “respectability” and emoluments of being a wife, with none of the responsibilities or even giving a shit about the man she had just tethered her life to. Sixty years ago, you married a woman like this, and she had to have sex with you whether she liked it or not. There was no such thing as “marital rape”. If you had to support your harridan wife whether you liked it or not, she by God had to “pay the marital debt” whether she liked it or not.
Thedeti – That’s why I also suspect a personality disorder in my ex. The whole thing was a massive lie so that she could have the family that she wanted. It was extremely selfish. I think that ultimately she realized it, in the end, but couldn’t deal with it anymore. It was easier to bail than to work on the problems. Kid loses and has a broken home because mommy is disfunctional. Rationalization hamster spins for years, new excuses every month, but failure to ever acknowledge the real problems. Must be something he did.
I suspect that these things are a major problem in MOST sexless marriages. Bottom line. Most women seen to have some history of premarital sex now, but you’ve really got to work to find one that isn’t completely messed up from it, depending upon the level of severity.
Again. Not trying to be insensitive to women in this situation, but you need to realize something. You CANNOT share a healthy and happy marriage with someone, outside of a few exceptions. These issues really impact a woman’s ability to bond. It happens to me too, but far less so because men and women do not experience sex and love on the same way
That was supposed to be “it happens to men too”. Not “me”.
No sexual disfunction here.
@Dad
“Probably also had a very warped perspective on sexuality from her upbringing in a Catholic School system.”
What does this “warped perspective” consist of? I hear that claimed of Catholic’s, but little by way of explanation. I think from all the stories of sexless marriages I’ve heard about, most of them have been in protestant/non-catholic arrangements. (Though I have come across a couple sexless Catholic marriages)
I’ve instructed my daughters (and sons) that when you marry you have to honor the marriage debt. It doesn’t mean you have to do kinky if you don’t like it, but you do have to provide sexual access to him/her and, in so much as he/she is able, him/her to you.
I am very interested in the non-Catholic’s perspective on this “warped perspective”.
Roman – I’m not going to discuss. I think we’ve had enough religious debate. I respect that other people have unique beliefs and I don’t personally have any issue with Catholicism. I personally grew up in a Catholic family (one side). I don’t believe that the issue was anything other than scare tactics by the people that educated her.
I apologize if my question came off as contentious. I posted it out of sincere curiosity. Having grown up Catholic, and a victim of child sexual abuse, I realized upon reflection that I may not have an objective understanding of what other’s consider a warped perspective.
So my interrogative was merely for is objective epistemic value, not it’s religious implications. Nor was it to segue into a polemic about differing religious value systems concerning man’s sexual nature.
I was only seeking different a perspective.
A Dad,
I didn’t mean to bring that up to be personal. I just wanted to tell Sue where to get off. From what you’re saying, it sounds like your wife was broken, but you got lucky with the lack of other borderline stuff. You have some serious recovery to do.
After yesterday’s thread concluded, I spent some time on Reddit and got the impression that men are reacting to a society that just hates them. Something has to break soon.
Deti,
There have to be a lot of them out there all doing the same thing. This is as common as white on rice. It’s fraud and, yet, men have not figured out a common response to it.
There is no meaningful response from the dating\sex side. As long as 10-20% of males, the cbads, provide occassional fantasy level attention\sex to 80+% of women theh get their tingles satisfied.
Any meaningful response has to come from the resource or protection side.
Forget tingles, you NEED a man, any man, to survive comfortably.
That is not easily going to happen in modern society.
Therefore therre is no meaningful response.
So let the 60-80% of males (the heart of the bell curve, working intelliugent 5, 6, 7s)
Go it alone, live in their bachelor houses, take adventures, play ball and use vr or hookers for release.
Just Leave Them Alone!
It just occurred to me to say this, but how can ten to twenty percent of men satisfy the sexual needs of the entire female population on a part time basis?
It is so obvious a question that I wonder why it has not been already answered. I am going to guess that most women are doing without.
Fuzzie – Lots of recent TRP and MGTOW posts on sex dolls. Some laughing at the concept, others praising them. I personally couldn’t do it, but I get why some guys could. They’ve given up.
I’d just rather try to work to be in the top 20% of my age group physically / financially (for my own interests, rather than to just get laid), but one must wonder how much it’s worth it with all of the entitled Land Whales out there that seem to have no trouble finding someone for the night simply because the option is there. I don’t personally dig the risks involved in ONS, but I’ve not ventured into any dating post-frivorce. If I date seriously, it’s going to be with a woman that’s already taken the red pill. I’ve got not interest in the majority of women though.
A Dad,
I am enjoying all the speculation about sex dolls. I don’t think that I am a potential customer.
As for dating, I would suggest that you could do without the frustration.
Lots of half formed thought are spinning around me and one of them may turn out to be profound. One of them is that women are not really doing all that well with their independence, but they have made themselves too dependent on government to try something else.
Fuzzie, I’ll answer your question for you and you won’t like it.
Women have no idea how a man’s sex drive works. Don’t know and don’t care. Similar things can be said of men too. For example … Fuzzie … how did you feel during your Period last month ? Get any cramps ? Bloating ? PMS ? Obviously a hypothetical question … men don’t have periods so don’t know what its like. Women don’t have the sex drive of a man AND DON”T KNOW WHAT THAT”S LIKE EITHER. And women have no idea the hate they bring to the table and how they demoralize and destroy men when they get married and then refuse to have sex with their husband and threaten him with being arrested for rape for wanting to have sex with his own wife.
Fact is … most women could go for years without having sex and not really even miss it. Most women like the intimacy of sex … more than sex itself. For most women … and remember most women end up with Betas because most Alphas don’t get tied down to a single women. So for most women … sex is about reproduction … for making babies. Its why married women quit having sex with their husband after they squeeze out a couple of kids. No point for her anymore. For men … sex is a NEED they need on a daily or weekly basis … for women … its not. For most women, its optional and they can do without just fine.
And most women REALLY only get turned on by an Alpha male and most women don’t get access to an Alpha male. You could literally say that the vast majority of women never experience sex the way that a man does. That’s the whole thing about the Alpha Widow and all that. A woman finally gets exposed to sex with an Alpha and it imprints on her brain, that’s what its about … that’s how men experience sex … ALL THE TIME. Women would understand a man’s sex drive if every single man they ever had sex with was an Alpha, lol.
So Fuzzie … yes, the majority of women … especially the Fatties are doing without sex … but they don’t miss it like a man would. Completely different things.
Mega,
If they have that little desire, why are we bothering? How did we get to this point as a reproducing species if women aren’t into it?
These are rhetorical questions. I am not being obtuse.
Fuzzie, its not like women don’t like sex; they do. But they don’t experience it like a man and don’t need it like a man. How did we get here ?
In primal days … women needed men for protection, for provisioning, and there was no birth control. So men wanted sex, women did it to keep their man around, had babies and became dependent on making sure the baby survived. Which meant keeping their man around, which meant having sex with him, which meant more babies. The better the bond, the better they worked as a team, and the stronger the man (or he just worked harder) … the better the odds their offspring survived. That’s how it worked. And make no mistake … women want babies. Again, more than a man. Many men want to be a father. Almost all women want to be a mother … they monthly cycle reminds them … if they got distracted by their career, lol. Their biology is telling them … you’re here to have kids and be a mother.
In today’s society women don’t need men for protection. Don’t need men for provisioning. They need men for making babies … other than that … they don’t NEED MEN AT ALL. Most women WANT A MAN … but they don’t NEED A MAN. And while that may sound like a small difference … it isn’t … its huge.
I’ll give you an example. A Dad mentioned sex dolls … I won’t call them sex dolls … I’ll call them Sex Robots … female robots that will fuck when ever you want, any way you want and do it over and over again. More accommodating than any woman. Never says no. Never says … not in the mood. Never bitchy. Never had a bad day. Always sexy. Never gets fat. Never on the rag.
So lets say you are interacting with a real woman and she’s attractive and you get along well. And then she puts up the bitch shield or starts spurting out shit tests. Know what ? Fuck you … I’ll go home and fuck my robot that will let me do anything I want !!! How much power do women have now ???
Its a game changer … because suddenly men don’t NEED WOMEN … sure, a guy would prefer a real woman … they WANT a real woman … but they don’t NEED one anymore. Game changer !!! Just like birth control was for women …
Mega,
That is the conventional wisdom. Still, men have always been at liberty to masturbate, so the sex dolls are only for window dressing. If women only need men for reproductive sex, men are going to see tis all too quickly and walk away. I can see the Red Pill Alphas cursing us in the wake, leaving them with the burden. We can laugh and tell them to lift more and have stronger frame.
Women want alpha cock more then the most of man could understand or more then the most of men ever wanted a woman himself.
Fuzzie, I’ll try to put it to you this way. In my opinion (IMO) things would have already exploded by now except for porn. Originally magazines like Playboy and then more hardcore like Penthouse. Then to VHS tapes and porn rentals. Then it moved to the internet and video on demand. It became high def. Became free. Open a browser window right now, go to google, and enter “skinny blonde cheerleader fucked up the ass” and you’ll have 10,000 websites and free videos to view and download to watch whenever you want. This evolution occurred about the time 2nd and 3rd wave feminism was taking control … 1980 to the present. Maybe if there wasn’t any available porn … 3rd wave feminism would have never occurred. Who knows ? Without porn … I think society would have exploded by now, men would have revolted … but what do I know ?
But I think that sex robots are the real game changer. Because its physical and approximates the real thing. Real sex. With a real person. Not a image in your head … visualized from a printed page or image on a screen. But a real, physical thing encompassing your dick. You don’t have to treat it well. You don’t have to buy it dinner. I’m sorry … HER … you don’t have to even buy HER dinner to get sex. And she never gets FAT … did I mention that ? Doesn’t need to use the bathroom or eat. WHENEVER YOU WANT SEX, SHE”S THERE TO DO ANYTHING YOU WANT.
So you are correct masturbation has always been an option but sex robots will be a huge game changer. If they are ever brought to market. Because I can tell you the government will do whatever it takes to shut it down. Where is male contraceptive ???
They will tax it, regulate it. Will tie it up with regulations for years. Think of the economic impact … first thing is … birthrate would go to near zero. NO KIDS. No need for schools or housing or food or anything else. Why would men work ? Who needs a career ? Men can live cheap … buy a sex robot live in mom’s basement till she dies of old age. Nobody spending because they’re aren’t any kids and nobody working so they can’t even be taxed.
Sex robots would implode society even worse than Birth Control for women only … did. Complete disrupter and the government can’t allow that. So I figure sex robots will go underground. Will be like pot over the last 20 yrs … 1/2 the population has been smoking weed for years and everyone kinda looks the other way. Figure it will be like that. “I’m single, no wife, no girlfriend, not looking …wink, wink … got nice bedroom setup in the basement … ”
Just my 2 ct.
And I still haven’t said how the eclipse went with the GF, lol.
Mega,
I have every confidence that the eclipse went well.
A lot of feminists fought hard to kill porn. They failed and it turned out to truly benefit society. Not that feminists will admit it, but rape went down significantly. This helps your theory.
It may not be so much what men think, say, or do, but how women perceive and react to sex robots. I hope that they go apeshit to the point where it looks ridiculous. We all could use a good laugh.
As for male contraception, there a crying need for that. Women can’t be trusted to use contraception responsibly. The out of wedlock birth rates prove that beyond any argument. Government may be aligned with men’s interests on this one. They do get stuck with a big tab from babymommas.
And I still haven’t said how the eclipse went with the GF
Turn into a werewolf she did?
Time for a music video. Warning, it is violent, just like the movie.
Sex dolls do not alight with my personal beliefs, and I’d be mortified if I discovered that a man from my church used one…
In theory, I wouldn’t be offended if their use became more popular. They are a form of masturbation, which isn’t ever going away…
If some man out there was truly satisfied with a sex doll, so he wouldn’t be so bitter and angry all the time at women, or worse yet, seeing prostitutes (who could give him STDs), then sex dolls are preferable. They don’t involve another person (a prostitute, unwilling woman, ONS) and so, meh. Do what you want, I won’t personally be arguing about it.
Based on what I’ve heard other women say about sex dolls, a lot of them wouldn’t be fighting their use either. They might find a man who uses sex dolls as more unattractive, but he’s probably already considered unattractive anyway, so he (and women) have nothing to lose.
“do not align…” LOL! Typo!
Sue,
I think that you went a long way to proving Mega right. 🙂
Men stopped being curious about what women keep in their nightstands a long time ago.
Pretty interesting point. Stats say that 50-80% of women ADMIT to using sex toys, but we seem to look at it with disgust and shame when men do it. Hadn’t really considered that.
Still don’t think I could do it with a robot or a doll though.
Sue – Would you be mortified if a woman in your church had something similar in her dresser?
ok, Fuzzie since you asked, I’ll bite. Here is how the Eclipse went … LOL, yes I know I’m acting like a woman but its a woman’s blog so … tough.
Didn’t go nearly as I expected. GF and I usually get along really, really well but we had some real stressful moments along the way. Never had that before. So its good we went thru it and survived intact. Even when we are pissed at each other … we still get along pretty well, so that’s cool.
So the actual Eclipse went fine and we had a good time viewing it. So … leadup is this … we had discussed this about 2 months ago and she was REALLY looking forward to it, she’s kind of an astronomy nerd, has her own telescope and everything. Highlight of the year for her, basically. And the place I wanted to go was right on the mid line of totality … we agreed on that. But a few days before we went, we’d been hearing online that there would literally be tens of thousands of other people doing the same thing, traffic was going to be horrible, etc. So 2 days before we left, we changed plans. Or rather I CHANGED PLANS and told her about it. Worked out a different deal and paid $40 to reserve seats. At a place I thought she’d like. And that was much closer. And it worked out … we had a nice time … got to see everything thru our glasses, etc. So it was cool.
The morning before wasn’t nearly so cool. We couldn’t get a hotel room within 100 miles of where we originally wanted to go and the new place was about 50 miles from where we ended up going. So we get up on Mon morning and head to our destination about 10am and I am not making this up … go to get on the highway and don’t even make it off the onramp before running into grid lock. 3 lanes wide. Stop and go traffic 20-40 MPH. Literally for 50 fucking miles. 3 lanes wide. bumper to bumper. 30 MPH. for nearly 2 fucking hours. I was fucking pissed, going into road rage mode and thought we might actually miss eclipse sitting on the fucking highway. Nothing but idiots and assholes too. Cutting people off. Driving in the median. Never seen such a display of morons and assholes … I was fucking pissed and ranting like a lunatic. GF was not amused. She’d never seen me like this and frankly I’m almost never like this, so that’s not a surprise. Pretty much … she saw me at my worst.
We didn’t take our original route to our destination and literally got off the highway and started taking backroads thru neighborhoods to get there. Google maps and GPS talked us thru it. Killed the battery in my phone and nearly the GF’s too. But we made it shortly before it started. But after finally making it … the venue was mellow, exactly what I was expecting … so we both relaxed and enjoyed the show. The eclipse itself was cool !!!
But going back home was more of the same bullshit. We heard that most people bailed shortly after totality and saw cards heading out of the parking lot 10 mins afterwards … so figured the highways were gridlocked again. Not going there ! So got out the bikes and hit the bike trails and went for a ride instead. It was hot and we got all sweaty and covered with sunscreen … nice to be in sweaty clothes for a 4 hr ride home (not). But we had lunch and could see the highway and eventually it cleared out. Waited 2 hrs for traffic to clear. And it was clear … till we got on the onramp to go home and I swear to god … got 100 ft before it ground to an absolute fucking halt. Spent the next 30 mins going 2 miles and I was fucking livid again.
Long story short, we got off the highway, took backroads, changed roads, changed again, got detoured by construction, got lost looking for a restaurant for dinner (GF’s fault), eventually had dinner and got home 6 hrs later. Planes, Trains, and Automobiles was funny … till you have to live that nightmare.
Did have a few RP moments along the way, which would be more appropriate to disclose at a different time. And we did have a good time, but holy shit … I have never been so frustrated in all my life.
We don’t talk about such things in our church! 😉 Well, since we don’t talk about such things, I can’t know for sure that some married couples have…whatever unmentionables, but it would definitely be mortifying for single people.
To answer your question, A Dad, yes, equally horrifying and mortifying for women.
50-80% though. I’m leaning closer to 80% of women, which coincides with the divorce statistics. I think that if they banned the robots, they would have to ban the ladies’ things now, right Fuzzie?
Regarding the eclipse. Pretty anticlimactic.
A Dad … so lets get this straight:
Society:
Birth control for women is good !!!
Birth control for men. What ????
Sex toys for women are ok.
Sex toys for men … sex toys are for PERVERTS !!! Shame them !!!
That about it ?
And, yes, Fuzzie … Sue pretty much proved me right.
Mega,
I am glad that you and your GF survived the world’s worst gridlock. I used to have a couple of teddy bears who lived on my dashboard. Looking at the while stuck in traffic, seeing them so tranquil and calm, was contagious. It sounds goofy, but it works for me.
A Dad,
I think you found another situation where people are likely to underreport.
Sue,
I’ll bet you don’t talk about such things in church. There was a vendor that I used to tease. When he turned in his bill, I got to remind him about two four letter words that could be said in church, “paid” and “cash”.
A Dad,
I never thought about the correlation of women initiating divorce. It may be a coincidence.
I don’t think that I have set foot in a sex shop in my life, but I would bet a doughnut, and I hate giving up sweet treats, that ninety percent of the products are for women. Feminists aren’t going to give that up without a fight.
Mega,
I thing that you just outlined the feminine imperative on those matters. Basically, it is remove or restrict options for men and open options for women while removing shame for exercising those options.
God gave men sex toys
They are called women, and contrary to what they say, they love being a man’s live action fuck doll
Ton – I’d buy you a drink if I could, but I am pretty sure that you have your own still anyway.
I’ve only read about half-way through the comments, so appologies if someone has already made this point.
deti’s point is that the women in church have both the desire and the willingness to be sexually active with the “attractive” guys.
Sue and RPG’s point is, nuh uh – not all churches are that way – and point to what they both know as examples.
deti is correct. Sue and RPG are incorrect. Sue and RPG both agree that the situation is good in both cases BECAUSE THE MEN CONTROL THE WOMEN.
Why do the men need to control the women if deti is wrong???
I think that is the point that Sue and RPG are missing in what deti is saying. The desire and willingness in Sue and RPG’s communities of faith is the same as it is in the churches to which deti refers. The only distinction is ability.
deti has been speaking to the universal condition of women’s hearts in general. If he was not correct, the men in the faith communities which Sue and RPG refer to would not have to control their women.
This is the way of creation. When did Eve decide there were benefits to be had from disobeying God?? When did she display both the desire and the ability to put her desires over God’s desires? After she ate the forbidden fruit? Or before? Think that one through. The so-called fall did not change that part of Eve’s nature.
Made that way. Eve and all of her daughters.
That is what the anti-patriarchy business is all about. Since Eve, women have wanted to do as they please without being held accountable. They don’t want no one saying no. Not even God.
God told Eve that Adam would rule over her. Not rule her; rule over her – she would be part of the kingdom that he would husband, in the truest sense of the word. Without that ruling over, without that husbanding, chaos ensues. All we have to do is look around. Women with the vote have ensured that no man can husband them ever. What fun. Until the world collapses because of the chaos.
Simple summation of a complex subject.
Richard P,
“That is what the anti-patriarchy business is all about. Since Eve, women have wanted to do as they please without being held accountable. They don’t want no one saying no. Not even God.”
I have had a lot of thoughts along the same line for a while. They do seem to have trouble with authority, any authority.
Fuzzie, ok I’ll bite. What RP moments did happen on the eclipse trip ? Well one major one that folks might be interested in. RPG’s female viewers … not sure how many there are … especially ones that are RP and don’t live in a Christian cult full of female unicorns. LOL. So here goes … Viewer Caution is Advised !
So the night before the eclipse we had a busy day and it was hot and I was tired and had driven a long while that day. So when we got to the hotel I decided to take a quick shower before bed. So I did and the GF shortly afterward did the same. So we got in bed and snuggled. She loves that. Snuggling. She snuggles like a child … heart open, no guards in place. I do too … but only with her. Maybe she’s only that way with me too but think she is just that way. Never been burned like a man gets burned. So still kinda naive. Which is a good thing; a great thing actually. Wish everyone could be that way, really. But reality makes men hard. Getting kicked in the nuts for years on end makes you that way. Anyway, we are snuggling and I tell her I’m wiped and just want to go to sleep. But she hangs on. Won’t let go. And I realize … she wants sex but won’t say so. And then remember that she has a “thing” about hotel rooms. And actually as we are snuggling we are talking about the days events and she actually brings it up … hotel rooms …
Anyway, long story short … I’m completely wiped but manage to get it up … and manage to make her come a few times before I shoot my load. A long story short … for men … know your woman … what she likes and what she doesn’t. My girl likes having sex in hotel rooms … her having sex in the same place where other strangers have done it … turns her on. She likes it … so do that. You like certain things, right ? You do her right … she’ll do you right, hopefully. That’s how its supposed to work anyway.
So … next morning about 6 am a storm rolls thru and wakes us up. Thunder, lightening, rain, the whole business. Now, I know my girl likes morning sex. Loves it actually. Never met a girl like that before and frankly its fucking awesome. We both sleep naked and when she wakes up around then, she goes to take a pee and then comes to snuggle on me. She snuggles on me anticipating sex and by the time I am awake enough for sex … she’s horny as hell. Its fucking awesome. But not so last Monday, day of the eclipse. Maybe because it was a strange place, who knows. The storm wakes me up and she’s naked next to me … so I’m anticipating what’s coming next. Yeah … some nice juicy sex. So I roll on top of her and rub up against her, kiss her, like I always do. But she wants to pee. So ok, she leaves and goes to the bathroom. She comes back and I’m still hard … waiting for her. My body knows the drill even though I’m still 1/2 asleep. So I position myself over her and try to enter her and she’s not ready. I rock back and forth a bit, trying to enter, and she balks. She says she’s dry and not ready yet.
We use lube a lot … necessary when you get older. So I brought some and left the bed to go find it in my bag. Not a big deal. I found it, squirted some into my hand and got back on the bed. And this is the part men need to learn. I crawled on top of her, grabbed her thighs, spread her legs apart, spread her pussy lips apart and applied the lube. Then ran little rings around her clit, like she likes. Rubbed her clit just like she likes it. Basically, I treated her body as if I owned it. Her pussy is mine. I own it. Most men get nervous around women and don’t want to offend, don’t want to touch them, to be inappropriate. I treat her body as if I own it. AND SHE LOVES IT.
So I got on top of her and started fucking her and made her come. Then made her come again. And then again. GF loves morning sex and is totally alive. Totally awesome. I then allowed myself to come. It was nice … morning sex with this girl is off the charts. She just likes to fuck in the early morning, never seen anything like it. And here is the deal and the reason I’m telling this story. We are snuggling afterwards and she whispers to me … “I don’t know what it is … but you make me go from not interested … to totally horny in just seconds …”. I know why … because I’m her Alpha. I may not be an Alpha to everyone … but to her I am. I’m her Alpha and that turns her on. I treat her like I own her. Her body is mine and I act that way. And that turns her on !!!
For any man reading this blog here is some news. For women … well, they’ll probably just say … yes, that’s right. Here it is … in the bedroom … take ownership of your woman. Treat her as if you own her body and she is yours. She belongs to you. Don’t be afraid to touch her. Learn what she likes and what she wants and …. do that ! Second … learn how to make her orgasm. A woman’s orgasm releases chemicals into her brain that makes her compliant and loving. No shit. Fuck a girl and make her come and she’ll love you. Guess the same could be said for men but that’s usually pretty obvious. What isn’t obvious is that it works the same way for women. And I guess I should say this … a women usually doesn’t come in 1 or 2 minutes … lots of guys blow their loads quickly but women don’t, it takes awhile. Guys … can you fuck for 5 minutes ? 10 minutes ? Can you fuck for 20 minutes, cum, then get hard again quickly to do the same again? If not … you might want to lose weight, get in shape and most importantly … learn to control your orgasms. Want a good women … who comes back for more at the sex table ??? Learn this. Learn how to fuck, how to have good sex, make it last, to make your girl orgasm. Do that and your girl will want to come back for more and more … just saying.
Sorry Ms Bloom if this is too risque for your blog. Figure there is some good advice in there that will benefit the ladies too.
We’re incorrect about what? That women in some religious communities (AND men, in my community and I believe in the nordic community) have chosen to keep chaste? That’s the only claim I made, and that’s all we were discussing — that we weren’t all sleeping around and then pretending to be all chaste and virginal like a bunch of hypocrites.
I was told that this was impossible, because women in EVERY church community were always going to be sleeping around. Even in RPG’s nordic community, we were assured — deti was positive that these women were all riding that carousel, and if we didn’t believe that, we were blind and deluded.
Deti was wrong, they are not. Maybe a few outliers somewhere, but no, they’re not. Neither are the men in these communities either.
In my church, BOTH male and female church members are “controlled,” as you put it. It’s not like good church members look the other way when their sons are sneaking out to have sex with girls, and only their daughters are constantly watched and chaperoned, as if only the girls need to be “controlled.”
I’d speculate that one of the main reasons these Christian communities successfully have many chaste members is because it’s not a one-sided thing, only applying to women. If all the male members could do as they pleased, sexually, while all the women had to be kept in strict control at all times, many of us would leave in disgust. If we wanted that kind of lifestyle, we’d all join the Taliban. LOL. That’s not how the Bible’s teachings are worded, only singling out women.
And as far as you griping about women getting the vote, whatever. Yawn. It’s never going to happen. Sorry not sorry.
I need to add: “And as far as you griping about women getting the vote, whatever. Yawn. It’s never going to happen. Sorry not sorry” (By this I mean, some red pill guys dearly want our right to vote taken away. Not going to happen! La la la la, keep griping all you want but we’re still going to get to vote. And guess what? A lot of us voted for Trump this time. How terrible, right?)
Mega,
I can just imagine Sue reading that and coming unglued. *wink*
From the two stories, it sounds like your situation is secure enough that the two of you can make allowances of less that ideal circumstances to not ruin your day. I am happy for you! I have to pay the highest compliment that single man can offer a woman who is taken, “Does she have any friends like her?”
fuzzie, I didn’t read it! TL;DR! LOL! I sure won’t read it now! 😀
Thanks Fuzzie, but, no, my GF doesn’t have any single friends that I know of. Think Sue is just getting caught up on what Deti wrote. And she’s not a happy camper.
Don’t know if you followed the hint I dropped a couple weeks back about me letting my guard down … but I dropped the “L” word. Was followed immediately by “I Love you too …” so figured it was an ok move. But didn’t know for sure … its usually not a good thing for the guy to drop it first.
Sue,
I’ll give you the short version. She likes him. He likes her. Together, they are very affectionate. That will save you some glue. 🙂
Mega,
They never have any friends! Drat! And double drat!
It is a shame that we have to live with all these crazy restrictions.
@ Mega that is true re sex drive and women. I think women can turn the drive off in a way men can’t. Not that women can’t want or enjoy sex, but they can also be perfectly happy wo it. That can be dangerous in a relationship when a woman assumes men are the same, and she lets her drive wane or thinks he’s ok wo, too. It may take conscious effort on a gal’s part to keep her motor running, so to speak, and not to get in a rut. Also the approach you describe w the gf is a good one, just get the party started and often she’ll come around even if she wasn’t so “in the mood” in the first place. Married women should be getting it on, and on the regular w their guy, not expecting some perfect setting, perfect lead up, perfect romance situation each and every time.
LOL it’s 7am and I have a buiness meeting in 2.5 hours so of course I have a drink at hand
Hey. At least you take it seriously. I’m only running on coffee at the moment.
Personal branding. I ain’t doing shit in that meeting but being Ton but my boys going in with me need to prime. They are doing the critical work. The Ton being Ton keeps them ready
No different then when I would act like incoming rounds didn’t exist down range
If anyone is still hanging around this explosive post I’ll share a couple of thoughts it gave me:
It’s now common knowledge that men tend to want a virgin and women tend to want a man who appears to be an accomplished lover. Thinking about the mechanics of evolution, this feels to me to be a lot like women’s Sh*t Tests in that Social Proof is (and Sh*t Tests are) actually indications of whether or not a man is impotent. I assume that nature cares about little else. If other women want the man and if he can continue the relationship and have sex in the face of bad behavior from the woman, then that’s the guy Darwin wanted; she may be being obnoxious but he’s bulletproof and can make babies no matter what. I’m not convinced that Darwinian natural selection is the only force at play in evolution but I accept that it is a major one.
One aspect of the Double Standard is that women’s reaction to seeing a man with another woman tends to be that they want to compete. This is kind of a no brainer by now but whether it’s right or wrong the reaction of the sexes is different. Men more often just seek another mate, their goal is to find a virgin or the next best thing. They’d prefer that she be physically attractive, exciting in bed and an agreeable companion but they still would prefer something virgin-ish. Any woman who expects a man to react like a woman (very common these days in many situations) is likely to be mistaken. Men are learning not to expect a woman to think like a man, that’s the whole lesson in hypergamy.
None of these things are absolutes but they may happen often enough for them to get hard wired into behavior.
Ton is exactly correct with:
“Women want alpha cock more then the most of man could understand or more then the most of men ever wanted a woman himself.”
A woman in the throes of attraction with a man she is very sexually attracted to is a sight to behold. She will want sex with him so bad she can taste it. She will do anything, ANYTHING, to have sex with him.
This idea that women don’t want sex and don’t really like it all that much is correct, only if they aren’t around alpha cock they are very sexually attracted to. If you’re a woman’s alpha, you won’t be able to satisfy her need for your cock. She’ll want you 24/7. She’ll be absolutely ravenously insatiable.
Now, ladies: If you want to understand how it feels to have the male sex drive, take what I said above about how you women are in the presence of alpha dick, and imagine feeling that way ALL THE TIME, EVERY WAKING MOMENT OF YOUR LIFE.
That’s the male sex drive.
Sue, Bloom:
If it is in fact correct that the women in your churches and the Nordics are not having premarital sex, it is only because the women’s sexual behaviors are under tight control from the adults in their lives. In their depraved hearts, they want to have sex with the most attractive men around them, and they WOULD BE having sex but for said tight control.
Everyone, male and female, has a sex drive and some part of them wishes they could sleep around without consequences. This is not exactly news.
These church people are held in tight control by their beliefs, their desire to be obedient, and because of the watchful eye of the people at church whose respect they want to keep. Or, they don’t. Some fall away. But the dedicated church members will keep it reigned in.
You seem to think that it’s ONLY the other church members (and church elders, parents) that keep these young women (AND men) from having premarital sex. It’s more than that. They have consciences and they’d remember that God sees what they do. Their consciences couldn’t allow them to continue to go to church and act like they were in obedience when they really weren’t.
There ARE hypocrites at every church, but the ones who are sincere in loving God, they aren’t going to put on this phony act. There’s no point because God would know what they do, even if they managed to fool everyone in the congregation.
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