After finding the manosphere, I have a much deeper understanding (although not perfect) of the male experience. This has led me to be much more aware of how I personally interact with men, as well as how other women do.
Something I have noticed is how many women automatically treat men with suspicion, hostility, or indifference.
I can’t imagine if every time I said hello to someone I was treated like some sort of pervey creepy potential rapist, or like I don’t even exist. Many men (especially non-top-tier men) are treated exactly like that. I see it often. I probably even did this myself before I was aware of it, sadly.
Now I don’t treat guys this way, I don’t assume the worst, I don’t blow them off or ignore them, and I don’t treat them like all they want is to get in my pants. And guess what? Nothing bad has happened!
If you find yourself walking around “with your bitch shield up” as they say in the manosphere, try taking it down a notch. Try assuming the best, not the worst.
Guys really seem relieved and appreciative of being treated like a normal human being rather than like a psycho stalker.
Try it and let us know the results!
My advice would be to not live in the victimhood mindset and see what happens.
Exactly Earl!
I am by no means saying there aren’t ANY men who mean women harm, but that number is truly a very small percentage vs. ALL men are like that.
I think that men and women need to realize that each other are just wired differently, even if it isn’t prim and proper.
Every man probably would think a certain woman is sexy, and would like to be with her. But that doesn’t mean that he is some sort of pervey creepy potential rapist because of it. It also doesn’t mean that he would ever do anything about it.
So women, next time you have a problem with men being attracted to the female form, I suggest you take it up with The Creator.
One of the things that is no help to anyone is the mixed messages that can be unintentionally be sent. I’ve a friend, a modestly attractive woman who complained about being eye-balled by her accountant, a guy she’s completely uninterested in. She had just come from this meeting and I mentioned she was dressed in a manner that revealed a good deal of cleavage. I made the typical, for us, comment that perhaps she should dress differently for the people she didn’t want looking down her blouse. I then asked her how he was supposed to know that she wasn’t dressing that way for him.
Strangely, she got it immediately, and later on even reminded me of this and told me that she had changed her way of fixing herself up based on the circumstances. The odd thing is that it seemed like it had never occurred to her before that moment. It was not that she didn’t realize that she had an effect on men but that she might plan her wardrobe based on what she was going to be up to, and that she could still dress in a very attractive manner without giving guys a target for their “I just can’t stop looking” tendencies. It helped that I told her that I would dress a certain way for certain meetings, basically my “I’m expensive so be ready to pay” clothes. Hearing that a man was doing the same thing he was advising (though for different reasons) seemed to help her understand that everything is communication and that you are communicating with everyone, not just the few you want to be admired in a certain way by.
I fear that sometimes women dress to compete with other women. They are saying: “look what I COULD show a special man.” Then, amusingly, they are unhappy when the average guy on the street enjoys the show.
Alan – very well written and expressed. idk why women still don’t know this as it’s not only something that’s been stated seemingly ad nauseam, but it’s also something feminism rails against being true proclaiming women should be able to wear whatever they want and men should only respond the way that woman wants them to regardless of what they project.
impressed that you stated this to her … and impressed that she was receptive.
So women, next time you have a problem with men being attracted to the female form, I suggest you take it up with The Creator.
it’s not that women have a problem being attractive to men … it’s that they want to choose when and to whom they are attractive regardless of how they dress and behave – and sometimes they want to make that choice after-the-fact.
I will admit at times this new approach has been misinterpreted as interest. My guy explained it as being nice is so rare that a guy may think, “who is this unicorn?” Single ladies: take note!
It is great that Bloom put something up for us. Here is an idea that has been knocking around in my head like a nickle in a coffee can.
What if Margaret Atwood’s book The Handmaid’s Tale is exactly the opposite of how it is presented? I’ve never read the book, nor have I seen the TV show. I only know that it depicts a dystopian future where women are subjugated to a toxic patriarchy. I’ll leave it to others here to educate me on the details.
I have seen Margaret Atwood in the media participating in social justice warrior activity like an anti-Trump rally. She was saying something to the effect that if Trump gets his way the conditions depicted in her book will come to pass.
That is what Margaret Atwood says consciously. But what if her subconscious and the subconscious of the women who like the book is saying the opposite?
Why did the book have to be written? If the author consciously and subconsciously believes that feminism will bring about heaven on earth, they why did she write the book? Why do some women like the book? If feminism is ascendant around the world, and if a joyous new world order is upon us, then why write a book or produce a television series of a story that has no relevance to our present or to our future? If the story is relevant to our past, then why not just write a novel of historical fiction? Wouldn’t we instead need a book that explores the future and how men and women will behave in order to enjoy that future?
What if Margaret Atwood’s subconscious understands that when a society fails to prevent women from doing whatever they FEEL like doing, women generate social conditions that lead to the collapse of that society and the deaths of those same women? Out-of-control hypergamy is creating a situation where the majority of ordinary men have no woman. If an individual man doesn’t have a woman to call his own, that man will lose interest in the success of that society. It reminds me of a song from the late 1970s or early 1980s that starts like this:
Take this job and shove it.
I ain’t work’n here no more.
My woman done left
and took all the reasons
I was working for.
What if Margaret Atwood’s story is not a warning about how to avoid a world that we don’t want but an invitation to a world that we do want? What if Margaret Atwood is saying that women’s survival is going to depend on women ruthlessly repressing their own proclivities? The toxic patriarchy needs to be the policeman inside of their own heads. Maybe that’s why women pay any attention to the story at all. (I’ve never heard that men watch the TV series.)
Isn’t feminism just a global shit test? Women know better than men. Men gave women what they said they wanted. But isn’t it women who desperately ballyhoo for a man who will wash their panties while they even more desperately want a man who won’t wash their panties?
Does the book discuss how society arrived at such a state? It is a post-apocalypse story. But was the apocalypse caused by nuclear war (Planet of the Apes), or was it caused by the exhaustion of crude oil supplies (Road Warrior)? Or was the apocalypse caused be feminism? Is The Handmaid’s Tale an instruction manual to women on how to survive the future that their actions today will bring about?
Ame…”it’s not that women have a problem being attractive to men … it’s that they want to choose when and to whom they are attractive regardless of how they dress and behave – and sometimes they want to make that choice after-the-fact.”
Somebody somewhere said that being a woman is sort of like fishing with a net…while trying to catch fish of one type, you wind up catching a lot of different species, as well.
Roger Blakely, re “The Handmaid’s Tale”
Margaret Atwood lived in Afghanistan for a while, and has stated that the society she saw there provided her with ideas for the society she described in the book. From a standpoint of intellectual honesty, it would have been nice if she had mentioned the connection in a Foreword or Afterword…there was no such mention in the edition of the book that I read.
“…being a woman is sort of like fishing with a net…”
LOL, perfect, my wife would have laughed and agreed with the image ;-D
Ame: “impressed that you stated this to her … and impressed that she was receptive.”
I’m pretty good at dealing with stuff like this, an attitude of “discussing the subject from different angles” rather than just stating what the problem is often seems the trick. My take has always been that women like complexity and gray areas. Guys are often more straight forward than that: “If you covered up your boobs guys wouldn’t stare at them.” Not the way to get anywhere with a woman … if only I could remember that at all times!
Men and women have undergone brain scans while doing language based testing like the English SAT. The logic side on the men’s brains works hard, the emotional side barely flickers. With the women BOTH sides light up, it’s like every word is processed both logically and emotionally or maybe even as if there was a conversation between logic and emotion over the content of each word. Women can FEEL language. Guys need to know that while we just say stuff because we think it’s accurate women are getting twisted around by our words, twisted positively, negatively, twisted in ways that have to do with us and ways that don’t. For a man language is a hallway. For women it is a maze. It’s a maze they love the drama and adventure of navigating, but it’s still a maze.
“If you covered up your boobs guys wouldn’t stare at them.” Not the way to get anywhere with a woman … if only I could remember that at all times!
LOL
With the women BOTH sides light up, it’s like every word is processed both logically and emotionally or maybe even as if there was a conversation between logic and emotion over the content of each word. Women can FEEL language. Guys need to know that while we just say stuff because we think it’s accurate women are getting twisted around by our words, twisted positively, negatively, twisted in ways that have to do with us and ways that don’t. For a man language is a hallway. For women it is a maze. It’s a maze they love the drama and adventure of navigating, but it’s still a maze.
ohhh, so very true. sigh. it would be nice to be able to turn off the emotional side sometimes 🙂 .
Women can FEEL language.
yes … it’s a full-sensory experience 🙂
i’ve found that, especially with important things, i need to set them down and come back to them a second time. often what i experienced the first time is not there the second. this was true of my Aspie-Girl’s 26 page Full Eval we got back a couple weeks ago. my first reading had me very emotional and a bit repelled. my second reading, a week or so later, had me much more objective – a good thing since we were seeing the neuropsychologist who tested her the next day, and i didn’t need to be reactive to something that wasn’t even really there in an important meeting 🙂
many years ago i went to a pool party (all married couples), and a beautiful woman was wearing a bright red bikini top and skort. and she looked at me with a straight face and said, “Everyone’s staring at my boobs!” i was so shocked she would even wonder that they were that i had nothing to say to her. i should have said, “Of course they are! How can they miss them!” but, again … i guess i was a bit naive thinking she would consciously know she intentionally dressed for attention.
Ame: “i’ve found that, especially with important things, i need to set them down and come back to them a second time. often what i experienced the first time is not there the second.”
Men and women are different but only somewhat. Everyone benefits by being able to create a thought (write it down), take a break from it to allow it to become a thing separate from ourselves, and then return to edit or reevaluate it. This is the essence of rewriting. One your idea becomes separate from you and we gain some distance (usually time) we can return to it and have a “conversation” with it almost as if you were discussing the idea with a co-author. The difference between stuff I write the moment after I write it and the stuff I wrote some time ago when I return to it to rewrite it is phenomenal! Steven King argues that you should finish a book, file it away and not return to rewrite it until you have written the first draft of ANOTHER book. I’ve never gone that far but I will say that a bit of distance is worth a thousand words.
Externalizing ideas allows our limited minds to attack them from different angles. Watch children play with toy soldiers or dolls or whatever. It’s all about practicing externalizing ideas.
I suspect that since humans evolved in a FAR less crowded world, we are not really cut out for how much sense we are required to make on such short notice! Hard to imagine that there are something like 7.8 billion people. Around 1960 there was around 3 billion. 2 billion in 1930. 1 billion in 1800. And 200 – 400 million in the time of Christ! I think we are doing very well to keep up with anything at all! Luckily it is supposed to be tapering off but how much have we complicated things with all the instant communications and such?
David: “Margaret Atwood lived in Afghanistan for a while, and has stated that the society she saw there provided her with ideas for the society she described in the book. From a standpoint of intellectual honesty, it would have been nice if she had mentioned the connection in a Foreword or Afterword…there was no such mention in the edition of the book that I read.”
That makes her current political stand even more absurd that I’d imagined.
Sarah Hoyt did a writeup on her opinion of Atwood (it’s really and Atwood vs Heinlein piece, a comparison between Revolt 2100 and HT): https://pjmedia.com/lifestyle/if-this-goes-on-it-still-wont-be-the-handmaids-tale/
“Given all this, it would be a miracle that the left – particularly the feminut left – has attached to this book as a just-so tale for the Trump presidency. If I don’t ever see another landwhale in a red cape it will be too soon.
However, it makes perfect sense. You see, the left has read The Handmaid’s Tale, or at least the CliffsNotes, and has been told by their teachers at school that the book is relevant and a tale for our times.
Being the extreme incurious conformists they are, it stands to reason they grab onto this any time they think their droit du vagina (rule by the magic of having been born with one) is threatened.
(snip)
I know that the left seems to insist on free-for-all everything but that’s just an attempt at hammering functioning society down. Once in power, every leftist regime is sexually repressive to a point that it would make medieval priests cringe.
We’re seeing this horror of sex or even flirting arise in today’s left. Sure, they encourage you to identify as whatever of a million “genders” you wish to, but when push comes to shove, even if you managed to find your counterpart in a system that seems more complicated than million-piece puzzles, if you even try anything, you can find yourself accused of rape, which these days means “I had sex and didn’t like it.” This, despite the constant drumbeat for exotic sexuality that is already creating a chilling effect in the eternal dance between male and female.
Well, honestly, if I were a young male today I’d keep it in my pants unless I was 100 percent sure of the girl. And maybe even then, until she gave me a contract signed in blood consenting to sex.
So, the sexual repression is already setting in.
Liz…The Atwood book and movie have been successful because they play to the fear, contempt, and anger that many educated/urban/upper-middle-class people demonstrate toward Christians and rural people (especially southerners.) This complex of negative emotions often greatly exceeds anything that these same people feel toward radical Islamists or dangerous rogue-state governments.
I wrote about this phenomenon and its causes in my post The Phobia(s) That May Destroy America
https://chicagoboyz.net/archives/32937.html
May women do walk with a shield up out of fear of men. But men aren’t scary. Some would like to think they are but that’s a different discussion for a different day. In reality, most men are the least threatening creatures we can encounter, and they’ll back down when they know you aren’t someone to be trifled with. I haven’t had a problem with a man in in a long time.
Liz:
I suspect that many if not most people on the feminist left aren’t reacting based on a coherent agenda when you see all of this behavior, their issues may come from a number of scattered elements. Let me see if I can make sense of what I’m thinking —
1) There is still a “turn of the 21st century” era terror of Christians forcing their conventions, beliefs, laws, whatever on a secular population. I think the upsurge of Christian elements in politics and political movements scared a lot of people both because it was powerful and because they didn’t see it coming. The generation most scared by this has taught the current generation of young people. To the leftists credit, this movement has been underplayed in recent years with many conveniently forgetting that they weren’t particularly “live and let live.” Some of the fear came because the movement had power that came from outside the realm of politics. the left may make a religion of politics but it seemed to feel an extra threat from the combination of religion and politics.
2) All the “rules” suddenly bursting forth from the once-anarchistic left are being manipulated in their favor but I actually think it’s a healthy (but unconscious) reaction to the obsession for openness, breaking taboos, and letting down barriers that they had in the second half of the 20th century. All of that went too far and even the people who started it, psychologists, have realized their mistake. The constant refrain in psychology today is “maintaining healthy boundaries” … a concept that got some traction 20 years or so ago then was weakened by the increase of female psychologists since then. The ladies are advocating again for more “openness” but they are not as serious about it as the earlier wave of openness-idiots and so the trend is continuing to wane.
At the same time new things to be open about are showing up (like LGBTQ) and carry some of the early revolutionary fervor. I suspect that this will peak and then moderate as the damage they are doing to young people who are simply confused rather than committed to alternative sexuality becomes more obvious. think of “excessive openness” as a series of waves roughly starting after WWI and then peaking and subsiding at different times. Hysteria about going too far, ie. the left’s issue with consent, isn’t a return to Victorianism but it is an indicator that the peak has passed and people (even the craziest people) are beginning to unconsciously moderate their views. Sadly, this will probably take 30 years!
3) From Wikipedia: Body horror, biological horror, organic horror or venereal horror is horror fiction in which the horror is principally derived from the graphic destruction or degeneration of the body. Such works may deal with disease, decay, parasitism, mutilation, or mutation.
I would add a fear of uncontrollable physical change, in this case including pregnancy and aging.
So, there really seems to be an element of “body horror” hiding in the need to retain abortions at any time. It’s sort of like women are afraid of not being to get a cure to a disease. As if they have been “infected” by a man and now they demand a surgery as if for cancer. Of course when sex comes from a drunken hook up with a guy who turns out to be disappointing in the light of day it’s all that much more of a “horror.” This was a HIGHLY unlikely attitude to have when men and women were bound in well considered marriage before god and children were thought of a blessing. These days, however … well, here’s something I just saw: A commercial for an anti pregnancy implant. Pictures of beautiful young women displaying strong and defiant attitudes based on the fact that they now have this product. It seemed to say: “I’m independent, no man is going to infect me …er, make me pregnant with his squalling brat and ruin my life, steal my youth and looks, compromise my ability to both earn and spend the way I want.”
The place where this reflects on the current craziness surrounding “Handmaidens,” is that abortion on demand has been great for an incredible number of men. Not being bound to an equally disappointing woman who you regret having sex with is a gift from modern medical science. Not having to be smart enough, or sober enough, to use (or verify) some sort of birth control makes a Plan B an appreciated option.
All this, and this is where things get weird with the feminists, really means a guy should stay sober and not sleep with anyone he doesn’t take seriously. The current flailing of feminist attitudes is an attempt to have their drunken hook up cake and eat it too BUT a great deal of this is being worked out slowly, randomly and without a plan by all of us. We are edging, semi consciously, toward new attitudes and solutions and everything has to work its way painfully through the process.
The process of doing away with conventional marriage and parenting is not complete until a whole new set of actually useful conventions has been created. The Victorians created a frenzy of stricture and discipline, we are working our way though a maze of anarchism and hedonism. I think what we are noticing is that we are passing the high point and headed on to a new normal.
OT: Just because I have time to do this at the moment. A break from the seriousness of Alan’s post. A line from the article at Liz’s link upthread:
in science fiction, we might concede one or two impossible things (faster than light, artificial gravity)
Triggers these thoughts / questions:
1. Assume you are sitting in the bed of a pickup truck, facing backward, not forward. Assume you are holding a rifle. When fired, the bullet leaves the barrel of the rifle at 200 mph.
a. Pickup sitting still, not moving. You, in the bed of the truck and facing backward, fire the rifle. Bullet leaves the barrel of the gun and travels the normal distance consistent with such firing before it strikes the ground.
b. Pickup traveling forward at 200 mph. You, in the bed of the truck and facing backward, fire the rifle. Does the bullet even leave the barrel of the gun? (Bullet leaves the barrel of the gun at 200 mph, but the barrel of the gun is moving backward at 200 mph. If the bullet does leave the barrel, does it just fall to the ground at the spot where the rifle was fired?)
c. Pickup traveling forward at 200 mph. You, in the bed of the truck and facing FORWARD – the same direction in which the pickup is traveling – fire the rifle from over the top of the cab. How fast is the bullet travelling when it leaves the barrel of the rifle.
Well – you immediately ask – “how fast”.in reference to what? The pickup truck? The ground? (If you can make sense of that question, that means you understand Eienstein’s Theory of Relativity.) All wrapped up in two little, very important, words: it depends.)
Exactly. Some “facts” are entirely useless unless you first state what they are in reference to. This is good / bad, moral / immoral, useful / not useful, I’m travelling at 200 mph – are all useless words unless / until they are tied to a standard or reference point. Kinda like “men and women are equal” is a useless grouping of words until it is modified by a prepositional clause: equal in terms of X, equally deserving of X, etc.
2. There has been a story in the news recently about a cigar-shaped asteroid passing close to the earth. Imagine a cigar-shaped spacecraft, hollow, and three blocks long. You are on the inside, at the back of the spacecraft, holding a very powerful flashlight. At the front of the spacecraft, on the inside, is a large screen. You point your powerful flashlight forward at the screen three blocks away (inside the spacecraft) and turn it on.
(if it is easier to envision, use a powerful squirtgun shooting a stream of water rather than a flashlight shooting a stream of light in the following situations)
a. When you do this with the spacecraft sitting on the ground, what is the speed of the light coming out the flashlight.
b. Assume the spacecraft is now in space, traveling as close to the speed of light as it can get. What is the speed of the light coming out the flashlight when you point it at the screen three blocks in front of you and turn it on?
c. Assume there is a porthole/ plexiglass bubble above you where you can poke your torso out of the shell of the spacecraft. You do this and point your flashlight forward to the nose of the spacecrate three blocks in front of you – the nose of a spacecraft that is travelling at almost the speed of light. When you turn on your flashlight, how quickly does that light leave the flashlight? Strike the front of the spacecraft?
— In considering this Point 2(c), think of a fly inside of the spacecraft. Is it any more difficult for the fly to travel from the back to the front inside of the aircraft when it is hurtling through space at close to the speed of light than it would be to do the same thing while the spacecraft is sitting still on the ground? If a fly could be sitting on your flashlight while the spacecraft is hurtling through space, and take off and fly to the front end of the spacecraft with little effort, wouldn’t that also be true of the light coming out of your flashlight? In terms of the time it takes the light to come out of the flashlight and strike the front of the spacecraft – inside of the spacecraft, would we get a different result if we were outside of the spacecraft – in the plexiglass bubble, and shined the flaghlight on the front of the spacecraft?
d. Can light travel faster than the speed of light (re. the quote from Liz’s link)? Spacecraft travelling ~ speed of light + light shining forward out of flashlight at the speed of light = what?
It depends. Well, know it doesn’t. The answer exists. We just don’t know what it is. And we won’t until we can acurately define what light actually is and how it propogates itself. As far as I know, we are still not obsolutely certain of the answer to either of those. Just like we aren’t absolutely certain about the answers to a lot of things, even though we often pretend that we are.
Point 2 is not supposed to be in italics.
“I haven’t had a problem with a man in in a long time.”
well that is because you are – and act like – an adult, and don’t screw with men’s minds, and send them mixed signals. you are self aware, and don’t pretend like you don’t understand.
some of the others – like the one in the bikini that Ame mentioned, are either just completely unaware, or get some inner joy out of teasing guys.
you neglected to include what direction the bullet is being fired, in relation to the rotation of the earth (about 1,000 mph), or the rotation of the earth around the sun, which is about 67,000 mph.
‘a beautiful woman was wearing a bright red bikini top and skort. and she looked at me with a straight face and said, “Everyone’s staring at my boobs!”
Of course she was aware of it…otherwise why did she say it? Could you imagine a guy having his balls out and lamenting ‘why is everybody staring at my balls’? He’d be told he’s an idiot.
I think women act naive as another way of plausible deniability for their immoral or at the very least attention grabbing actions. Nobody should buy it anymore…they have agency. If you want to dress immodest and flaunt your milk duds out there for the world to see…the world is going to stare at them.
It’s kind of funny to people watch….women basically exposing their breasts bouncing around the grocery store with resting bitch face. LOL
“Lookit me! Lookit me! You bastards better not look at me!”
Have to wonder where they are in life to be in that particular mode of crazy.
😆
Heh, Richard I can’t remember my physics exactly, but I’m pretty sure the gun will leave the barrel and truck (since the speed of the bullet is respective to the truck, just like the earth’s rotation (FML noted). After it leaves the truck not so sure….have to ask my oldest son, he’s the physics guy.
Probably because when men look at them wimminz are reminded of their gender roles. Wimminz breasts are because of the ebil pattycracky and they must show off how oppressed they are.
Yesterday’s jokes are today’s realities.
Got the bullet answer.
From the perspective of a person standing on the side of the road, the bullet falls straight down.
Apparently this was on a myth busters episode as well. Pretty interesting!
Some of the other items you need to take in to consideration, are the ballistic coefficient of the projectile, as well as the air density, relative wind direction & speed, as well as whether the truck and the angle of aim are level or at an incline/decline. Bullets do not travel at a fixed speed throughout their flight path.
Tru dat
Well – I had the shooter on a truck because he couldn’t fly. But the total distance would be the distance that the bullet would travel before gravity would pull the bullet to the ground. Relatively speaking, that distance is not very far, so the rotation speed of the earth has little to no bearing on this issue. And I was using that just to set the stage for the speed of light thing.
Change of subject: Daughter has just discovered the Staple Singers (I’ll Take You There, etc from early 1970s). What she has discovered is their old gosple stuff (1950s) that influenced, by their own admission, the likes of Bob Dillon and Janis Joplin. Discovered – by way of Hozier (who she has known) and Mavis (who she has not known).
Anybody who knows singing just for the sheer joy of singing will probably relate to this video. As will those who like the eye candy that Robert Palmer provided in his videos. There’s a nod to that here also. This is a littleinspiration for Ame. Just published this October.
t’s not the waking, it’s the rising
It’s not the song, it is the singing
It’s the hearing of a human spirit ringing
It is the bringing of the line
It is the baring of the rhyme
It’s not the waking, it’s the rising
About the light thing.
Assume a sun and a plant stand back to back in space, motionless. Then there is a huge explosion and the sun and planet are hurled in exactly opposite directions – the sun at half the speed of light and the planet and slightly more than half the speed of light. If you land on that planet a day after the explosion and face the direction of the subject sun, you will never see it’s light. You will never know it is there, even though it is, because the planet you are on and that sun are hurtling away from each other at faster than the speed of light. Therefore, that sun’s light cannot ever reach you on that planet.
Now, suppose God says, “let there be light” and slows down the speed of the planet to only a quarter of the speed of light. There is suddenly going to be a sun (really, a star by this point) where there was none before. Well … it was actually there. You just couldn’t see it because it’s light couldn’t reach you. The light existed, it just never struck your retina until your planet speed was slowed down. How many million light years away from us are most of our stars??? That means the light you see tonight left the star a million years ago. We have zero idea of what the constellations look like right now, and yet we talk about them as though we do. Every star more than 10 light years away from us could have been destroyed yesterday and no longer exist. And we wouldn’t know that for at least a minimum of 10 years – the time it will take for the light from the explosion of the stars 10 light years away to reach us.
Change that example above to the planet stands still while the sun is blasted away from the planet at the speed of light (kind of like shooting the rifle from the truck going 200 mph, the same speed as the bullet when it is fired. Except, in this case, the sun keeps shooting light rays. But the concept is the same. The emitted light just sits there where it is emitted. As the sun moves away from the planet, the rays it “drops” just sit where they are dropped. They do not travel back to the planet because they cannot move faster than the speed of light – the speed at which the sun is moving away from the planet.
But if the sun slows down to a speed slower than the speed of light, or if the planet starts following the sun so that the “relative” speed between the sun and the planet is less than the speed of light, then the light from the sun will eventually strike the planet. Or, rather, the planet will run into the light that the sun dropped. Just like, if you were following that truck moving at 200 miles an hour, you would end up running into the bullet that was fired if you cross the starting line before the bullet hits the ground.
God didn’t need to turn on the suns in Genesis. He could have just changed the speed at which suns and planets were moving, relative to each other. And suddenly, light that already existed would become visible where it was not visible before.
Something to think about while listening to Hozier. Or if you have trouble getting to sleep. Can’t be raggin’ on women all of the time.
“Be Good to Men”
really … we should be good to people; be kind but discerning. and treat men and boys with respect.
Here’s some advice for the ladies out there who are experiencing these reactions from men …
Stop treating men like they’re co-workers.
Cease this useless game of pretence where you behave as if you are one step away from reporting them to management (aka the police).
Especially stop treating these men like you’re their supervisor.
Not only is all of this very unattractive, but also it sends a clear message: any woman behaving this way isn’t worth bothering to get to know because she’s just another bitch in the office trying to get one-up.
And that’s why these men avoid, ignore, and otherwise couldn’t give a toss about women who behave like that.
Liz, sometimes you can’t win, and that’s because you can’t control who gets turned on by something and who doesn’t, even when you’re not even trying to turn on anyone.
An example: I was walking through a certain city in Wales on a summer’s day in clothes that would befit a man who’s just come out of an office, and I heard a group of women behind me openly discussing my back side.
Right, well, that’s lovely, so I turned a corner at random … and they’re following me and my back side.
I wasn’t even trying to do anything to attract these women.
I was seeing someone in the Cotswolds at the time.
This wasn’t interesting to me at all, especially since I caught a glance at one of them and thought that someone had lost one of the horses at that year’s Aintree.
Well, they couldn’t follow me into the loo, could they?
They didn’t, which was a relief.
So the chick with a nice rack who doesn’t like being ogled by guys who are not at all what she thinks is attractive?
I can relate, I really, really can.
And so can my backside. 🙂
“really … we should be good to people; be kind but discerning. and treat men and boys with respect.”
Kid, I truly love your attitude. Have you managed the “magic” soup?
The gobblers are now taking the Bosc pears for their school lunches, the Sweetie cannot handle the normal fruit pesticides so commercial fruit is a problem. Nobody noticed it when we were babysitting because everything was organic. My wife was green before it was discovered, I suspect her grampa was green ;-D
BG – thank you 🙂
no to the soup … yet 🙂
my nutritionist has me on a very narrow, restrictive diet. there are different phases to it, but right now i’m in the most limited phase and cannot eat meat. eventually i’ll add that back in. will then have to make some adjustments to the basic recipe but look forward to trying it when i can 🙂
feel good story of the day:
Kindergarten students at Hickerson Elementary School in Tullahoma, Tennessee had the sweetest surprise for a deaf custodian this week.
Mr. James, who has worked at the middle Tennessee school for 15 years, turned 60 on Tuesday. To celebrate, the school’s two kindergarten classes joined forces to sign the “Happy Birthday” song to the beloved janitor.
pull up the link to watch the short video of the kids signing for the custodian – SOOO SWEET!!!
https://www.southernliving.com/news/hickerson-elementary-school-happy-birthday-mr-james?utm_campaign=southernliving_southernliving&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=social&utm_term=A00DB744-D87A-11E8-BCE6-79C64F017A06&fbclid=IwAR0J_pFLpz_JuaFw9aJRd2M0Pc4cxX1tHC4vTa6_XPeB7pmfY5w9kb3BF2s
Ame
That’s a tough diet, especially during the winter months. Hang in there Kid.
yes, it is 🙂
but i worked myself down to it slowly – actually, my body demanded i do it slowly. i’m on a no-no diet! lol! no grains, no gluten, no sugar, no dairy, no meat, no poultry, no eggs, no fish! lol! but … it’s temporary … and i’d rather heal my body naturally than chemically if at all possible 🙂
“This wasn’t interesting to me at all, especially since I caught a glance at one of them and thought that someone had lost one of the horses at that year’s Aintree.”
LOL 😆
“So the chick with a nice rack who doesn’t like being ogled by guys who are not at all what she thinks is attractive? I can relate, I really, really can.
And so can my backside.”
Well, form the sound of things we’re not comparing apples to apples (or…er melons…or chestnuts *cough* or whatnot).
I’m kind of speaking of women wearing really revealing things…the equivalent might be a pair of assless chaps for you. LOL 😆
I mean, it’s a little comical.
A serious dour expression with boobs on display like they’re supposed to be jumping out of a bachelor’s cake but they just happened to stop at the grocery store and forgot their daywear.
Good Lord that’s rough, Ame. 😦
Good luck! Hope you recovery swiftly.
((hugs))
but they just happened to stop at the grocery store and forgot their daywear.
LOL!
thanks, Liz! i’m doing pretty well with it all … not complaining toooo much 😉
overall, i am feeling better. idk how my labs will come out next time, but i am feeling better. still a long ways from full energy, but i’m moving in the right direction. this nutritionist has a LOT of success with what she does, so i’m hopeful.
after another week i’ll be able to start adding in food groups slowly – haven’t looked at that yet … don’t want to drool too much when i can’t do anything about it 🙂
oh, no nuts, no legumes.
but i can have raw sunflower seeds and raw pumpkin seeds and quinoa and real butter! 🙂
actually, the worst part is that i have to use two different powdered nutritional supplement things and mix them into shakes with only fruits and/or veg’s and water … without any sweetener or cream … and they taste nasty. i’m choking those down. but … it’s for my kids!
Having no assumptions about men either way would be a good start. However, my belief is that the powers that be want men and women to distrust and fear one another. They certainly seem to be getting their way….
There is a new post at Spawny’s
https://spawnyspace.wordpress.com/2018/10/28/happy-wife-happy-life/
The gender war is over.
There were some interesting developments in the black monosphere on Youtube last week. Black Gnostic Speaks – Introspective Black Men Of Reform (BGS-IBMOR) has been saying for months that the gender war is over that black men need to stop fighting. Black women are suing for peace, and they are arriving at the negotiating table. “Bullshit!” was the cry from Mumia Obsidian Ali and Fresno State Professor T. Hassan Johnson. “Women will give up their gender war.”
Black Gnostic Speaks (who also lives in Los Angeles) has been saying that black women are not as stupid and not as stubborn as you think they are. On Thursday Black Gnostic Speaks posted a video reporting that Dr. T. Hassan Johnson called him the telephone to announce that he is softening his position on the issue. Dr. Johnson reports that in the past month each of he and his two sons have received unsolicited calls from half a dozen ex-girlfriends trying to get back with them. In fact, all men are reporting that they are getting more attention from women than ever before.
Some switch in the Borg female hive mind has flipped. Women are feeling vulnerable. They understand that socioeconomic conditions are deteriorating. Women are in a game of musical chairs, and there are not enough men to go around with the wherewithal to provide for them and to protect them. Women understand that they need to find a man now before the music stops. So they are going through the quarterback checkdown. They are starting with the men with the highest socioeconomic status and working their way down until they find an available man.
Obsidian responded appropriately by announcing the topic of that night’s discussion as Fair Contract Plus Terms of Surrender. So it is time to discuss what the new social contract between men and women will be. What will be the terms of surrender? At the moment women are demanding that men humble themselves and meet women half way. Uh, no.
The insight that Black Gnostic Speaks raised is that we are going to have to socialize women completely differently than how they have been socialized up until now. My opinion is that all women and girls socialized in this misandristic culture are toxic waste. I’ll never deal with a woman again. And these are black women who are capitulating. It is going to be a long time before we see white women capitulating.
Nah, some of them avoid infection and others repent their foolish anger:
A new post at Spawny’s there is
https://spawnyspace.wordpress.com/2018/10/30/young-men-reevaluate/
There is a new post at Spawny’s
https://spawnyspace.wordpress.com/2018/11/01/doing-it-all-wrong/
was at my local whole foods grocery today. while waiting in the bakery dept for them to slice a couple loaves of sourdough bread, i turned around. a man about four feet from me, on the other side of a display, took two samples out of one of their sample trays and offered me one.
Me: “No thank you. I can’t eat it.”
Him: “Mmmm, this is good.”
Me: “What is it?”
Him: “Strawberry shortcake. It’s really good!” He walked over next to me.
Me: “No, I can’t eat it. My doctor has me on a very restrictive diet.”
Him: “Good for you. I’m a doctor, and it’s good to know you’re following doctor’s orders.
we chatted for a few more minutes and went our separate ways.
it was interesting b/c he was about my age, give or take (hard to tell sometimes, and i look younger than i am), and he was very handsome. as i’ve said before, i’m way past the wall and have no illusions about that, but i still have a pretty face, great hair, and an engaging smile. i was dressed in ‘mom clothes’ today as i was out and about, nothing special.
but i guess i didn’t look angry … or mean … or defensive … or weird. i smiled when he talked to me. i was kind. it was a nice conversation. i’m sure somewhere in there he saw my wedding ring.
and he got a double sample of strawberry shortcake that apparently was very yummy 🙂
Three. Don’t you have strawberry hair? And a pleasant demeanor? And a lovely smile?
i have naturally curly hair, and on good weather days, like we had today, it looks really awesome. i have natural strawberry highlights. i have only colored my hair once – when i turned 40 just because. i hated it. the gray is starting to show a bit more, now, and i wonder how long i have. sigh. i know … 53 and still very little gray. i’m lucky. it’s still not easy, though! i had initially thought i would definitely color the gray out, but i’m not sure anymore. i saw a beautiful woman last week who is probably about my age or younger and has the most beautiful gray hair. we’ll see. coloring is expensive if done well, and i’m pretty obsessive about my hair – cheap color won’t cut it for me. so it will be natural gray or expensive color 🙂 … i’m guessing i’ll go with natural gray and accept that i am actually getting older after all 😉
I was just making the point that he got a triple (not double) sample of strawberry shortcake that apparently was very yummy. You were the third – strawberry hair, pleasant demeanor, and a lovely smile.
Not sure if you got that from my first comment.
Hope you are feeling better.
LOL, I don’t have to worry about that, all of my hair is now snow white. People often think I look like Santa Claus because I deliberately grow my hair and beard longer as we near Christmas.
lol! ummm … that went right over my head the first time 🙂
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thanks for asking. one day at a time. it’s a rather rough road, but i’m trusting my docs and the process 🙂
my husband turned gray around 30, i think (i didn’t know him then, but he was young). he likes being married to a woman who looks a lot younger than he 😉
my mom and both sisters turned gray around 20 years old, so i’m SO grateful i didn’t get those genes when it comes to hair color!
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i bet you enjoy all the children thinking you’re santa 🙂
and thank you for the compliment 🙂
Well, you have to enjoy them while they still believe. Last year two little kids were in their mother’s grocery cart, the little boy whispered, “It’s him, it’s him, I saw him and he has his list!” His shyer little sister peeked out by him with huge eyes. The mother laughed and said that she suspected that her kids were going to be good for a couple of weeks at least ;-D
oh.my.gawash! that’s the sweetest story! i love that!!! 🙂 🙂 🙂
In fact, all men are reporting that they are getting more attention from women than ever before.
…….
That always occurs in the fall. There is even a term for it… one I can’t recall at the moment
A man who isn’t scary ain’t much of a man
LOL, well there isn’t any neoteny in us, and our gravelly baritone and bass voice isn’t gentle, but maybe that roughness is what makes us attractive ;-D
Ame
Yeah, you only have them for four maybe five years, it’s like early crocuses in the Spring. You truly miss them when they are gone.
First I want to say that in the ManoSphere, there is a lot of anger and resentment, because the mess we have today has been boiling inside a pressure cooker for a long time. Men who have been unfairly divorced, falsely accused of crimes by women, demonized, mocked, had their children taken away for no reason other than revenge, among other things is finally erupting online. But there is a very large segment of the ManoSphere that seeks to improve the current situation with the decline of marriage, the need for a new social contract between men and women, and so forth.
I always appreciate when a woman takes the time to read and trying to understand the male experience. If more men and women tried to understand each other’s points of view, we would have much better “gender relations” in America and across the world.
As a widower after 12 wonderful years married (no kids), I became single suddenly and involuntarily at age 35. Because I stayed in great physical shape throughout and because I am a solid 8 in appearance, I have never had the vicious nuke-rejections so many guys who are below a 6 experience. Yes, all men face rejection and I have had my share, of course, but I have been grateful never to have been treated the way I have seen many other guys be rejected un-necessarily brutally. I have seen some absolutely un-necessary rejections by women towards “lesser men” that made me cringe.
This “nuclear-rejection” as a common response to men approaching women (“flirting”, as we used to call it) is a fairly new problem, just as the toxic Hook-Up Culture and other “lovely” things like Ghosting, Mosting, and #MeToo hysterias. I am not that old, coming up on 37 in 2019, and when I was in high school in “flyover America” / “Middle America” (the whole country between the coastal elites in NYC and Malibu), the girls would treat the guys with respect when they turned them down. You would often see the girl smile a little and say “oh I am sorry, I have a boyfriend” or “I am sorry but I am so busy with school now, I cannot start a relationship right now, but you seem like a nice guy… do you want to meet my friend Jen?”. They were NICE about it because they understood that it was a compliment to be approached and asked out on a date was a good thing! Duh! 🙄
Today, the culture has taken a turn to the nasty. Think about the role models for young girls (Lady GaGa, Miley Cyrus, Kim Kardashin, etc). Think of what young girls see on TV, hear on music, and are taught in schools. Western girls today have been “raised to feral” by modern parents…. They are not taught right and wrong or any limits. Their sense of entitlement goes beyond anything anyone could ever have predicted, even during the Boomer’s coming of age (and they are considered the most selfish generation America has ever produced, until the Millennials).
One thing that so many of our Western women today seem to have completely forgotten about is empathy. The men, in response, are becoming more and more hostile towards women, even if that trend is developing slowly, it has become visible. Neither side has any empathy for the other. Chivalry is dead and most young women will never even know what that is. Watch the door as it swings and smacks you on the face. 😮
Imagine 10 or 20 years ago and a man saw a woman be punched in the face and be knocked down on the sidewalk by a stranger. How many guys would rush up and put a stop to it? Many would.
https://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=5ntJZikRaeI
Today, the guys approach and take selfies. No one bothers or cares. Men have grown cold towards women. The men are either suspicious or indifferent. This is clearly a concerning trend.
One thing is for sure: the “1950s” style of dating we experienced when I was in high school a good 18 years ago is gone forever. The men are reacting more and more angrily to feminism and the demonization of men by withdrawing from dating/courtship completely. The ease of Tinder and the “de-regulation of the sexual marketplace” have made women cheap and easily accessible with no commitment. So for a guy to spend his whole day prepping his car, clothes, and planning and booking a fun evening with a girl (that is what we called “a date”) are gone. It is now quick hook-ups on Tinder, when the guys are not busy on the xBox gaming online.
Most guys today are either going MGTOW completely or are becoming jackals seeking to game women for quick sexual gratification with no intent of further communication or relationship. So many guys, after years of being put down and feeling used, have learned that while men have been playing by the “old dating rules” of the 1950s, Feminists have introduced the hook-up culture to young women. One side is playing checkers while the other is playing 3-D chess. But these days are quickly coming to a close, as young men have learned to play the game on Tinder and encourage young women to further the toxic “hook up culture”.
It is almost as if radical Western Feminism has made men and women become un-natural enemies of each other, only seeking each other for self-gratification sexually or to trick men into a “drive by marriage” for the purpose of a quick divorce for his money and assets, or to force a man to pay child support. A very disturbing trend for sure.
This female author wrote about this topic extensively in The Federalist and I highly recommend for further reading:
https://thefederalist.com/2017/12/13/metoo-movement-destroying-trust-men-women/
The Left’s ultimate goal, be it through globalization and the destruction of the middle class or the socially-engineered hatred between the genders through feminism, is that we have a society that is easy to control and repress.
Unless we restore the basics of human interaction between men and women, where we show compassion, understanding, and a desire to develop intimate relationships with each other (instead of quick hook-ups), we are in for a world of hurt on both sides.
@ hridtiancool thanks for commenting, agreed! Sorry your post got hung up in the spam filter. It should show up now. Welcome!
Women have no interest in being good to men. Their mothers raised them to demand incredible efforts from their men just to allow them into their lives, then they take control of all of his assets and his activities. He ends up without a life.