Much has been written in the manosphere of the feminine nature of Eastern European women, so I thought I would share a recent run in with the Russian-born guy.
Marco and Sergio are in their mid to late 40s, and we became acquaintances when I replied to an ad for a refurbished washer dryer set. After an email and a phone call I felt the situation was on the up and up and I set up a time to have the units delivered and installed. (And my old set hauled away, including the washer stuck on extra small load for over two years! Ug. Bye bye!)
Marco is the mastermind of the pair, not good looking, not fit, but very very smart. I get the sense no matter what one needed, Marco is “the guy” who could make the connection. To be “in” with Marco clearly opens doors and makes life easier. In addition to wheeling and dealing in appliances of all sorts, this Serbian is also a real estate investor who specializes in flipping properties in multiple states.
Marco liked Dancer and I so much he returned the following day with his pretty and demure Ukrainian wife, and their three young sons. He’s obviously proud and fond of his wife, and I noticed no attitude or drama from her toward Dancer and I. She treated us as esteemed sisters, not rivals (which we are not but some women see all women as such, especially non married women, so her attitude was refreshing.)
Sergio is the looker and smooth talker of the two. From Uzbekistan initially, but proudly American now. He reminds me of Zeus and his sons, confident, flirty, and very self assured. He’s good looking and he knows it. He’s the sales guy of the two.
Sergio is married as well. Widowed once, with four children, and now a second wife who has two of her own. He proudly showed us photos of his strikingly beautiful wife and his middle daughter, proudly bragging how people confuse them as sisters (and they do look very alike!) plus photos of the whole clan. I joked soon the tribe will be much larger as grand babies arrive, (two so far) and I swear he preened!
Now don’t get me wrong, none of it was one bit inappropriate, but just as men speak of the feminine ease of Russian and Eastern European women, the men are likewise at ease with their masculinity. Marco and Sergio took the stage w Dancer and I but never did we feel oppressed or suppressed, rather it was a natural, playful, innocent, and easy banter.
I have never been completely at ease with the manosphere definition of Alphas and betas but I would say these two men are both Alpha but perhaps of different types. Marco is a financial/connection Alpha, while Sergio is more of a natural sort.
I have a feeling we will see them all again, and I look forward to observing them more.
The untamed masculine male, unapologetic, unencumbeted, at ease with his maleness. That’s what I saw with at least these two. I wonder if their women are so feminine in natural reaction to the masculine. Hard to say. But interesting to ponder.
What do you think? Please share in the comments.
Notes From a Red Pill Girl 
What I keep hearing is that women from Eastern Europe end up divorced on the slightest pretext because there are so many surplus women there. It runs in the mid eighties of men for every one hundred women and mortality for men is shockingly high. Alcohol is a problem.
Since these guys are over here, it sounds like they marry for life and the above does not apply.
Please be careful with applying the term “alpha”. The more that I see, the worse it looks.
that’s really cool. it would be interesting to know how they view our marriages in the US.
and that’s awesome finally getting a washer that will run a full load! i think my dryer might need to be replaced as it takes forever for things to dry. but they eventually do get dry … and i can, and do, hang a lot up to dry … sooo … not really an imminent thing that needs to be done š
@ Ame. Lived w it for a long time but now that it’s fixed… you might check craigslist in your area, I see free or next to nothing dryers all the time in good working condition!
I looked specifically for Easteren European women on online dating services. My Mom thought I was nuts. But it was for the above mentioned reason
@ farm boy, did you ever date any women from those services?
I know a few men who have married Russian women from such services and it did not go well, but I am sure sometimes it does. In theeir cases, both women were very materialistic and would harp on their guys that it was never enough, they needed more designer clothes, more status symbols, a bigger house, a better car…
@RedPillGirl: I’ve dated quite a few Eastern European women (there are a lot of Russians, Ukranians, Bulgarians, Polish, etc. here in Chicago) … and one thing I realized very quickly is that that sort of “traditional femininity” that many of them possess requires a traditionally masculine male to keep things in sync. You have to be able to bring the hammer down when needed, or even walk away. In short, you have to act like a man.
A lot of Blue Pill men in our feminized Western society cannot do that or don’t know how to behave in that way, and those relationships as you mentioned turn into disasters where the women turn bitchy.
FYI. I don’t think an Uzbeck or a Serbian would appreciate being referred to as Russian.
I worked with a Russian guy at my previous employer. Nice guy, working 100 hrs a week (at $12-13/hr base pay) on average to keep his fat ugly wife happy; bought her a Mercedes, live a neighborhood of mostly white collar professionals.
Very tamed and VERY encumbered.
Interesting copper fox! That makes sense and the men who married these foreign brides are as you describe, the average “sensitive and understanding” American males. They were likely doing more and more to “make her haaaapy” and maybe should have been saying “No!” instead. Like many American marriages in general now that I think of it. AWALT, even feminine ones!
@ headhunter agreed, I even asked them this but they insisted they were “Russians” and referred to themselves this way. Maybe they do so in a general sense? As they also referred to themselves by actual country of origin as well, such as Serbian Russian, or Russian from Uzbekistan, or Ukranian Russian. But I do know others, say Ukranian, who get upset at being referred to as Russian bc of the longstanding conflicts between their countries, which is why I asked them bc I didn’t want to offend. Thanks for adding that!
Dancer knows a few Russian phrases, which delighted them. And she knows one slang insult in Russian, which made them howl with delight, then clap her on the back, and I am pretty sure was why they decided we “deserved better” and gave us an upgraded washer “same price!” Lol.
We ended up doing partial trade for some of my farm product as well, so I got the front loader set for $150 in the end! Unbelievable!
And of course while they were here they looked around and decided I really need a “beautiful bigger fridge” (I currently have a very small run down base model one) and so Marco whips out his phone and shows me what he thinks would be good, and it was very nice. I told him I will save my money and be back in touch! š he’s also now looking for a better car for Dancer, as hers is really on its last leg.
Like I said, I think they will be handy to know!
Jeez woman;
“We ended up doing partial trade for some of my farm product as well, so I got the front loader set for $150 in the end! Unbelievable!”
You do realize that is why God invented streams, rocks and sticks, right? Keep y’all females busy and out of trouble during part of the day….
Ame – You might want to clean out the dryer exhaust. Those things need a little TLC every few years or they clog up and the dryer won’t work well. Sometimes critters also get into them if they aren’t well covered outside.
Regarding the topic. There are a lot of nice Polish women around here. I wouldn’t mind dating one. They seem to be a lot more well-adjusted than most of the American women that I know. And I don’t mean to be crude, but many Polish women seem to be fit yet bustier than many other women. Just one man’s perspective on the matter. š
Marcos wife is pretty, blonde, and fit but in a natural way. Cute. Wholesome. Sergio’s wife is uch more made up, sultry, also blond but in a more “slick” way. I have noticed in general Eastern European women (at least ones who aren’t going the headscarf and dowdy clothing look) are usually quite up to snuff on hair, nails, fashion, etc. and it wouldn’t surprise me if some are surgically enhanced. It costs quite a bit in both $$$ and time to maintain all that, but they do look nice. Part of the femininity is that they look like women and enjoy looking like women! No androgeny there!
I have long thought that there has been something rotten at the heart of American culture. America is the epicentre of all that is wrong in the world and this disease has spread to other English speaking countries. Non-English speaking countries are at the moment largely immune because of the language barrier. Sergio and Marco while being able to speak English clearly are still thinking from an Eastern Europe mindset.
What is this rot,this disease you ask? It is caused by living in a country where generations have been taught to be extremely greedy,wildly materialistic and be openly contemptuous of those who can’t keep up for whatever reason. These things cause hatred of others and also a boiling self hatred.
America is the epicentre of all that is wrong in the world
Many issues the US has,
But the above assertion rather silly it is
oookay,
“I have noticed in general Eastern European women (at least ones who arenāt going the headscarf and dowdy clothing look) are usually quite up to snuff on hair, nails, fashion”
Speaking from no small experience, EE women do take much better care of how they present themselves than the women I see here in the US, it is a matter of pride to look attractive to her SO (if she has landed one of course). One small thing though, that idea of eastern Europe covers a LOT more territory than just Ukraine and Russia; there are stunning beauties in Romania, Moldova, Belarus, Poland, Latvia, Estonia, Lithuania (men will think they have died and gone to heaven). Already got mine, good luck gents finding yours!
@Yoda
Blind you are
See no fault in your country you cannot.
@Yoda
Too long exiled on Degoba you have been
Return to America you must
Open your eyes it will!
Yoda,
Mrs. Yoda cousins she have?
Speak Yodish quite well she does.
According to Mark Davis, who runs a romance tour company, the story on most of the women his agency calls is that the women got married and the men frivorced them. I guess the penalties for men there are minimal. The best the women can look forward to for the rest of their lives would be short, shallow affairs. Under those circumstances a steady guy from halfway around the world starts to look pretty good.
I have heard that women from Moscow can be materialistic in the extreme. That city has a higher cost of living than Paris. The advice to men is to go to moderate sized cities. Lower cost of living, reasonable number of women, better all the way around.
Eastern European women won’t step out of the house unless they are all dolled up. It is a point of pride.
@Yoda
Blind you are
See no fault in your country you cannot.
Stated that issues “many issues the US did have” I did.
Clearly fault with the US I do see.
Perhaps the blind one you would be
@ fuzzie in these guys cases the women were from remote villages, poverty stricken areas. I was surprised that instead of gratitude for the many improvements in life there was a seemingly insatiable desire for more material goods. But I have seen that in Americzns raised in poverty too, they either become super frugal or super materialistic. Bottom line I would not put any woman, regardless if where she’s from, on a nawalt pedestal. Women are women. The world over.
RPG,
That is the dilemna that all men face. A man is not likely to find a NAWALT, here, there, or anywhere.
@ fuzzie and it has always been. Copper fox suggests as close to a solution as there has ever been. š
RPG,
While I am a long way from this, Sunshine Mary asked the question on her blog, “Should a man have to game his own wife?” Unfortunate;y, it is necessary.
The pro0bloem for most men is getting an introduction to a motivated women.
I read something on RoK today that is pertinent. While it was about Harvey Weinstein, in the conclusion, the author pointed out that he ruined a lot of women that would have made good girlfriends and wives.
That Stephanie ^^ is not this Stephanie.
Just for clarification lol….
I think she is from overseas but she speaks perfect Yodish.
My cute Polish Grandma had something major against Russian men lol…
One time I tried to joke with her that we probably had Russian in us from how much Russia and Poland fought in wars. She did NOT think it was funny at all my poor Grandma! I have a dark sense of humor I guess, but she just kind of glared at me.
One of my friends married a Russian man (born and raised in Russia) and he’s drop dead gorgoues with very dark hair – almost black- and light blue eyes and just really good facial features. BUT he can’t hold down a job here š¦ He’s strange in that he has all these big plans but doesn’t seem to be able to follow through on them, so it’s extremely stressful being married to him for her.
She’s called me before for advice even though she’s older than me by a few years, in how to support him mentally when he’s just not bringing in enough money for the family (she’s having to work full time and borrow money from her parents).
It’s hard. I don’t know if has **everything** to do with him coming from that country but I do kind of wonder? ???
Also… he’s hands down alpha. My husband and him got along great. He has charisma and is on his 3rd big business venture that seems to sort of be working I think š¦
Hopefully it all works out.
THIS is what my little old grandma looked like!
I swear, everytime I’m doing something wrong, I see her doing this in Heaven LOL
I just keep playing it over and over and over. In my head!!!
My poor Polack Grandma….
LOL
This is relevant š
she is from overseas but she speaks perfect Yodish
Yodish the universal language it is
A new post at Spawny’s there is
https://spawnyspace.wordpress.com/2017/10/20/fluffy-comfort/
Stephanie,
You might think about reading James Michener’s Poland. A lot of it may stem from who had the better cavalry.
Maybe not.
Yoda,
The Bear was impressed by her linguistic effort. Nobody speaks Fuzzish, not even me.
you can change your screen name to Dragonfly Stephanie š
I don’t think there will be a problem as long as new Stephanie writes in Yodish.
my first husband, though American, spent most of his growing-up years in another country and absorbed some of their culture … which influenced his personality in various ways. none of that caused conflict in our marriage, but it was all stuff to adjust to. probably the most challenging was on his side as he felt gypped for not getting to grow up in the states rather than seeing the benefits to having lived in another culture.
– – –
years ago i had some neighbors from the middle east who are still friends today. the ladies dress lavishly all the time – very high end fashion, always heels, make-up and hair always exquisite (even though over-done for my preference as the makeup is layer upon layer though tastefully so … and the hair probably wouldn’t move in a wind storm š ). they are also amazing cooks. the men are masculine and the women are feminine.
Uzbeks and Ukrainians are not Russian.
The Russians were not so good to the countries occupied after the war. I know a man from Poland, early 50s, was involved in helping gain Poland’s independence as a young man. Of course he wasnt born Until after the occupation was well underway but he’s NOT a fan of communism or socialism at all. I talked also to a man from Romania who escaped (twice) during the 80s prior to the fall of the Soviet Union and he had a lot of interesting things to say about the last election. Huge Trump fan! It’s always interesting to me to speak to such folk and hear about their views and experiences.
Noted bv, but that’s how they referred to themselves so that’s how I refer to them. I honestly asked point blank and they said, “No we are Russian. Well were Russian, we’re Americans now!” I will ask them to clarify, perhaps they are descendants of Russian soldiers who lived in those areas post war? I am not sure…
RPG,
I think they are referring to their ancestry. Starting with Catherine the Great, the ethnic pot was stirred throughout the Russian Empire to mix things up, preventing local uprisings. While they sing the national anthem of Ukraine in English, they disclose their ancestry. I think they may be close neighbors, but from all parts of the former Empire by ancestry.
Well, technically, Uzbekisatians are Turks. And Serbs are Souther Slavs (Russians are Eastern Slavs) – although a traditional ally of Russia, Serbs are culturally quite different.
I am Russian living in the UK. If you have any questions, I’d be glad to answer.
@Fuzzie
> What I keep hearing is that women from Eastern Europe end up divorced on the slightest pretext because there are so many surplus women there.
Not true. Although given that alimonies/child maintenance is hard to enforce in Russia ( the state is weak – they were able to start adequately collect taxes only a decade ago before that working cash-in-hand was pandemic); and social support is non-existent ( the state is poor), divorce/abandonment might be devastating for a woman.
It runs in the mid eighties of men for every one hundred women and mortality for men is shockingly high.
> Alcohol is a problem.
It was, back in 1970-1990s – much like current opioid epidemy in the States, same reason (widespread feeling of disempowerment and disenfranchising among men).
> Please be careful with applying the term āalphaā. The more that I see, the worse it looks.
A lot of Russian men are betas: from steady Eddy to henpecked husbands. We’ve got the full spectre. The difference is, Russian women OPENLY SUPPORT masculinity in their men, and vice versa. A rambling about “toxic masculinity” would be nonsense in Russia – who wouldn’t want a good protector?
Here in the UK, my little daughter is in ballet school (lead by Russian ballerina), and my stepson is in MMA club doing boxing (half of the attendees are Slavs: Polish, Russian, Ukrainians and Bulgarians; the rest are Irish, Jamaicans, Pakistani and English working class). My wife specifically asked me to get him train with me, so he “wouldn’t be raised a sissy, like British boys are”.
@copperfox
> one thing I realized very quickly is that that sort of ātraditional femininityā that many of them possess requires a traditionally masculine male to keep things in sync
THIS. A while back, I left a comment in a thread with the US men discussing dating Russian women. Hopefully, RPG will excuse me for this massive self-citation:
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Wow, so much bitterness in comments!
Guys, if you are after a 50/50 partner in a skirt, Russian gals are not for you.
When I used to date them (me being Russian myself) before settling with my Russian wife here in the UK, the most common brief description of an ideal mate from them was “a stonewall”. They want “real men”, you know, those guys back from American 50s, before New Man came along with his feelz and “respect for women” (which just means he dumps all the responsibility on her fragile shoulders, doesn’t bother with holding the doors, being the breadwinner or running the romantic department).
Russian women expect from their men to protect them (Russia is harsh) and provide for them (and that doesn’t mean you have to shower her with gifts! It’s not about bringing a lot, it’s about you taking care of this, not her). And not in complacent Beta-manner of “what else do you want, dear?”, as this shows weakness and breeds anxiety in their heads: “if he can’t maintain his borders with me, how can he protect me from other, more assertive men?”. So be a good old-school man, don’t be a softie, – but don’t push them too much either, as those women have dignity. And the game is still on after marriage! No lazy weekends playing video games while slowly turning into a slob. Russian women have standards and WILL dump you if you no longer meet them.
One more about money and employment – they CAN do on their own, they just no longer want to do it, after 70 years of enforced gender equality in USSR. When the family needs it, she’ll take a job, and might happen to be good at it. Your standing in her eyes will take a hit though – expect the nagging.
What can you get in return? Oh, a happy Russian woman is a bliss. She’ll be tender and responsive. She’ll take a good care for you – and the kids, if they’re to be. Nice cooked dinners. Clean house. Perfect looks that will make all your male friends to envy you. She wouldn’t question whos making the big decisions in the household (but it’s wise to let her handle smaller ones – she’s good at it). Finally, she’ll have no inhibitions installed by religious upbringing, so your sĆØx life will be superb.
Again, if you’re not comfortable with “maintaining outdated gender stereotypes” – they’re not for you. Go after lib chick from a coastal city, or some Brit, or a Scandinavian girl instead. Alternatively, if you prefer your partner to be low-maintenance coupled with submissiveness and no-matter-what-kind-of-couch-potato-you-become-loyalty – look further East.
And keep in mind, that Russia is a vast country, and people there have varied backgrounds. If you met a Russian version of a trailer park girl – don’t be surprised by her being shallow and materialistic. That type can easily try to capitalise on their looks and treat you like a resource – especially if you are of a garden variety Nice Guy type. Upper-middle-class girl from St Petersburg will be completely different.
Oh, and beware of older (30+ for a woman is “old” in Russia) single mothers on the lookout for foreign husbands. Chances are they’re in “tiger mom” mode, and will use you as the means to get out of the country and establish herself and her kids in a new land, only to ruthlessly dump you later.
Finally, you can only get that far with stereotypes. They’re different persons, so whatever poem I posted above might be completely irrelevant for that specific Russian belle you just met.
@RPG
> I even asked them this but they insisted they were āRussiansā and referred to themselves this way.
Sometimes non-ethnic Russians from small nations call themselves Russians while overseas. They know the language, and it allows them to stick to a broader community. I.e. Baltic, Armenian, Azerbaijanian, Turkmen people, who speak Russian often call themselves “Russian” while in the UK to save some time on explaining what Turkmenistan or Estonia is, and how they end up talking in Russian. So, in a way, it’s “ex-Soviets”/”pro-Russian” (the latter in case of Serbian people).
OMG Bloom, you caught a Russian on here! LOL
Too cute!
Sergy, don’t take the assumptive comments to heart. I’ve literally only known ONE Russian man IRL, that’s not very good for anecdotal evidence.
We’re mostly all just guessing here. Your descriptions sound like they add up to the sweet video.
@Stephanie
> Sergy, donāt take the assumptive comments to heart.
Do not worry; it’s almost impossible to offend a Russian. In Russia, if you are offended, it’s your problem. “Just call him an asshole and cut the communications”.
There are some 140 mil Russians in the World (120mil out of 145mil in Russia itself, plus 20mil living overseas), so the variety is vast.
I’d put Russian men above modern young European males (they are too androgynous even to be called men), but well below older (60+) Europeans and American men from deep red states. Sadly, Soviet past and the massive toll of two World Wars (with an intermedio of Civil War and Red Terror) severely diminished the quality of my compatriots. Well, we have our women still.
Lol Syephanie! It doesn’t surprise me, the stats show this blog is visited by people from all over the world! Pretty much anywhere that has Internet access. I like that we are international (and even intergalactic!) š
Sergy very interesting! Thanks so much for adding that perspective!
@fuzzie remember the guy running that service is doing marketing and sales… He’s looking for kindhearted men, but as Servy points out that type may struggle w Russian women. Frame is impr. In any relationship. Men who don’t want to have iron solid frame constantly might be best matched w an Asian foreign bride than an Eastern European one.
Intergalactic? That is right. Yoda lives in a galaxy far, far away.
RPG,
It is hard to get Red Pill Theorist to define ‘frame’. As near as I can tell, it is putting up a false front, leading to player burnout. It is well that I have held off on the Eastern European thing.
Sergey,
Thanks for the clarification.
@fuzzie, some define frame that way but I prefer Rollo’s definition. In every interaction (not only romantic) someone has the frame. It’s either you or them. So for example when managing employees, if I don’t hold the frame they start to try to manage me or run the show. So I have to hold frame. W my kids is another obvious example. Wives running the show, I think we’d all agree, doesn’t work well. Leads to shit tests and all sorts of problems. Frame is leadership, basically. Some people fight others having frame while others recognize it’s good to recognize who is the appropriate leader in any given relationship.
If I were a guy I’d look for a gal who gets this. But I’d still have to maintain frame to keep it. Think of it like a vacuum, if someone “loses” frame, the other party will naturally have to take it, bc someone has to. But people managing up (like bv posted in his monkey article) is not good and doesn’t work. It’s just a dynamic to be aware of consciously and being so helps maintain it.
RPG,
I think you proved that it can’t be defined. It also sounds like a false front. But, you have given me some insight on why women find narcissists initially attractive.
As for BV, I remember his statement. I have worked for employers who have grievously shirked responsibility. It is best for those employees to move on.
strong women who are defined well by even stronger men. love it.
Frame is easily defined.
In any disagreement or conflict their are three things that must be agreed to come to a conclusion.
1. The “Facts”. What happened? Whose version of of events is believed. This clarifies the ” problem” bring discussed. In court its the evidence, in negotiation its the statements of agreed facts.
E.g. We have $n in the bank.
2. The “Problem” What needs to be solved, what exactly are we discussing. Obstification: saying the issue is x while getting you to solve Y.
In negotiation it is often clarified in the ” terms of reference”
E.g. if you loved me you would let me buy x
We can’t afford x (because we have $n in the bank)
Is this about showing love or being financially secure?
3. The “Possible Solutions”. What are All the ways this can be solved not just the desired ways. E.g. zero sum deathmatch vs win win creativity vs mutual compromise.
E.g. Let me buy this or I wont love you any more.
Fine but you get a job to cover the rent we wont have.
Prick
Bitch
Frame is which version of those three questions you act from.
Do you agree how much money you have?
Is it about love or money?
Are you going to just buy it or is the one going to get a job?
Frame is easy. Layout the facts, define the problem, deploy the solution.
At All Times.
Concious or asleep or in a coma
At home, while at work, during deployment.
If you lose frame Ever, for a nanosecond, well you’re just not up to the job, not the man she thought you were.
Or just say fuck it
Get your own house so its always your frame, even when its not.
(The dog only cares about if you have food.)
And Frame is for The Rest Of Your Life
Every second
Of every hour
Of every day
For years and years and years.
No pressure.
You get used to it.
Til you lose frame
Then you’re fucked.
Just sayin.
Unrelated fun fact.
A year is
31,536,000 seconds.
Thirty one million plus moments.
Just like this one.
To hold frame.
Hey…just a fun fact. Unrelated.
P.s. a thirty year marriage is 946,080,000 seconds
So I have held frame for just shy of a BILLION moments
Yeah right.
Just sayin.
Ame.
Course you love it…no pressure, no risk of mistakes, no reprocussions
. Just sayin šššš
P.s. hold frame too long and you cannot help but turn into an arrogant asshole who is always right and in control. Its the evolution.
Horseman,
You lost me. It sounds as if you are attempting to reason with someone who won’t accept reason. We all know that does not end well. I can say that all the women that wanted to engage in a relationship with me, wanted me to move into their place. I passed. It was a good decision.
Someone asked what frame was.
Frame is controlling those three things to make the right decisions to be the man and lead the relationship at all times.
Just sayin how easy it is for the fine female readership.
Oh did I say holding frame also makes one an opionated asshole like moi?
Horseman,
I get the feeling that we are getting into circular reasoning. Anyway, it is of little matter. It wasn’t enough to save Morpheus when he lost his job and his wife listened to her peer group, not him. I hope that he finds a better one and sends her a postcard when he takes his next vacation.
ahhh, Horseman! i’m just grateful my halos are still visible! š š š
lol! nothin like perspective … or … perhaps … micromanaging time?! š š
There is something else. We got into this mess by making extra effort to accommodate women. The proposed solution always seems to involve more effort and more accommodation from men. We are hitting the Law of Diminishing Returns on this one. As Terrence Popp says, “I think that I will go watch some Space Ghost.”
I get it fuzzy, I can see why it would just seem easier to pass. And it is!
Just my one month w two female roommates has had me understanding more the dilemmas men face and maybe how it must feel to think, “not worth the trouble!”
RPG,
Seeing what Roomie put you through, imagine how much worse it would be for a guy that she would see as being in debt to her. Nearly all guys have been tested beyond the limit of their patience. It is good that your lurkers are aware of this.
iām just grateful my halos are still visible! š š š
Halos unimportant they are.
Your husband likes your boobs he does
RPG,
It might be a good topic for a post to address the female lurkers and tell them to lighten up on the guys that care. As it stands, they have done a great job running them off the reservation. What are left are alpha cads and those thast self describe as ZFGs, Zero Fux Given.
bwahahahahaha!!! yes, Yoda, he most certainly does!!! š š š
Yoda,
There is that and she pours milk in his glass at the table.
yes, Fuzzie … that, too, is very important to him. at the table or where ever he is when he wants some.
and i’ll have to say … that is ‘love’ for me b/c i HATE milk and would not keep the kind he drinks in the house if it weren’t for him! i hate the smell of it … i hate the taste of it … i hate if it spills on me! but i buy it and pour it for him … and he lubs it š š š
i have to tell y’all, i’m SO grateful! two deer ran out in front of my Husband while driving after dark. he’s okay, and the vehicle he’s in is pretty much okay. he wasn’t even on a country road. he said the deer took off but he couldn’t tell how injured they were. aaak. just so thankful he’s okay. he must not have been going too fast … the speed limit on that road is around 50, so i’m guessing he wasn’t going that fast when he hit them or they’d have been dead for sure? idk. just so thankful he’s okay.
Ame,
I think we all have some little thing. For Yoda, I’ll bet Mrs. Yoda puts something special on his sandwich.
I think that deer are made out of rubber. Good to hear that the damage was minimal.
Russia is a series of political lines on a map. Russian is a nation, tribe and people
Russia sent Russians to settle all over their empire, as most conqouers do, so they maybe be both Russian ethnically yet lived in one of the Stans, or Serbia etc etc. Or like a friend of mine, say Russian because it is the easy way to explain where he is from, then you learn the fuller picture as he gets to know you
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