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Its so easy in a long term relationship or a marriage to slip into a place where one takes it for granted.
Doing so is a big mistake though. Too often couples who do so slip into complacency, and then one or the other disengages.
Maintenance is always easier than digging out.
Think of it like a garden. One gardener spends 10-20 minutes a day wedding, watering, looking for problems, tackling them when they are small. The little daily effort adds up, keeping everything looking great with seemingly little effort.
Compare that to the person who only takes action when things have gotten out of hand. The grass is yellow. The weeds are waist high. The bushes and trees have overgrown into a jumbled mess. This garden will take hours and hours of work to reclaim. And because some of the neglect has led to problems not easily reversed (lack of regular pruning allowed some things to grow the wrong way or too big, and even with pruning they will never be quite right, or plants have died from lack of water.) It’s possible to recover such a garden, but it will probably never be as good as it could have been, or look as tidy as the one maintained all along.
Most of the time good things don’t “just happen.” Good things are often born of lots of little good decisions and actions leading to success.
Beware neglecting your relationship until the weeds are knee deep. Instead, spend a little time every day doing positive things that will help it grow and flourish.
The greener grass is the grass that gets watered.
What do you think? Do you have tips for maintaining relationship health? Do you have stories of what happens when things aren’t maintained? Please share in the comments!
I always tell my married girlfriends that the grass is definitely not greener on the single side. I tell them their husbands are good men and they should hold on to them. The single market is tough and its hard to meet anyone without baggage unless they’re under 25.
I tell my younger friends (early 20s) to get married to their boyfriends ASAP and have babies. They think I’m crazy. Normally they say they want to build their career and travel first. But I say you can do that while having a family. They have the energy level needed. In my opinion, the love you have at a young age cannot be found again. We get harder and compromise less as we get older. I just had this conversation with a 21 year old friend saying she’s at her peak and she agreed. Funny though, another girl interjected saying she is also at her peak at 37. Um no. Sadly 37 is not a woman’s peak.
https://www.bolde.com/im-panicking-im-getting-older-theres-no-one-left-date/
“I’m going to cut my hair.”
Why?
“Its would be convenient”
It would be unattractive.
“Yes but it would be so convenient.”
You are not convenient.
She didn’t cut her hair.
The second you chose convenient or easier you are sending a message and influencing your own behaviour.
(The main reason guys hate short hair, sweats, etc. Its not the look, its the message.)
Im not working out today.
Why
I have a headache.
(Just stared for a second, it honestly didnt compute)
Whats one got to do with the other?
If its time for work you go, if its time to exercise you exercise, if its time for your partner your with your partner.
Every time you make a choice it has consequences.
Nothing ” just happens”
My favorite muscle shirt
(After overhearing “I could look like that” for the thousandth time)
No, You can’t
If you could, you Would
(Not a hulk but at 55, 6-1, 180 and can still bench 200 and run a 30 minute 5 km I’m way better than my cohort)
City boy looking over my green back lawn during last year’s drought.
“Nice lawn, why’s it so green back herecompared to out front?”
“Septic bed” while sipping my beer.
Water your flowers. Not because they deserve to be watered, but because they need to be watered.
Soundtrack to your post, RPG.
😉
Great advice, RPG. I’d say all keep things interesting by doing new and challenging things together.
The easiest solution is to just not be in a relationship, as they are quite high maintenance and expensive, especially for the guy.
As for actual advice? I have none that isn’t considered “stock”, as I have only been in one relationship ever, and it was not good.
Normally they say they want to build their career and travel first.
Odd how fellas never mention travel they do
What I like most about mgtow conversation above is if a man isn’t making his life easy….he’s less apt to let his woman slide into easy or convient situations.
We don’t like short hair, we don’t like pudgy, we don’t like sweats, etc. It takes work to be beautiful just like it takes work for a man to be successful.
‘Odd how fellas never mention travel they do’
It’s because it’s not a major accomplishment.
Hopping on a plane and seeing a different track of land is great for storytelling…but it’s not like building a business or giving birth to a child.
“Do you have tips for maintaining relationship health?”
https://heartiste.wordpress.com/the-sixteen-commandments-of-poon/
good for however long or short the relationship lasts. CH doesn’t strike me as the type of man to keep a woman for longer than three months, though. So your mileage may vary.
I hate to admit it but the CH commandments are absolutely correct. That type of man is whom I would fall head first for… And oh my goodness, what a roller coaster ride it is. And after each heartbreak, I say nope, this time I will try for a nice guy… But there I go right back on the CH roller coaster.
Horseman here’s a good post along those lines, wanting is not the same as doing. Want muscles? Get lifting or whatever. So true! The choices we make now determine where will be, or not, in 10 years. https://redpillawaremale.wordpress.com/2018/02/26/10-years-from-now/
@red pill eagle in that case you are in a relationship w yourself. Water the grass there! 🙂 Liberally!
Watering the grass in truly bad relationships may not work, no matter how well tended by one side. Sorry to hear you experienced that, you are certainly not alone here!
@ Love; thanx for the AWALT confirmation yet again. 😉
Nice guys are predictable or supplicative to her whims hence no roller coaster.
The myth is only cads or sociopaths provide the roller coaster and it’s destructive…strong masculine men provide the constructive roller coaster.
If one is pushing themselves with worthy real life pursuits, that should provide enough roller coaster.
A psychologist friend actually said that once as we pondered modern day problems, he said life is too easy now! The human mind MEEDS problems, he said. His advice was to create good problems (train for a sport, start a biz, set a goal, learn a new skill) vs letting your mind create problems — bc it will and usually not good ones!
I wouldn’t encourage men to live a cad lifestyle…but that they should have a backbone because of how it affects her emotionally. She may scream pout whine or act like a brat…but it’s all part of the roller coaster.
And over time she’ll either grow to love it or wuss out.
True Earl the guy has got to hold the frame. She may fight it at times, but his not wavering brings comfort and certainty. If she wants him, she’ll adapt. Or she bounces off and seeks someone else, in which case bullet dodged.
“A psychologist friend actually said that once as we pondered modern day problems, he said life is too easy now! The human mind MEEDS problems, he said. His advice was to create good problems (train for a sport, start a biz, set a goal, learn a new skill) vs letting your mind create problems — bc it will and usually not good ones!”
^^Yes, Bloom, that is very true. My dad used to say that to us growing up, that even on vacation, be sure to do a few math problems (major LOL) because your brain starts stressing itself out if you totally have nothing to work on and too much leisure.
Setting goals, managing finances, maintaining fitness, cooking new recipes, figuring out my kids, doing daily life with my husband (which is so much fun!!!)… those are all things that keep my mind trying to solve things. Especially the kids part. That’s like never-ending counseling, encouraging, helping, teaching, etc.
Well my statement is more for women like Love who think their only choices in men are nice men who are bland and supplicative or cad/sociopaths who lead them on a destructive roller coaster for their own narcisstic needs.
You know the whole AF/BB thing. Women don’t want boring but I doubt in the long run they want their hearts beaten into a pulp for temporary thrills either.
If you notice you rarely ever hear talk about the third man option…because that option actually puts the ‘alpha’ cads to shame.
I’ll give props to Wayne too…he wrote something that outlines it perfectly.
https://sigmaframe.wordpress.com/2018/02/27/pushing-the-line/
‘ I have to say that expressly demanding positive responses to my bids has done the most towards correcting her bad attitude.’
You can build the roller coaster…fellas.
Earl do you mean that any man who follows the CH 16 commandments is a sociopath/cad? Can you explain what differentiates the 3rd man option from the cad?
I hate to admit it but the CH commandments are absolutely correct. That type of man is whom I would fall head first for… And oh my goodness, what a roller coaster ride it is.
Compare that with what guys want
https://spawnyspace.wordpress.com/2018/02/28/sotu-what-men-want/
The third option will seek to build you up into a better woman and not put up with your destructive tendencies.
A cad not only minds the destructive tendencies…that’s what he’s looking for to exploit for himself.
Nice guys only react to it and submit to it. He doesn’t demand or even ask for you to change.
Yes Stephanie, create (or focus on the many always available) “good” problems to solve! Influence others to create “good” problems for their brains to solve, too! 🙂
Thank you Earl.
You can build the roller coaster…fellas.
https://spawnyspace.wordpress.com/2016/02/12/the-amusement-park-lament/
Hint: This third guy is often labeled, “ebul patriarchy!!!” 😉
Cad: Hey baby, let’s not get all caught up in labels, right now it feelz right… Live in the moment!
Blue pill: I dunno, what do you want? I mean it’s all about you being happy babe, I live to serve you…
Patriarch: I’ll pick you up at 8. We are doing X. Bring sammiches.
Or something like that! Lol
Bingo.
The roller lasted is a classic post with some very classic Ton comments to boot, as well as from Tarn and Cill and everyone! Good stuff! Must read!
Lol actually do not read the comments, nothing to see there… La la la. (Ok read the comments except mine! I blame Liz for anything inappropriate I may have said, that Liz was always good at getting me to overcomment! Except now I can’t blame her anymore. Shoot! Lol. Miss you Liz! Over sharing is not the same wo you! But I manage…for the good of the order, of course! lol )
By the way the autocorrect on my phone seems dead set on inserting typos INTO every post and comment – even turning words into non-words. My apologies! If you see a comment w/o a typo in it that’s supposedly mine, question it! Lol.
Lol great examples RPG! 😂
From horseman’s link:
Now I’m in my 30s and single again and I realize that I should’ve found a good guy then and snapped him up!
Men don’t think of women being in their 30’s, and don’t treat it a monolithic descriptor. Women are 30-33, value = X; or 34-36, value equals X*0.50, or 37-39, value equals X*0.25.
Same goes for the “20’s”. Except trade X for Y, where Y = 2.5X.
I’ve never been one to give up on my standards, but I’ll admit the thought crosses my mind. I’ve definitely settled in the past and it was terrible, but I feel like now all my viable options have passed me by while I wasn’t paying attention. I am afraid that the longer I hold out, the more I’ll have to settle later on.
We should all pray fervently that she never settles, because she would just make some innocent guy miserable for the rest of his life.
And
Both these guys are my age.
How long did it take them practicing to make it so effortless?
Your mission is NOT for her or anyone else!
If you do anything to impress/get others it will never take root, you will never tough out what is required.
Your passion is for YOU.
Steph is perfectly right. You need your mission.
And best done when you are ZFG about what others think of your mission.
(Buddy is major stamp collector. Everyone else avoids the subject like the plague.
One day over beers I asked him to show it to me. I know nothing, will never care.
But the passion in his face, the excitement in his voice about some obscure tidbit was enthralling. Most people think its geeky but to him it was The Grail.
Compared to other buddies whose passion is binge watching Netflix he is a god.)
Do something, anything, but do it with your spirit.
If it gets others riled up, great, if not, who cares?
I mean seriously…harp guitar…that goes over at parties!!
Until you hear him play!!
‘We should all pray fervently that she never settles, because she would just make some innocent guy miserable for the rest of his life.’
She probably didn’t realize she was already settling with the meh sex with the abusive cad. Your ‘evil patriarch’ types see that and think…next.
If you notice you rarely ever hear talk about the third man option…because that option actually puts the ‘alpha’ cads to shame.
……
You should check into rehab for your drug induced delusions
Women and travel
Can’t prove this but I reckon the deal on travel is status marker. Ie disposal wealth to blow on dumb shit. That and they are too stupid to understand their nice time in the 3rd world is an extremely controlled environment
Excellent refute, Ton.
It was an excellent rufte because anyone with half a workinng mind would figure out your 3rd option was what women were shit canning when they cranked up the feminism train all them years back….. but it will be different this time…. somehow…. is the battle of the dofus tradcon
Traveling makes me grateful for living in the US. And Ton is right, it is in very controlled environments. The locals normally don’t harm tourists because that destroys their income. Some women and some men travel to 3rd world countries for its sex tourism. Though the women call it love.
I heard this lady say how wonderful her trip to Africa was…. she went to the same general area I did and what I saw was dudes fucking goats, a woman getting stoned for stealing a guys dick and was told not to eat any street food because canablaism was rather common.
Lol I wonder what that lady saw to have a great time 😀 There was a movie Paradise: Love about women traveling to Kenya for its sex tourism I.e. love.
Or maybe she was into watching dudes bang live stock? That shit is common as dirt in africa, middle East etc etc
That’s so sad. Animals are mistreated in most of the world. Perhaps kindness to animals is a 1st world privilege.
It’s a Western thing. Even the wealthy Koreans and Japs were pretty callous to critters, same for what I saw in South America and Latina America
Though I hear things are improving
Ton I am sure you have pretty much seen it all. And can attest those are not just made up isms.
@love sounds like a sure recipients for HIV or some such, those “ladies” are nuts. No way in he11. Nope!
One thing I do appreciate when I travel is the slowness of pace. People elsewhere take things easy. Socialize all day. Live happier lives. Though it could be because most are poor and unemployed with nothing else to do.
@ Love I saw the same in parts of China so remote it may as well have been 300 years ago. People did not have much materially. Bit there was a connection and community I had never seen so genuine. Maybe that’s true wealth?
I agree. I come back home with a much easier relaxed mindset. We get very wrapped up in the rat race here. Though landing in the US is always such a wonderful feeling. Happy to be back to clean water, technology, and comfort.
There are a shit ton of great places to see. I loved my time in Spain and Scotland
LOL HIV in Africa? What is the aides rate there? Like 9 out of 9 people are infected? Recently read the life expectancy in Africa is up to 55 because hiv meds are cheaper and more effective
I love Scotland ❤ Especially the Highlands.
The HIV strain in Africa is a different strain than the one in the West.
Really Love? How do? More aggressive? Less?
https://www.webmd.com/hiv-aids/types-strains-hiv
‘It was an excellent rufte because anyone with half a workinng mind would figure out your 3rd option was what women were shit canning when they cranked up the feminism train all them years back….. but it will be different this time…. somehow…. is the battle of the dofus tradcon’
I knew I’d finally get a point out of you instead of a hapless insult. Well done.
Did I hurt your wittle feelings again Earl?
If you want to be taken like a mature adult, refuted like a mature adult then post some shit more advance then a parrot mimicing a drunk 6 year old cause I do not see the need to waste a lot of words refuting shit 1st hand observation/ casual knowledge of history proves to be ridiculously wrong
‘Did I hurt your wittle feelings again Earl? ‘
No.
You amuse to me with that cartoon character personality.
Must suck having all your brilliance destroyed by a carton character and a hand full of sentences…. but never fear you can hide be hind the tradcon wall of it says xyz in the Bible when your position is untenable
Love –
I always tell my married girlfriends that the grass is definitely not greener on the single side. I tell them their husbands are good men and they should hold on to them. The single market is tough and its hard to meet anyone without baggage unless they’re under 25.
I tell my younger friends (early 20s) to get married to their boyfriends ASAP and have babies. They think I’m crazy. Normally they say they want to build their career and travel first. But I say you can do that while having a family. They have the energy level needed. In my opinion, the love you have at a young age cannot be found again. We get harder and compromise less as we get older. I just had this conversation with a 21 year old friend saying she’s at her peak and she agreed. Funny though, another girl interjected saying she is also at her peak at 37. Um no. Sadly 37 is not a woman’s peak.
truth.
it’s interesting passing along wisdom like this to those who haven’t thought this way, isn’t it 😉 .
btw – i really enjoy your comments. you have a beautiful heart, and i hope you find a man who sees that and wants you to share his life with him 🙂
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mgtowhorseman –
“I’m going to cut my hair.”
Why?
“Its would be convenient”
It would be unattractive.
“Yes but it would be so convenient.”
You are not convenient.
She didn’t cut her hair.
The second you chose convenient or easier you are sending a message and influencing your own behaviour.
(The main reason guys hate short hair, sweats, etc. Its not the look, its the message.)
Im not working out today.
Why
I have a headache.
(Just stared for a second, it honestly didnt compute)
Whats one got to do with the other?
If its time for work you go, if its time to exercise you exercise, if its time for your partner your with your partner.
Every time you make a choice it has consequences.
you articulated this well here. difficult concepts in this day and age, sadly.
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RichardP –
Water your flowers. Not because they deserve to be watered, but because they need to be watered.
yes.
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Stephanie –
Setting goals, managing finances, maintaining fitness, cooking new recipes, figuring out my kids, doing daily life with my husband (which is so much fun!!!)… those are all things that keep my mind trying to solve things. Especially the kids part. That’s like never-ending counseling, encouraging, helping, teaching, etc.
love! 🙂
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Bloom –
Yes Stephanie, create (or focus on the many always available) “good” problems to solve! Influence others to create “good” problems for their brains to solve, too! 🙂
love! 🙂
Thank you Ame. You are so sweet ❤❤❤