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A woman I know shared the following tale about her son and daughter in law the other day.
The couple dated for several years before getting married four years ago. A little over 18 months ago their baby girl was born.
He works for the National Guard. She is a part time nursing student and stay at home mom.
A little over a month ago, the wife revealed she was having an affair with a high school flame she reconnected with on Facebook. She told her husband she was considering a divorce.
A few days later she changed her mind and now says she wants to work on the marriage. It seems that means, “let’s pretend this never happened,” versus actually seeming to regret her affair or wanting to examine what happened. Rather than it being something big, it simply seems to be boredom.
His parents always worried about his choice, as the girl was prone to drama and conflict. The son made excuses for the behavior because of her, “tough childhood” and “parent’s nasty divorce.” She even worked very hard to win over his family before the wedding, saying how all she had ever wanted was a loving secure marriage like his parents have.
His mom and sister fear the wife is only biding her time, lining things up so she can serve him with divorce papers when the time is right.
Shes’s visiting her parents home an hour away more often these days, who also happen to live in the same area as the man she was seeing.
Of course there’s no way to know will she or won’t she pull the plug on her marriage, or if she’s continuing her affair, but it’s not looking good.
I hope she will come to her senses. I wish I could talk to her myself, warn her about what lies ahead if she persists in this foolishness. It only seems easier to start over, but it won’t be. Not even close.
If I could talk to him I would advise he take control of the situation rather than let her drive it, implement some dread and paint a good picture of what burning it all to the ground would look like if she persists.
Will they be another needless, senseless frivorce casualty? Only time will tell.
What do you think? Please share in the comments.
Notes From a Red Pill Girl 
The son is at a disadvantage Bc his father has been really good to his mom and while his mom is a wise woman and appreciated that, his wife sees it as blue pill weakness. She’d respond better to dread than roses, unlike his mom.
If more husbands responded to such situations as Deti suggests, in fact if this became the norm response, I wonder if there would be far fewer frivorces? Hummm..,,
i think that even we women who strive to be better, to do what’s right, to go against what so many try to draw us into, are TIRED of this selfishness, this self-serving propaganda that is destroying marriages and children and families and homes all around the world.
i want to point to more than myself when i teach my daughters that faithfulness matters. that denying oneself for the benefit of what is right and good and worthy, matters. that’s it’s not all about you all the time. sure, you will have your moments, but this life is not all about you; get over yourself. you were created for a purpose; find it and live it. and that purpose is NOT destroying people because you cannot control yourself.
this poor guy is finding out the sickness of selfishness in this world is rampant and no respecter of persons, not even him, and it SUCKS. it absolutely sucks. it sucks to have to make super hard choices because someone you trusted and made vows to and with walked all over them with filth and mud and grime and zero respect and yet turns around with little thought and tries to justify their stupidity.
EVERY.SINGLE.ONE.OF.US has the choice to be unfaithful. every.single.one.
choose what is right and good and pure simply because it is right and good and pure. choose it every single moment of every single day. choose it when it costs you nothing … and choose it when it costs you everything.
that chick is slipping home under cover of her family and screwing around on her husband … and her family knows (how can they not!). this is all so sick.
and i’m tired of it. i’m tired of spouses spitting on their marriages … of parents treating their children like gutter rats. i’m especially tired of it when it’s the wives and mothers.
stand up for what is right … even and especially if you have to stand alone. do it anyway. just … do it. stand up for yourself because you are of value when you give yourself value – and screwing around on your husband and destroying your children is NOT giving yourself value. stand up for your children because they have NO.ONE.ELSE. and stand up for your spouse because you made a choice to do so.
@Ame: “EVERY.SINGLE.ONE.OF.US has the choice to be unfaithful. every.single.one.
choose what is right and good and pure simply because it is right and good and pure. choose it every single moment of every single day. choose it when it costs you nothing … and choose it when it costs you everything.”
Burden of Freedom
***love***
From Ame: “i think that even we women who strive to be better, to do what’s right, to go against what so many try to draw us into, are TIRED of this selfishness, this self-serving propaganda that is destroying marriages and children and families and homes all around the world.”
“Do not be deceived: God is not mocked, a man will reap what he sows… So we must not get tired of doing good, for we will reap at the proper time if we don’t give up.” Galatians 6:7,9
We can’t point to ourselves because we make mistakes and aren’t perfect, but using examples and even using our mistakes helps a lot I think! Also, we can point to the women of the Bible – the verses give the perfect example of how we’re called to treat our husbands (especially Proverbs 31 when you really study it deeply).
#PREACH
Ame
1. I have more experience with this than I should admit. I agree with Deti’s view, though I would add “Put all her stuff in the front yard (excepting her computer) and call the local newspaper so they can photograph the display and publish it.”
2. I’ve never met a woman who thought abstractly and strategically about her branch swinging. I think there are two reasons: a) the culture says that emotional and sexual gratification comprise an end-state reward, sufficient and meaningful; b) a lot of women are still walking around under the “I have a magical pussy and men will do anything for access.”
3. So I agree that the adulterous wife probably got stiffed by her high school boyfriend, when she suggested that he take over for her husband, and support her financially and otherwise. (For some reason, most women think that if they marry for money that men don’t know that’s exactly what they’re doing; most women think that if they prove adulterous, with even an enamored lover, the man won’t ask himself, “When it is my turn to be cucked?”)
4. The situation in Bloom’s story is not salvageable, unless the husband wants to watch this unfold over, and over, and over again. And he may. He’s married to a child, and may not care. Most of the married men I know are of the “happy wife, happy life” variety, and lack the basic self-respect to require that the couple operate to maximize mutual benefit, not some chick with the maturity and thinking ability of a 12 year-old.
5.Someone like Virginia Woolf respected her husband enough to say, I’m suffocating here, I’m going to Paris for a couple of months. (Implied: extra-marital sex.) Leonard wrote her hosts and calmly explained that they needed to make sure she was asleep by a decent hour, or her illness would overwhelm her. This is the opposite of the “It just happened!” bullshit of Bloom’s subject wayward wife. .
An anecdote, because that is what I do:
I was reading the Sunday paper at the bar in an upscale “resort” (trust me, this isn’t Nantucket) location.
Because I learned the red pill, I talk to people and found myself in conversation with two young married females. Understand, there is ZERO privacy where I live. But I thought they were both very attractive, and they engaged me back. We had a two hour conversation. One was typical uptight midwest; one was not. One has two children under four, one has one three year-old. Both can rock a bikini.
The more attractive one — who is married to a leading lawyer, and owns a clothing company that she’s actually branded pretty well, and has a three year-old — got bombed. Her husband, based on Facebook, has gained 100 pounds since they got married, which I know because she ‘friended’ me on FB as soon as she got home. I mean, the guy looks like a manatee.
When her friend, who was freaking out (culture of no privacy etc) said they needed to go, the wife with the perfect life, stood up, kissed me, hugged me, and said, “I love you.”
Which young wife is having an affair this summer? Think she’s thought it through?
‘For some reason, most women think that if they marry for money that men don’t know that’s exactly what they’re doing; most women think that if they prove adulterous, with even an enamored lover, the man won’t ask himself, “When it is my turn to be cucked?”’
It’s the main reason why I would never hook up with a married woman or even a woman who has a boyfriend. If she does it to him, what’s to stop her from doing it to me. Loyality is big in my book.
. The situation in Bloom’s story is not salvageable
…….
yes and no.
It is salvageable.
DV laws won’t allow for it
***love***
thank you, Horseman 🙂
He should see a divorce lawyer even if he isn’t planning a divorce to protect himself from what appears to be the inevitable. One day he may come home and find the locks have been changed. Her visiting her parents often seems to me she is trying to convince them to allow her to blow up the marriage. What ever happened to “Till death do us part”?
Ames
Get the movie.
Second Hand Lions
One is Ton for sure.
Agreed Jack Russell, offense is the best defense. Him understanding how this all works and being ahead of her is better than being taken unaware.
Also agreed that the vows should mean a lot more than, “so long as I am haaaapy.” It’s sad how they seem to mean next to nothing to so many anymore.
He’s a good man. Father of her child. She won’t do better, no matter what she thinks now. If she goes ahead I predict she will see, the hard way. 😦
thedeti
–your husband will rule over you and you have to submit to him. In paradise, you were equals. Not anymore you’re not.
Deti – I don’t see that men and women were ever equals, even before the fall. did I miss something?
Horseman – I just ordered it. I’ve always wanted to see that movie but never have.
The only way to protect his assets is to dump her ass right now while her infidelity is fresh and he is to young to have acquired much in the assets.
The longer he waits the worse the fall out for him will be
I just still don’t get it….
why do women cheat? Why would they throw away their entire life and children’s lives and break up their families for sex… it doesn’t make sense to me when you think about how much you know they’ve invested (sometimes) into their family.
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Stephanie,
You can’t see it because you are not selfish enough.
You also would not be able to understand the concept of ‘my husband exists to fulfill me’, or ‘Children are to enrich my life but require minimal input from me’. See, there are many things that you will never understand because you are not focused on how everything only exists for your purposes.
I suggest you go to counseling and make sure that the counselor is only focused on feels.
On second thought, please don’t take that advice. I don’t want your husband hunting me down.
“I just still don’t get it….
why do women cheat? Why would they throw away their entire life and children’s lives and break up their families for sex… it doesn’t make sense to me when you think about how much you know they’ve invested (sometimes) into their family.”
Why? IMO once a woman decides that her whore’s heart lusts take precedence over reality, it does not matter who she destroys or what the costs may be. Even in the Bible’s example, she willfully commits adultery fully knowledgeable that the price of being caught is death by stoning. Did that matter? Not a bit. So in this present day world where there is no repercussions for a female to cheat, and is even being praised, there is no loss for her.
Perhaps the time HAS finally arrived in western culture to give these modern females 100% exactly what they want. Use them or cohabitate if that suits the man’s wants, but never give any commitment and certainly not marriage to these creatures. They have willing forfeit all considerations from men.
Oh I can tell you exactly why, and it comes from a young woman who did exactly that.
She said that she thought she was in love with the guy, and no longer had real feelz for her husband.
^^^THIS^^^
“Selfish” is the exact term she used to describe herself, when we were talking about what happened.
Most women aren’t honest enough to admit it to anyone, let alone to themselves.
‘why do women cheat? Why would they throw away their entire life and children’s lives and break up their families for sex… it doesn’t make sense to me when you think about how much you know they’ve invested (sometimes) into their family.
?’
You must still love your husband. Don’t ever change.
I’ll weigh in … more than just a little experience in this area.
#1 on the observation that most women don’t think it thru when they cheat and most husbands will figure it out. Wrong. Sorry … women most definitely do think it out … like this case … that chick new exactly what she was doing when she did it. And knew what she was doing when she told him. AND … the vast majority of men … are Blue Pill, wrapped up in life (working), creating a decent home (work), being a good father (work), pleasing his wife (work). In other words … they have so much going on and trust their wife … or he wouldn’t have married her. So … no … he wouldn’t have found out … not right away anyway … maybe 2-3 years down the road … maybe never. But I can say there was probably a 99% that dude was blindsided.
#2 Deti’s advice was pretty bold … but giving her the option, laying down the rules to her, etc … probably won’t work. Why ? You are not standing up as a man and laying the rules down to her … because its not her. Its SOCIETY. Its her, her friends, her co-workers, … her own family. And most importantly THE LEGAL SYSTEM.
For example, in the original post … bloom mentioned that her parents went thru a “nasty divorce” .. which means the mom knows how the divorce court works and that is 100% stacked in the favor of the woman. She’ll tell the daughter exactly what to do and that poor idiot will show up at home with the cops standing there with an Order of Protection … he is not to return home and if he does … he goes to jail. He does not get to see his kid, if he tries … he goes to jail. If he refuses to pay HER BILLS and the KIDS BILLS … he goes to jail. Oh, by the way … here are you divorce papers … your first hearing is in 60 days and it will likely be delayed. AND … HE”S FUCKED.
#3 As others mentioned if you wanna try that … do not say a fucking thing to her first … and do what I just described above … to her … first and without warning. Others haven’t mentioned this so I will … get an order of protection ON HER … and go dark. Do not talk on the phone, no texting, no email, do not see her … not even in public. Tell her that if she tries to contact you … you will call the police. The dude might want to grab the kid from daycare and get an order of protection because she’s an unfit mother who might harm the child.
#4 But the truth is … this guy is fucked. There is really nothing he can do. He’s fucked because the legal system is going to do it to him. All the woman has to do is pull the strings and there are plenty of people to tell her just how to do it … an not just her own lawyer. And there is really nothing he can do to prevent it.
#5 My advice and yes its horrible advice is this: Self preservation. Go to court … deny the kid is yours, tell them you don’t want custody or visitation and if they want … give it up for adoption … either way … YOU WILL NOT PAY FOR A KID WHO IS NOT YOURS. AND YOU ARE NOT PAYING ALIMONY. Do not request a DNA test !!!! Agree to give up 1/2 of all marital assets which is likely not much. In fact, you might want to agree to give her everything … empty the bank account and give her it all …. Tell the court … you’re fucking done and you want out … the kid ain’t yours … you’re not paying fucking thing for a kid who ain’t yours or a whore who used you. If you get a judge with 1/2 brain they will realize they can’t get blood from a turnip … and they’ll be seeing you in court over and over and over and over and over for years to come … never settling anything … because you were duped into marrying a lying whore … AND YOU KNOW IT. And … if they order you to pay for shit that you’ve made clear you refuse to … you will probably end up in jail and won’t be able to pay anyway. You might even might want to drop that … I”LL GO TO JAIL BEFORE I”LL PAY THAT WHORE FOR A KID WHO AIN”T MINE !!! If the judge has any sense … they’ll cut him free. Get girl wanted out, she wanted the kid … she got what she wanted, but now she’s on her own. That might happen … but I wouldn’t count on it … he’ll probably get fucked anyway.
they are short-sighted, Stephanie. they believe the lies. Satan is the master deceiver. he is not dressed to look evil, he is dressed to look good and appealing and beautiful and alluring, yet the truth is not in him.
yes, she knew what she was doing – it was a seed that was planted in her fantasies that she watered and tended and nurtured till it grew and grew and gave birth to death. now she’s scrambling. but she will do it again without a severe come-to-Jesus meeting and a lifestyle that keeps her on the straight and narrow.
his only hope in this culture is to get the best attny he can and protect himself yesterday.
For Her: nothing.
She is female and helpless before her desires.
For Him: run.
1 Quit job, crash accounts.
2 File for divorce, do not ask for custody or visitation.
3 Move far away.
Don’t wait, don’t hesitate, don’t negotiate.
Sad part is what men have to do because of the unjust state and courts because wives want to be feral in marriage…the courts just give them the house and kids as a reward for engaging in adultery or just not wanting to be married anymore…and the child suffers the most.
“Sad part is what men have to do because of the unjust state and courts because wives want to be feral in marriage…the courts just give them the house and kids as a reward for engaging in adultery or just not wanting to be married anymore”
IMO, this is exactly why no man should ever legally marry a western woman. Why willfully give any female the legal instruments to destroy a man and what he has built? The vast majority of these females of today are way past repair or redemption, they ought to be left to rot on their own. It is too bad that the very few decent women left here must pay for the corrupted ones, but that is more of the cost of this female rebellion.
sad but accurate
and you have to keep in mind that even the ones that seem decent, can change.
“and you have to keep in mind that even the ones that seem decent, can change.”..
Yes, even the decent women of today can flip into adulteress corruption tomorrow..Ame also said this before “EVERY.SINGLE.ONE.OF.US has the choice to be unfaithful. every.single.one.” and I completely believe her. So, what ought a man do to protect himself?
My thoughts is that women have declared open war on men in this country. Do we fight or surrender? If we fight, do we fight fairly or to win? If we decide to fight to win, do we only subjugate the enemy (women) or attempt their destruction?
I do not have any answers for this sick society.
@ Stephanie, the reasons I have heard are many, usually some form of hamster explanation about why they “had to” or “it just happened” or some such. Rollo has a good post about how he thinks it’s tied to the hormonal cycle, women are most likely to cheat when ovulating, he says. I don’t think many stop to think about the way it will affect others, or their kids, or their life. I am not sure it’s rational or logical (or wise obviously) it seems to be more hormone or emotion or attention driven. It’s too bad more don’t stop to think of the things you mention, bc you are right doesn’t seem worth it. Not at all… 😦
@Mega, true re the courts and the amount of resources and advice available to HER(not him) on how to navigate that.
In some states (mine anyway) children born into a marriage are considered the husband’s, even if dna tests prove otherwise. In this case I believe the girl truly is his child, but if she were not I think he’d be paying child support anyway. They live in CA, not sure what the rules are there.
But yeah unless he can get her to agree to a settlement like Deti proposes, which actually was more than fair imho, he’s probably not going to get anything close to that. Sadly.
@ Saracen I don’t think he can quit the National Guard but I get what you are saying.
Personally I hope he gets custody, the daughter will be put thru the wringer if she’s raised by her drama mamma. But chances are she’s going to get custody so maybe you are right, it may not be a battle he can win unless she just wants OUT and doesn’t care to be a mom. More likely she’ll fight to keep the child so she can get monthly child support and possibly alimony. What she doesn’t get is even with both she’ll still be worse off. She’s got no idea how hard her life will be.
Also she’s ok good looking but not WOW. She’s not as good looking as she was 5 years ago for sure. She’s likely thinking her smp value is what it was last she was in the market. But it’s not.
And now even if they do stay together, goodbye wife goggles. He will never see her the same.
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/life/relationships/article-is-it-possible-for-a-couple-to-keep-sharing-love-but-not-real-estate/
More and more we will see these Live Apart Together relationships. (The column assumes quasi marriage.)
As men reject legal marriage outright and common law, these will take hold as the only LTR alternative. Never stay in either house consistently enough to be common law.
“No judge, we dated 3 days a week for ten years but I was a bachelor for 4.”
And when she presses for commitment?
Ahahahahaha. And show her this story and thousands like it.
“Sure I trust you today hunny, you have no incentive.”
And when she issues the Or Else? I choose Else.
(Always call a bluffer, just to see the look on their face.)
Bottom line?
Peaceful long term cohabitation between the sexes?
R.I.P. we knew them well.
P.s. the Deti solution works.
When I was downsized within the hour Mrs overheard me calling the facilities lawyer (who I knew) not getting my own. I explained very clearly that the package was unacceptable and exactly which ministries I was calling and the reporters I knew. And gave them a deadline.
“We will fight this in the papers not in court.”
Within 48 hours the package doubled.
And I still get investigation work from the lawyer.
My wife saw me perfectly willing to burn my pension, settlement and career to get revenge.
And the lawyer had worked with me enough to see my walk away from the table saying “Get a jacket, the picket line will be cold.”
“If you can bear to hear the truth you’ve spoken
Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,
Or watch the things you gave your life to broken,
And stoop and build ‘em up with wornout tools;
If you can make one heap of all your winnings
And risk it on one turn of pitch-and-toss,
And lose, and start again at your beginnings
And never breathe a word about your loss;
If you can force your heart and nerve and sinew
To serve your turn long after they are gone,
And so hold on when there is nothing in you
Except the Will which says to them: “Hold on”;
….
Then you will be a Man, My Son.”
Part of If by Kipling.
Never be afraid of being reduced to nothing and starting over.
Without that fear common to most, you are Unconquerable.
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/investing/personal-finance/article-single-again-mom-needs-to-sell-some-property-to-reverse-current/
“At 51, Meredith is single again with two young children, ages 6 and 9, money in her various accounts that has not yet been invested, a new home in Eastern Ontario and a rental condo in suburban Toronto – her former home – with a big mortgage.
…
She works for the government, earning $66,000 a year. If she stays put to the age of 65, she’ll be entitled to a pension of $2,038 a month, plus Canada Pension Plan and Old Age Security benefits.
…
In the meantime, she wonders how to invest the money she received as part of her settlement with her former partner – she gets no child support – and whether she will ever be able to retire.
…
“At this point, I can’t see retiring since my children are so young,” Meredith writes. “I am worried that I won’t be able to fund their postsecondary education and will continue working well beyond age 70 to help pay for it.” Her goal is to maintain her lifestyle after she quits working.”
First kid at 42. Two kids under ten at 50. Another 15 years to retirement. No savings.
Ahahahaha.
Its called financial stress and sheer exhaustion….forever.
As opposed to the Mrs at 54 with both kids fledged thru university, a hubby to do the yard work and buying a winter home in the caribbean.
Hmmmm….choices and consequences???
‘She’d prefer to share a place eventually, but says she understands I need my own place, and doesn’t want to lose me over this difference.’
That’s called dread, fellas.
Meredith just learned being a wife to the government isn’t as a great alternative to being a wife to a man. But hey at least they got suffrage and created the husband they thought they wanted.
“Bottom line?
Peaceful long term cohabitation between the sexes?
R.I.P. we knew them well.”
agreed 😦
“Peaceful long term cohabitation between the sexes?” That comment certainly applies to the western cultures where the present female rebellion has taken root. If I were in the market to remarry there would not be a chance in hell I would consider a woman from the USA to couple with.
There are other good alternatives to choose from for a loyal and decent wife.
interesting conversation with my Oldest today (who is 20). she loves history and was sharing about President Wilson’s wife, Edith, pretty much taking over at the end of his presidency when he became ill.
that led into a discussion of strong women who support their husbands, under their authority, and the power and strength we women have with which we can do amazing things IF used wisely and appropriately … and how feminism has abused and shredded and destroyed that.
how sad and tragic.
women want to be men without ever seeing the beauty and strength in who we are as women. needing men and living under the authority of men does not make us weak or ineffective or stupid or whatever crazy thing they try to sell. needing men and living under their authority and honoring and respecting that makes us wise and cherished and beautiful.
we also talked about boys growing up in feminism never learning how to be authoritative or to take their authority and how tragic this also is. authority is not something we can give a man; he must take it.
Ame!!! A few years ago I wrote a post on women being a “muse” to their men and I used a few historical examples.
Woodrow Wilson’s love for his wife was one of them. It is SO. TOUCHING.
Here is the post:
http://girlwithadragonflytattoo.com/2013/11/15/inspiration-4/
If Woodrow Wilson ‘s wife was his muse they bit h should have drown as childern.
Few have done as much harm to what use to be America as Woodrow Wilson. I would say none but linclon
i am terrible with history and had to look it up (my girls have remarkable minds and memories and both have a love for history). from what very little i’ve read, what Wilson allowed his second wife, Edith to do, was not good.
however. what my daughter and i found remarkable was her ability to stand behind her husband and prop him up to look good without taking credit (that we two are aware of).
it led to wondering how many men in history had wives who did the same … and then to what kind of woman would be able to do so with integrity and her husband’s best interest at heart … and to being and becoming a woman of strength and character who supports her husband and wants the best for him without need for credit or public attention or accolade … and the kind of power that God gave to women to influence their men, which we should hold sacred and which we should be very, very discreet and discerning and wise about.
Stephanie, that is very sweet! that was written about his first wife who died when he was in office. he then remarried while still in office, and it was his second wife who took over behind the scenes and protected his public presentation of himself at the end of his presidency.
Women are brainwashed into thinking that being under the authority of a man makes them ‘doormats’.
By that rationale does that mean we are doormats under Christ’s authority?
They confuse authority with tyranny. Women are more prone to be doormats under feminism…a counterfeit authority.
A new post at Spawny’s there is
https://spawnyspace.wordpress.com/2018/04/23/shit-test-runaway/
She will leave him. if i were him I would be doing everything i leglaly can to protect myself from the inevitable gouging she will try to put on him. Get her followed..document EVERYTYHING…but be prepared to sump her when you ahve enough hard evidence of her continuing affair. If she pulls the ripcord before you can hnil her have all of your ducks in a row…it is only a matter of time.
@heiscomingsoon agreed, he should be taking steps to protect himself now, not wait for her to make a move. I will pass all this on to his mom and dad, hopefully they will be able to explain it to him. Denial is not a strategy!
document EVERYTYHING…
yes. this is very important.
it’s easier for some than others. i personally couldn’t do it though my attny and others advised me to. ironically, he documented every.single.thing i ever did and said and studied it all. it was a waste of his time, but he was fixated on finding *some* thing to make me look bad.
however, in his situation, documenting everything means … EVERYthing … phone calls, emails, conversations overheard, everything with the daughter, etc. attny’s need evidence. it may or may not do any good in the end, but at least he’ll have done all he can do.
@ ame you bring up a good point maybe unintentionally, she will likely be documenting everything. Him doing so isn’t out of spite tho, more like self protection. Many times good people don’t protect themselves while people who mean harm arm themselves to the teeth.
As Ton has said before and so think it applies here, you gotta deal w the tactical reality on the ground. If that’s all out war, and by down and dirty warfare rules, well one would be unwise to do anything but prepare accordingly. The other side surely will.
Bloom – that is one painful truth right there.
the one who is wanting out, for whatever reason, is the one keeping the log book on the other. the one who wants to keep it together is the one who is focusing on what’s good, not on what’s bad. but … self preservation. i couldn’t do it. but Ton’s right again … gotta deal w/the tactical reality on the ground. and it IS war when there’s a kid involved because you two are locked for life through the children.
ugh. it’s all so hateful and harsh and hard. i hate everything about it.
i hope this guy is able to step out of his funk and see the ‘tactical reality’ rather than what he hopes … cause this woman’s heart is long gone, and she’ll be out to prove it’s all his fault.
Betas and cucks would rather fight with honor ( whatever the fuck that means) and loose then fight for real and win.
He won’t do shit to protect himself but maybe you can convince him protecting himself and his fiscal future is how he protects his kinds later on down the road
@Ton, when I first outlined basically the Deti approach (you guys have taught me much!) to his mom when she first told me she was kind of shocked. The red pill approach can be I suppose. But yes if not to protect himself, to protect his daughter and any future kin.
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It really is marriage 2.0. From a post way back in ’09:
https://weddedabyss.wordpress.com/2009/09/27/marriage20/
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