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While listening to a vintage top 40’s radio show rerun, a song I had completely forgotten about reminded me of a Single Independent Woman (SIW) sitcom I watched often during my childhood: Laverne and Shirley.
Does this song ring a bell? (I apologize in advance if it gets stuck in your head now! Lol.)
Let’s look at the lyrics:
Making Our Dreams Come True
One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight
Schlemiel! Schlimazel! Hasenpfeffer Incorporated
We’re gonna do it!
Give us any chance – we’ll take it
Read us any rule – we’ll break it
We’re gonna make our dreams come true…
Doin’ it our way
Nothin’s gonna turn us back now
Straight ahead and on the track now
We’re gonna make our dreams come true…
Doin’ it our way
There is nothing we won’t try
Never heard the word impossible
This time there’s no stopping us
We’re gonna do it
On your mark, get set and go now
Got a dream and we just know now
We’re gonna make our dream come true
And we’ll do it our way – yes our way
Make all our dreams come true
And do it our way – yes our way
Make all our dreams come true
For me and you!
This is how Wikipedia describes the show:
“Laverne & Shirley (originally Laverne DeFazio & Shirley Feeney) is an American television sitcom that ran for eight seasons on ABC from January 27, 1976, to May 10, 1983. A spin-off of Happy Days, Laverne & Shirley followed the lives of Laverne DeFazio (Penny Marshall) and Shirley Feeney (Cindy Williams), two friends and roommates who work as bottle-cappers in the fictitious Shotz Brewery in late 1950s Milwaukee, Wisconsin. From the sixth season onwards, the series’ setting changed to mid-1960s Burbank, California. Michael McKean and David Lander co-starred as their friends and neighbors Lenny and Squiggy, along with Eddie Mekka as Carmine Ragusa, Phil Foster as Laverne’s father Frank DeFazio, and Betty Garrett as the girls’ landlady Edna Babish.
Noted for its use of physical comedy, Laverne & Shirley became the most-watched American television program by its third season [emphasis mine], and was nominated for two Golden Globe Awards and a Primetime Emmy Award in 1979.”
I found myself wondering how much this show affected my impressionable young mind, and the minds of other girls of my generation?
I also wondered what a follow-up would show? What would Laverne and Shirley be up to now? How did their plan work out? What specifically was their “dream” and did it come true?
What do you think? Please share in the comments!
Notes From a Red Pill Girl 
With those lyrics…it’s pretty much FU DAD!
I’m sure cats and anxiety medication were the ultimate end. But that’s not sitcom material.
Yup.
There is reality in the world. With reality comes limitations.
So how oppressive was the Evil Patriarchy on these women? That is what they had to be talking about. No guy would sing such a song so about “Evil Patriarchy” it was. So was capping beer bottles empowering and fulfilling?
‘So was capping beer bottles empowering and fulfilling?’
Perhaps…but it seems dysfunctional women put in nutty situations makes for laughs.
So what the heck were their dreams? Did they come true?
The opening theme song sounds like a feminist version of Sinatra’s My Way. The comedy on that show was exactly the same as what was on I Love Lucy or I Dream Of Genie or Bewitched. Laverne and Shirley were the plain jane versions of Ginger and Mary Ann.
i found this interview interesting – skip to 5:34.
The story about the waitress who blew it with the millionaire widower is truly awful.
The way that you told the story makes it clear that women do not understand how devastating this story is.
This is the end of women. This woman just proved to men that all women are like that. If women want to survive, they need to understand that they need to take harsh measures against this member of their group.
We need an article in the Atlantic Monthly called The End Of Women.
I want to go on record here as opposing the policy of dragging this woman into the street by her hair and publicly stoning her to death. But it is the responsibility of women to publicly shame her.
An ex-girlfriend of mine (2002-2005) died last month at the age of 63 years old. What did she die of? She died of the idea that she was a strong, independent woman. She wasn’t. She was never good at taking care of herself. Now she’s dead.
In the near future I will be found sitting in a restaurant in The Valley. Anyone glancing at my table will be able to tell exactly what is happening. They will see that a fifty-year-old professional man who is paying a twenty-year-old pornstar a thousand dollars for sex and that we are getting a bite to eat before retiring to the hotel room.
Two weeks ago I looked up Penny Marshall on Google because my Jewish coworker was trying to explain the difference between a schlemiel and a schlemazel. She was Meathead’s wife in real life. I thought that this part was funny.
She first appeared on a television commercial for Head and Shoulders beautifying shampoo. She was hired to play a girl with stringy, unattractive hair, and Farrah Fawcettwas hired to play a girl with thick, bouncy hair. As the crew was lighting the set, Marshall’s stand-in wore a placard that read “Homely Girl” and Fawcett’s stand-in wore a placard that said “Pretty Girl”. Farrah Fawcett, sensing Marshall’s insecurity about her looks, crossed out “Homely” on the Marshall stand-in placard and wrote “Plain”.[15]
Thankfully I grew up with “Dad’s Army” and “Hogan’s Heroes” …
But I’ve seen this stuff and it’s awful.
Freeview stations would use this kind of filler if anyone would watch it — at least they’re scheduling episodes of “Colombo” and “The Rockford Files” instead.
I’ll lump it with “Archie Bunker” for horridness, and the connection between Penny Marshall and “Meathead” is no surprise at all. But the ultimate American YouGoGrrl entertainment of the 1970s absolutely has to be “Mary Tyler Moore”.
Even the gung-ho attitude nearly rings the same in the theme tune: “You’re gonna make it after all …”
It could have been worse, it could have been the “My Way” song by Limp Bizkit. Or Ushers “My Way” who’d give you his herpes “his way.”
Never watched this show though. It was before my time.
I just realized I never watched much tv even as a kid.
Also, I didn’t watch Ame’s video but I find it highly unlikely the lady being interviewed was intresting. Unless she has a great rack and showed her boobs.
LOL! Sandra Bullock is a successful, single actress who adopted two kids later in life. she says in the video that after becoming a Mom she discovered that being a Mom is her sole purpose in life.
being financially successful she was able to adopt and is able to support the kids, hire any help she needs or wants, etc.
not going into her philosophies of life or her career …..
just the truth that women usually come around to figuring out – usually too late with too little left – that being a Mom is a purpose worth pursuing. of course, she leaves out the husband/father issue all-together b/c she’s all-woman raising these kids as a single mom – a boy and a girl.
of course this will send many mixed messages to young women – have a career, ditch the man, adopt the kid(s), and fulfill your true purpose in life.
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i didn’t grow up watching tv, either. it broke when i was little, and my mother never got it repaired. great decision.
oh, and i verified w/my Husband (wanted to make sure i got a man’s pov!) – she doesn’t have a ‘rack’ to look at at all 🙂
Normally I expect stupid nothing-ness to come out of the mouths of Hollywood types. Next time you should give a warning that what this Hollywood type has to say is actually semi-intelligent
FYI, Sandra Bullock is trans;
So she is rich and successful yet a complete dead end from a genetic/ evolutionary stand point?
What a stupid cunt.
I wonder what the average IQ of the typical actor/actress is…
If you are Meathead or married to Meathead, then that drags the average down
For those unfamiliar with Meathead
‘I wonder what the average IQ of the typical actor/actress is…’
They play make believe for a living.
It’s not a bad thing she adopted. Adoption agencies are overflowing with unwanted children. I wish more people would adopt instead of believing their own seed is somehow superior. (It’s not.)
ewww! i can’t ‘like’ that, GLA. that gives me the hibbie gibbies!
I wish that more people would stop throwing away their kids.
Well with any luck your a genetic dead end too
Oooh catty! Rawr.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5881839/amp/Divorced-City-worker-sues-elite-dating-service-12-000-failed-meet-anybody.html
‘I wish that more people would stop throwing away their kids. ‘
Yes, between abortion, willingly becoming a single mother and instigating divorce we’ve seen this happen to too many kids.
@Ash…
What the relationship with your father like?
It’s very good. I ride with him on his Harley often. I took him out to sushi for father’s day.
Earl,
What is the relationship between women and how well they got on with their dad?
FB: “I wonder what the average IQ of the typical actor/actress is…”
All over the place. It’s the constant attention to “how to I feel?” that tends to warp their perspective. Their training and, with many of the best, their natural inclination, is to sub-consciously track and exaggerate or bring to the surface how outside stimulus (often the behavior of others) makes them feel.
My take on the interview is that the interviewer is actually milking emotional responses out of SB by giving her emotions to react to or mirror. I guess it’s also possible that the interviewer is just overwhelmed that a celebrity is opening up to her and is kicking back her own easily opened emotional faucet (she also is a performer) … I’m not going to bother studying it frame by frame. I think you-all get my point. Their job is to be “moved” by emotional input … and it’s not fake, those are real emotions, the trick is in allowing yourself to be moved and then amplifying. It’s why performers get involved in wacky movements and politics and the like. Once you have that emotional talent, however, you know … well, your career in science is over.
I’ve known super intelligent actors and others who were dumb as logs. They are athletes; hit your marks (without seeming to) so that you are in the light and in focus (often one inch will make a difference), ride the subtle roller coaster provided by the script and the other actors performances, be able to do the same thing over and over dozens of even hundreds of times and make it seem like it never happened before, memorize up to 20 pages of script a night, and DON’T screw anything up because what you are doing costs $100 a minute or more.
That’s all that matters. That’s all they do that is important. Sandra Bullock and what she thinks, positive about parenting or not, who cares? The weird attention the public gives to what these highly specialized, circus act, geek-creatures think is the odd thing. Here’s my take on Bullock: Working on “Gravity” she spent hundreds, possibly thousands of hours in a flying rig (you are basically supported by cables and holding your body as if it WASN’T supported by cables), a significant physical feat, all the while giving an amazing performance with almost nothing tangible or visible to react to. Kudos. If she’s a good mom, also kudos. There’s a lot of good moms. Not as many as we’d like but very few of them do the really specific stuff she does … and here’s the point: specialists tend to be odd. That’s how they got there.
We are programmed to give our attention to Alphas, those who others are focused on. That attention just snowballs out of control and people become important because other people think they are important. Again, that’s fine but our society should appreciate them for their few remarkable talents … in context.
‘What is the relationship between women and how well they got on with their dad?’
Well for one…if it wasn’t for his seed they wouldn’t be here. So it would be good to know if she actually knows who her father is.
But mostly because they are the first male authority and influence they have in life. A lot of what they think men and patriarchy are comes from him. Their mother is the second biggest influence.
I’ve done this before and quite often with gals I’m interested with…ask about their father, their relationship with him, etc. It’ll give you more than enough info on their mindset and what they could eventually think about a husband and helping to create a father.
‘It’s very good. I ride with him on his Harley often. I took him out to sushi for father’s day.’
Fair enough.
I’d like to think I’d be that invested in my seed too.
Negative Ton, she is a he.
@Ame; you’re welcome. It’s a can worms that had to see the light of day. There is much more if you want to go there. 😉
oh, nooo, GLA … i’m more than content with the info i have – actually, if my brain had a little less info that would suit me just fine 😉
my Husband and i are having fun with this that i saw on fb today! 🙂
https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/711R77fomgL._UL1500_.jpg?fifu
@ gla wasn’t Bullock married to Jesse James, the motorcycle guy?
But I have heard that rumor that many famous people are trans but people don’t realize it.
There are certain world views that are good for your tribe and nation
There are certain world views that destroys tribes and nations
Yours is the kind that destroys. You can be as catty and as stupid as you want but you just might want to listen to people who understand what national and individual survival, prosperity, expansion etc etc is about
Earl has a thing for pop psychology and relationships with your parents and what not.
Ton, which views are those?
I’m sorry I triggered you. I thought this was the red pill.
RPG: “@ gla wasn’t Bullock married to Jesse James, the motorcycle guy?
But I have heard that rumor that many famous people are trans but people don’t realize it.”
Actors and actresses have, since the beginnings of Hollywood (and probably since the beginnings of show business!), been accused of having variable or indeterminate sexuality. Oldest story in the book and not necessarily untrue … in some ways. Just the fact of playing roles makes you connect with fictional members of the opposite sex, strange characters, alien beings in surprisingly deep ways. It changes your brain … many actors would say it opens their minds but that’s a judgement call. We all know getting out of our rut, breaking down old ways of thinking is good … until you end up not knowing which end is up. Then you are just confused.
Of course there are those who, especially in the old days, spent a great deal of time and energy trying to pretend they were something other than they are, outsiders immediately get it when they think of gays and the like, but it goes beyond that. People attracted to entertainment, from Carnies to Movie Stars, tend to be making the most of their liabilities or the things that others don’t accept. Show business has always been the business of outcasts and misfits, those who are attracted to a business where it’s all about being someone else. Notice I didn’t say “pretending,” working at playing roles the way that professionals do goes much deeper than pretending. Sandra Bullock trans? I doubt it. I don’t know her but, if my 2cents count for anything, I’d say that’s utterly bogus.
LOL what a twat.
‘Earl has a thing for pop psychology and relationships with your parents and what not.’
Aren’t you into family and kin?
Nothing wrong with a little pop psychology…I’d like to know how my pop’s mind works.
Roosh is an asshole by even my standards but occassionally he nails it.
Can’t disagree with anything on this list, at least not enough to ever get married if I already wasn’t.
http://www.rooshv.com/6-reasons-why-im-incompatible-with-marriage
1. I need more alone time than a woman can tolerate
2. I don’t permit my woman complete “freedom” because I understand her true nature
3. I don’t like sharing my bed because I’m a light sleeper
4. I’m exceedingly rigid in my daily routine and how I like things done (not ridgid just why bother with compromising if I get nothing to offset it)
5. I don’t want to be with a woman who makes my life more difficult or stressful
(Let me stop you before you say it. No! There is no such unicorn who doesn’t.)
6. I have an abnormally high need for peace and quiet (even just a normal amount of peace and quiet)
Remember how I keep saying women are competing with NOTHING!
This.
Justify an answer for all six and you now get to compete with just all other women instead of all women And NOTHING.
Crickets…..
This is what you compete with.
Every single day even in a thirty year marriage.
Wanna shit test!!??
This list is what goes through his mind Every Fucking Time you shit test!
Do I really need this.
I can have these six things back in an instant if I pull the trigger!!
Stay for tomorrows upcoming shit test?
No man wants to.
Most men have to.
Some men don’t have to.
Beware those who switch camps.
The golden Six List!!
Aka
1 freedom to play as I please
2 not being the responsible one all the time
3 my home to myself
4 run my life for me
5 no extraneous stress
6 peace and quiet
You are competing with This! ALL of you! Every single one of you!
Roosh forgot to mention that because of his reputation and past sleeping his way around the world, the type of woman he wants isn’t going to want him.
Ash agreed. But cant disagee with the list.
On a cheerier note…this is what men do.
I used to pull crickets, toads, chipmonks out of our inground pool. Anything that just keeps swimming deserves a chance.
Shaved? 😜
Just a completely random note on “Making our dreams come true …”
Both Laverne and Shirley, and Happy Days functioned as vague and unofficial spin offs from the feature film American Graffiti, exploiting the same rough era and leading cast members. American Graffiti was one of those occasional odd movies that blessed all it touched most particularly: George Lucas, Harrison Ford, Ron Howard, Richard Dreyfus, and the already modestly successful Francis Coppola. It was also, for a VERY long time, the motion picture with the highest investment to profit ratio in Hollywood history. It was also innovative in countless ways I won’t bore you with.
Culturally, as you can see by looking at the impact of L&S and HD as well as much else, it marked a turning point in our perception of the 1950s that started at Woodstock when Sha-na-na revitalized 1950s era music. Suddenly the ’50s was cool and nostalgic rather than square or even “Noir” (even Rebel Without a Cause was had a lot of Film Noir influences), an era of innocent fun rather than bomb shelters and duck and cover, war, etc. American Graffiti is not all fun and games (and it’s not actually set in the 1950s), but it did open the door wider for a new vision of that era … an era that rapidly became idealized and pretty vague; post war, pre flower power and disconnected from exact history. A mythical time only 20 years or so earlier than the popular culture the enshrined it.
Even in the 1970s were we really tired of the 1960s? Is another wave of chaos activated nostalgia headed our way today?
Alan K, your comments are very interesting!!! I’m sure you’re not “boring” anyone.
There is a new post at Spawny’s
https://spawnyspace.wordpress.com/2018/06/26/combo-shit-test/
Alan K, what you are talking about is 1975 nostalgic for 1960. Now we are living in such a weird time culturally. The classic rock station is playing stuff that is fifty years old. The oldies station is playing stuff that is thirty years old. I think that the problem is that monopoly capitalism controlling the culture industry wants no risk to return on investment. So they just recycle what they think has worked over the past fifty years. Were Baby Boomers forced to listen to stuff from the 1920s? Were Gen Xers forced to listen to stuff from the 1940s?
Alan Kardec – i agree with Stephanie – your comments ARE very interesting and not boring at all. i appreciate the time you take to give us perspective 🙂
RB-MGTOW: “So they just recycle what they think has worked over the past fifty years.”
I often feel that why our world is so screwed up. The culture around us keep trying to apply 50 (or more) year old political movements or theories to modern problems and when they come up short everyone just doubles down and tries harder. We need some new ideas or to carefully revive some of the subtler old ones!
Ame: “i agree with Stephanie – your comments ARE very interesting and not boring at all. i appreciate the time you take to give us perspective”
Thanks, but this isn’t the place for me to geek out about sound design or overlapping story lines. I’ll try to stay on topic … to a certain extent. Cheers!