Sorry for the lack of new posts this week. Long story.
In the meantime, please free flow your own ideas, struggles, insights, questions, observations, or whatever is going on this week with you in the comments.
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Notes From a Red Pill Girl 
I shared this at Spawny’s so i’ll share it here, too 🙂
y’all, we had the intake meeting for my Aspie Girl today for what is basically adult special ed in our county, and it went GREAT! they will help her with lots of things including determining what kind of work she can do well and succeed at and then helping her to do so. we have a sixty day wait till she’s either approved for their services or not, but our counselor said that with the documentation i had that she’ll probably be approved (they have to meet certain criteria).
i know that’s just a few sentences, but this is so HUGE for her and all of us. she’s so excited because she wants to work and earn her own money and go to the junior college and learn new things. this place has the resources to test for her strengths and weaknesses in a variety of ways, try out different things, and help her be successful.
i did cry at one point – totally unexpected. she asked if we’d share what happened with their Dad. Oldest started the story but i had to finish it, and then i started to cry 😦 . but it was okay. i quickly abbreviated the story and moved on.
i know we have to wait for the official approval, but sixty days is no big deal in these kinds of processes.
such a huge weight off my shoulders; i was really a bit stressed going into this. had to gather lots of documentation from over her lifetime. hoped i had what they needed. turns out i did 🙂
That’s awesome Ame! I am so happy for all of you, and what a blessing to have the opportunity to go to a school that has the understanding and resources to help your daughter find her life path. So awesome!!! Thanks for sharing the happy news! 🙂
thank you, Bloom! one of the reasons this was such a huge deal is that i’ve been homeschooling her the last 4 years, so they don’t have current testing data on her. in our state they do full testing evaluations every three years, and her last was done in 2013. however, that full eval was sufficient for much of her needs. also i had the original diagnosis documents for most of her diagnoses.
it was interesting … the autism diagnosis seemed to be a huge deal, more so than the others. and she indicated that they’ve improved and expanded their services for autism.
here’s my theory on that. our school district is large and encompasses a lot of land space, a good portion of which is UMC. these are families where mom worked in a career before having kids, and when she had kids, she had at least one autistic kid. these are moms who then had a mission with the skills, resources, and now passion to back that up. those moms with kids in school who advocated fiercely for changes in the public school system now are moms with adult kids who still need services … and they’re still advocating for their adult kids.
and … we benefit from that 🙂
the counselor was very informed and asked my daughter strategic questions without any negative judgement or response. everything she said and presented was to determine what my daughter is capable of, the areas she will need help and/or assistance in, and ways they can accommodate her based on her, personally.
it was honestly so refreshing. in school everything was about what they could do to change her. this was about how they could work with who she is to maximize her strengths, strengthen or work around her weaknesses, and help her become successful with resources from a wide variety of places, both internal and external.
it was interesting that the concept of student loans for college came up. i stated emphatically that my girls are not allowed to take out student loans – that if they want a higher education, they must work for the money first and pay as they go.
i could tell that this was a foreign concept to her (as it was to ALL of her teachers when she was still in public school), and it looked like something the counselor would personally ponder for some time.
it took awhile for her to understand that being against going into debt for college didn’t mean we were not against college or expanding her education.
@ Ame agreed re avoiding student loans. I think that’s smart but I bet it was a shock. It’s just assumed anymore, “Get a loan!” I am glad you are teaching your kids loans aren’t the only way!
There is a new post at Spawny’s
https://spawnyspace.wordpress.com/2018/03/14/of-fish-and-bicycles/
Free flow, huh. You could make this a monthly thing. Ba dump-tshhhh!
@ deti; that’s what I originally thought the post was about too until I read further.
I’m starting to think I have a tougher time dating 30+ year olds than 20 or 25 year olds although I’m old enough for both. I don’t have any reasons or proof, but I can express what I feel or have seen. The older she is, maybe the more experience she has with what she likes or doesn’t like. Also, over 30 she probably wants a guy that is settled down rather than one that is still figuring things out. I meet a lot of 30+ year olds with life experience (long past relationships, engagements, marriages, kids, etc) that I’ve never had. All that said, I’ve just never come close to a relationship with a stereotypical “looking for a guy, desperate to settle down” 30 or 35 year old female. It’s just disappointing and concerning since I have more in common cultural with someone born during Reagan than someone born during Clinton.
bwahahahahaha!!!
’m starting to think I have a tougher time dating 30+ year olds than 20 or 25 year olds although I’m old enough for both
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That’s the general man o sphere observation
‘I’m starting to think I have a tougher time dating 30+ year olds than 20 or 25 year olds although I’m old enough for both.’
They’re less malleable at that age.
I wouldn’t go any higher than 27…and I’d prefer 25 or younger.
Ame.
I started saving in grade 10 for school and worked 50+ hours a week each summer thru grade 13 to go to a three year college. Because I couldn’t afford residence I commuted by bus two plus hours each school day during those years. But I graduated without any debt.
Then after two years of trying and not getting a job in my field, I started a different office job. Later to get promoted I needed special knowledge in my new field so in my thirties I went to night school for years after work, again paying as I went.
Now at 54 no one is going to hire me as an administrator so I am waiting to qualify for a government program to train me for an independent career in the trades.
I have had to totally retrain three times in my life. “You have degrees in what? But they are unrelated!” All required to get a better job. Each possible thru saving, hard work and no debt.
Stick to your guns.
Here is the perspective of a middle-aged man in Los Angeles. I posted this comment to Sunrise Hoodie’s MGTOW channel on Youtube in response to a video that he posted about how all of us were raised blue pill.
It really says something that you feel as clueless about relationships and female nature as you say that you feel considering that you came from a loving intact nuclear family. Moreover, your mother is a marriage/family counselor (for God’s sake). Most of us who come from Baby-Boomer single-mother households assume that we would have been far better off if our dads had been more involved. Oh, but wait. My dad is totally useless. I guess that I just assumed that other dads were less useless. At the same time none of the fathers of any of my friends were really any better at preparing us for the hazards of relationships and female nature. Leaving the contributions of dads aside for a moment I think that it is interesting to consider the double whammy we received by being raised by our mothers. You would think that the consolation for not being able to learn how to be a man from our mothers would be that we would learn well how to deal with women. Instead, what we learned well was the disinformation that women believe about themselves. Women believe their own BS, and that is what they taught us. Changing the subject slightly I want to register that I have no problem with women taking the lead in the family. I am a healthy feminist in that sense. The problem that I have, however, is that on one hand many women want to take the lead, and then on the other hand too many women seem to lose the vagina tingles for the guys who let them lead. Changing the subject again I want to mention something that I need to mention to the younger guys in Jerry Liu’s MGTOW crew here in Los Angeles. The younger guys get used to women being interested in them at some level. Women’s interest in men goes away as they reach their late forties. I am fifty years old, and I, a good-looking guy with a good job and no baggage (never married, no kids), can’t get a woman my age to give me the time of day. At the same time the twenty-two year old women running the cash registers at Trader Joe’s think that I am the cat’s whiskers. I reached the age of forty-five alone and without a prayer of getting a woman. My point is that I could have found myself alone at the age of forty-five in good shape physically and financially. Or I could have found myself alone at the age of forty-five after two divorces and paying child support to ex-wives who hate me for four children that I never see. Finding myself alone at the age of forty-five was always in the cards. I looks like it is hookers and sex dolls from now on. I only regret not turning to hookers and sex dolls sooner.
Anon
Assuming you are older (say 35+) and somewhat established.
To a 25 year old that means cool older guy with his own place, car and money to play.
Its fun, its play, its for this weekend.
To a 35 year old this means possible provider, possible babydaddy, possible prizes.
Its business, its choosing, its for the five years to get married have a kid and trigger frivorce.
Duh. Of course its easy.
“Hey baby, wanna go to bermuda for the weekend?”
25 “wow chance of a lifetime!”
35 “huh lifetime of chance?”
At dalrocks i think there was an argument that mgtow are going to be slackers who work only enough for porn and beer. Great for 25 sucks being poor at 35 or 45.
True and I agree in that scenario.
There is also a large cohort of guys that are getting a career, going into trades, making something of themselves. And they are mgtow too.
As in some of the guys on the work crew I sometimes sub for. There are almost half of the guys scattered 22 to lage 30s that are never married and some unofficial form of mgtow. At least four have their own hoiuse, well fixed up, almost paid off.
And being full cert plumbers, carpenters, electricians these guys make ok coin, say 60-70.
My earliest intro to mgtow was a pt courier I had in the late 90s. Guy 40s then. Worked m, t, w had the rest off. Because he always lived alone, his wee house car and boat were paid. Oh he had dates often but never a “relationship”. Asked him why and he said (never forget) ” because I never met a girl i lime better than fishing.”
I think those are gonna be the happy guys. Who see the state of girls, are self motivated enough to want to work for the sake of working, but wont hesitatre to say fuck it and walk off the job if they want.
Imagine a tradesman who only has to house, feed, care for himself. Skills in demand, simple needs, money enough to play.
Cat ladies will hate him!!
And that dailymail piece quoting some government study that the average age of marriage in the u.k. is 35.
Yes second marriages are pulling the number (a 25 and 45 averages 35)
And the age of First marriage is now 28 and climbing.
Question. Why the hell does anyone marry a 35+ woman??
Date, LTR sure but put up your cash and prizes…why??
At 35 she is NOT going to have kids for you (ok 1 in 100 without 10k ivf)
Her beauty is on its last legs and losing altitude fast
Her career….she wants to bail rather than another 30 years of work.
So why? What the hell does she bring?
Seriously?
Anyone?
Followup: And for everything you are going to say
How is that (your reason) better at 35 than at 28 (who is fertile and pretty)?
Horseman – very impressive!
I always made a point to go in the week before school with my daughter to meet with her lead sped teacher. when she started high school, we went in to meet her lead sped teacher and also met the director of sped. college came up, and my daughter stated, “I won’t take out student loans to go to college.” and these two women were shocked and a bit … stubborn about supporting them.
here’s the deal … these two women head up special education! and they’re encouraging special ed kids, who already struggle in so many areas, to indebt themselves to the federal gov’t for a college education that they very likely won’t be able to use. I was incensed.
she was actually only in high school two weeks before I pulled her out to homeschool her.
but it’s a terribly sad commentary that kids are trained to indebt themselves before they are even legal to drink. ugh. it’s criminal.
horseman asked: ” Why the hell does anyone marry a 35+ woman??”
Because they’ve been living together for 15 years and he finally decides it’s time to make an honest woman out of her?
Honestly, I’ve seen comments about these later marriages that seem to assume some guy met a 35-year-old woman and asked her to marry him. I would be surprised if my response wasn’t closer to the truth. Living together for a long time (so they each get the benefit of the other’s youth) and then deciding to make it official.
@ Roger Blakely MGTOW welcome and thanks for the insightful comment. Hookers and sex dolls sooner… Lol! That pretty much says it all. I bet most women have no idea how badly they “get” what men need and want. Not worth bothering with most.
Hookers get what guys need and want, and it’s not just sex! Hooker blogs can be quite insightful, believe it or not! Same w escorts and courtesans blogs. More women should read them, IMHO.
Why the hell does anyone marry a 35+ woman??”
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Because the dude is 70?
Thanks for the feedback! I’m in my mid 30s. If I had to guess, I’ll meet a 25 year old and probably get married to her a few years later when she’s 28 or so. Obviously, all else equal younger is superficially better but I want to meet someone that’s familiar with my culture and what I experienced growing up. It just feels odd at times going out with girls that remember neither the OJ chase nor 9/11.
Richard
I agree with you, the only logical explanation.
But where does that leave the 32 year old who is exiting the carousel
Or the 33 year old SIW who is looking at 32 more years of supporting herself til retirement,
both without a current boyfriend?
Ames
Unlike you they are looking out for the system not your daughter which is deplorable.
If anything they should be the resource to help you with a more difficult career fit choice.
Kudos for sticking it to them.
Anon
Try making a Flintstones, Brady Bunch or Gilligans Island reference.
Its a sad day when they say “Mary Ann who?”
Anyone want to explain this?
Apparently they are selling.
http://nationalpost.com/life/fashion-beauty/for-a-mere-737-you-can-now-buy-a-designer-dry-cleaning-bag-to-wear-as-a-dress
‘Anyone want to explain this?’
The fashion industry and its customers are idiots.
Either that or they try to troll as much as they can with fashion to see what useful idiots will buy.
thank you, Horseman! I appreciate the encouragement. I definitely made more enemies than friends while my daughter was in the public school system. my role was HER advocate, not theirs. unfortunately, their dad hated me so much he always sided with the school, so I was not only fighting the system but him, too, in order to protect her. lots of really, really hard years.
If you have an hour to listen…Stefan basically points out to every woman in their teens-20s to shape up so they don’t end up like this feminist 32 year old from Sweden.
From Stefan’s video
“Hope is not a Strategy!!”
This is a 32 female doctor who has insane standards.
Stefan asked her “of the 100 men you met, dated in your twenties, was there one that got away, one you could have settled down with?
Her answer ” No…none”
And now she will not change. Stefan lays out how each of her list drops the odds e.g. no one under 5-8 drops 60% of living men. Takes it to 1:1000.
Stefan asks “as a doctor, you tell patient you have 1:1000 chance to live without treatment and patient says I refuse, I still have hope. What would you say?
SHE STILL RATIONALIZES!! (53 min in)
Ladies you must listen.
P.s. this video is breaking the internet today.
Scarlett Johansson is 5 ft. 3 in. tall and weighs 125 lbs. Jinsan’s 163 cm H-cup doll is 5 ft. 4 in. tall and weighs 110 lbs. Put Jinsan doll head #89 on the doll, and you have Scarlett Johansson with a boob job. But talking to my guy Jeff at Booty Call Dolls I said, “I’m kinda partial to a more traditional American beauty. Do you remember Jaclyn Smith from Charlie’s Angles?” Jeff said, “Sure I do. That’s Jinsan doll head #149.” SOLD to the man in Los Angeles for $2000.
Anyone want to explain this?
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Because women are stupid
But where does that leave the 32 year old who is exiting the carousel
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Chasing 52 year old cock
But the 52 year old is chasing and getting 25 year olds
@ horseman; said 32 year old is a cougar chasing younger men to pump and dump her and that’s if she is in good shape for her age. If not, than she is investing in cat food.
“Hookers get what guys need and want, and it’s not just sex! Hooker blogs can be quite insightful, believe it or not! Same w escorts and courtesans blogs. More women should read them, IMHO.”
Prudie Bloom tryin’ to keep decorum, but comment is redundant. By the way Bloom, you gonna put up any links to said whore blogs are you want me to do some jooglefu and put one up? Nah wait, I got it. Be right back.
People who read CH know what this one is about:
https://whoresoftheinternet.wordpress.com/
This one was semi-promising; didn’t make past the first few sentences though.
https://thegoddessacademy.wordpress.com/2010/08/04/some-guys-are-worth-the-time/
I think found gold with this one;
https://maggiemcneill.wordpress.com/
😉
I would like to hear Bloom or Ame or Steph or any of the women lurkers impression of the Moleneux video.
@ gla lol I will have to look back and find some, and will look at the ones you suggest, but something the ones I have seen said yes it’s about sex, but many of the guys also just want to be listened to and understood and not argued with. They are paying for a “safe harbor” just as much as a guaranteed happy ending.
Dang Stefan was rocking on that Vid. I’d say that every single woman would be rewarded by watching it. The one thing I noticed is that he didn’t address the obesity question at all. Factor in that a girl is overweight … all with all the other stuff and her odds of finding a guy are zero. That would be Zero … nobody good enough and nobody wants you = ZERO. Oh, come to think of it there is another thing he didn’t address. The bitchiness factor. The longer these uppity single women with impossible standards hold out for perfection … the worse their attitude gets. At 32 … she’s just frustrated … by 38 she’s a man hating cunt wondering why her SOUL MATE hasn’t shown up yet.
But the 52 year old is chasing and getting 25 year olds
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Not typically. Unless he is at the top of his game/ banging the heavier 25 year olds and even when he is, most men won’t dip bellow the 12-15 years younger mark.
@ horseman I have not had a chance to watch it yet but will try to sometime today. I have a hard time watching videos actually, I much prefer to read a transcript than watch. Odd I know! 🙂
@gla the most recent post on the whores of the Internet one is downright chilling.
yikes!
What a Feminist song. Every message in this song is wrong for women.
Gla yes the Maggie one was one of the blogs I was talking about…
Ok the whole two income family argument.
From the numbers in this article
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/globe-investor/personal-finance/household-finances/rising-debts-explained-mortgage-plus-daycare-equals-financial-overload/article38291294/
Assume mortgage, groceries, etc. are a wash.
Taking only childcare costs and a second vehicle into account.
Daycare for an infant and a child under 5 according to the afticle is 2100 in Ottawa, 2600 in Vancouver and 3100 in Toronto a month. Take the middle, 2600.
Plus Jd Power in the fine print puts a car payment at 300 a month. Lets forget gas, work clothes etc.
2900 a month versus staying home. After tax. Thats 34800 a year. At that rate its 15% federal and 5% Ontario income tax for 41700 a year. Plus if they were not working the other spouse could take their basic deduction of 11000 a year that is non taxed. Brings the total to 52000 a year.
So the break even between working and staying home until the kids are in kindergarten is 51000 a year. Just subtract it right of the second parents wages.
They make 60000 a year as a nurse, manager, junior engineer??
Ah no…they really make 9000 a year or 750 a month over being a full time caregiver.
So the next time the government says what a great deal it is to get both spouses working…..
Do the math!!
(Im so glad the mrs stayed home.)
Oh and the article assumes one spouse makes 60k and one makes 40k.
Well no wonder they are 1500+ a month in the whole.
By my calcs above they are just breaking even (not counting using the basic deduction) on the 40k spouse.
Oh and those day care numbers are MEDIAN as in 50% of daycare costs More!!
(Yes yes some are cheaper but you get what you pay for.)
There is a new post at Spawny’s
https://spawnyspace.wordpress.com/2018/03/16/joseph-of-jackson-revisited/
very cool … and very interesting given lots of the age convo out here:
How two of President John Tyler’s grandsons are still alive, 174 years later …
Just three generations — President Tyler, his son Lyon Tyler, and grandson Harrison — span almost the entire history of the United States. …
John Tyler became president in 1841. He had eight children with his first wife, who died while he was in office. At 52, he married 22-year-old Julia Gardiner. They had seven children, for a total of 15 — the most of any president. He was 63 when son Lyon Tyler was born, whose first wife also died. Lyon also had a very young second wife, and was 75 years old when Harrison Tyler was born in 1928.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/how-two-of-president-john-tylers-grandsons-are-still-alive/