The other day I happened to have a rare half hour of free time and be near a national historic site all dolled up for Christmas, so naturally I popped in to get some holiday cheer.
The tour guide, a retiree aged gal, was happy to tell me all about the place.
Maybe 10 minutes in, a dad and two teens came in. They naturally folded into my not scheduled tour.
The house we were touring has been home to many four and even five star generals in its day.
At one point, the tour guide started to explain how a certain room had once been limited to men over the age of 18.
Then the uncomfortable moment occurred — the two teens were most likely female genetically but expressing as males. (Not that I asked, just a best guess and 40+ years of experience.)
The nervous tour guide focused on the age vs gender limit, but I could tell she was struggling with the proper pronouns.
i thought, why on earth would anyone (these teen possibly genetically girls, for example) decide to identify as white males? Did they not know this is now the one and only demographic it is totally OK to discriminate against?
And if white males are so terrible, why would anyone choose to identify as such? If they did not have to?
And maybe they just unfortunately were born genetically female but identified as white males despite the current disadvantage.
Anyway we all survived the tour. But I did wonder these things. Not that it matters really.
What do you think?Please share in the comments!
(P.s. I recently read of a study that showed in the 1960s in mice that the birth control pill created marked statistically significant gender confusion in the third generation (grandchildren of females who took the pill) but that the data was suppressed. And we are here now in human generations. Would maybe explain the otherwise inexplainable? I dunno.. discuss… )
‘I recently read of a study that showed in the 1960s in mice that the birth control pill created marked statistically significant gender confusion in the third generation (grandchildren of females who took the pill) but that the data was suppressed. And we are here now in human generations. Would maybe explain the otherwise inexplainable? I dunno.. discuss… ‘
There was a lot about the pill that was suppressed. Long story short it is a big plank that needs to be taken out in the battle of the sexes. Physically, mentally, emotionally, and spiritually it has stunted both men and women.
Not sure if you are aware of the papal document ‘Humanae Vitae’ by Pope Paul VI…basically it was the prediction of what would happen with widespread use of the pill in the moral side of things which have all come true.
Sure feminism was bubbling before the pill appeared on the scene…but it was the gas to that fire.
Sadly I took the pill (at my “go-girl!” Mom’s insistence, even though I didn’t need to initially bc I wasn’t sexually active, and later during the first decade of marriage bc “delay kids” was the message), not knowing. Will my grandkids and generations after be affected? I hope not! Had I known it was possible, vs. the “harmless, only upside” message I was sold, would I have taken the risk?
“Proper pronouns”
For shame, falling in line with the insanity.
My hope is when the boomers die out…their backwards ethos of the sexual revolution and the only option women have is career will as well.
Since they love to say ‘don’t take us back to the 50s’…I’d start retorting…’we don’t want to be taken back to the 70s’.
After reading that bit about the mice, I can’t get the image of Alex Jones out of my head saying, “It’s making the frogs turn gay!” He’s not crazy and neither are you. There are a lot of problems with hormonal birth control. Japan held back introduction until 2000. I think it was because they had little faith in the FDA’s approval.
The FDA is fast losing credibility as a reliable check on the health hazards of ingested chemicals.
The pill isn’t right for everyone but I’ve been on it for several years with positive reviews from me.
Not confused about my gender.
Ash,
Duh, you are not your grandchildren either.
I’ve known a lot of people who were on the pill and didn’t think it was adversely effecting them…until they got off of it. Then they realized they were at a low level of depression the entire time, which magically lifted. Might impact the way you view your mate, too. Mentioned it a while back, but Mike and I got engaged when I was off the pill. Everything about him was wonderful to me. I got on the pill for our honeymoon and suddenly everything he did made me angry. Really ruined our honeymoon and first couple of months of marriage. He eventually threw them in the trash and announced since we “weren’t having sex anyway we didn’t need them”. After that things went back to normal.
Of Mice And Men, The Calhoun Mousetopia Experiment:
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RPG: I think that all of us would have more peace of mind if we could convince ourselves that Alice-the-nurse-working-as-an-escort was desperate to pay for her drug habit. I have a couple of things to say about that. Addition is far more subtle than heroine needles. The spiritual malady of addiction is powerful enough to make a nurse turn to prostitution without any high-cost drug addiction being present. But this isn’t what I’m getting at, and this isn’t what is disturbing us. I am arguing that Alice-the-nurse-working-as-an-escort is expressing normal “healthy” female sexuality. We need to come to terms with the darkness that is normal “healthy” female sexuality–the survival of our civilization depends on us facing it.
‘The pill isn’t right for everyone but I’ve been on it for several years….’
That’s a very unsurprising reveal.
Ooo, look. It turns out that Dec. 17 is International Day to End Violence Against Sex Workers.
Please. I’m sure that if you ask providers around here they would tell you that their customers are so simp-ish that the providers find them sexually unattractive. I, for one, simp out on my providers. Since they have to have sex with me anyway, I treat them like queens. Grocery shopping for them the night before is part of the pleasure I get. Oh, and of course, I get my providers off (usually to their chagrin).
Any woman around here who wants to be a provider has total control over the situation. She can completely screen her customers. They are already pre-vetted through the system anyway. Like I said yesterday, ladies, I promise that nothing bad will ever happen to you.
@Roger said: Like I said yesterday, ladies, I promise that nothing bad will ever happen to you.
Spoken with tongue planted firmly in cheek, I presume.
@RichardP: I just finished telling y’all that there is no threat of physical danger. There is, however, the very real threat of permanent inability to pair bond with a good man.
Some guys hold to the notion that sex is nowhere near as good if you are paying a woman. Here is what happens: Women get addicted to the sex, the validation, and the money. It gets to the point where providers can never enjoy sex again unless they are getting paid for it. Sounds bad. But if you give her what she wants, be it $200, $300, or $400, that vagina gets WET.
Red Umbrella Day
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Day_to_End_Violence_Against_Sex_Workers
Jack,
I think they rushed to market with the pill not caring about long term consequences. In the beginning, it was a very dangerous product.
Roger,
“Alice” is very much a glimpse into the darkness of women’s sexuality. They really want to live independent of men and, they don’t care how much damage they do to society while doing it.
Why do you say that, Earl?
@FML; REd Umbrella day? That sounds like something from Resident Evil and Umbrella Corp.
@fuzziewuzziebear: Thank you. That’s the point that I am trying to make. Alice is a feature, not a bug. Alice is not an aberrant data point to be disregarded. Alice is representative of all women. If you take away society’s sanction against female promiscuity and hypergamy run amok, what you get is a society of Alices. All they end up doing is self-destructing.
‘Why do you say that, Earl?’
I gathered it from your blog and comments.
You don’t need to sacrifice your fertility.
Roger,
I gave Alice a lot of thought yesterday. In trying to maintain independence, no man will be good enough. She will eventually come to reject him through fault finding. He could be the alphaest alpha who ever alphaed. Still not good enough.
The best chronology of the modern relationship I have ever seen.
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@Roger: You were speaking of your provider. There are several different kinds of cheeks into which a tongue can be planted. Re-read my comment with that in mind.
@ roger I am not so sure. I easily could have made the choices Alice has, but I have no desire to. Even for all the money in the world. To have sex with strangers, even very nice respectful ones, just isn’t appealing to me. But then I never understood the appeal of one night stands or hook ups either. While many women do so, I don’t think it’s in women’s bio make up to “fuck like guys.” Without birth control and fail that abortion, it would just simply be way too biologically risky for women to be be promiscuous. Wo those, Alice would soon be pregnant with no clue who dad was much less any support from him. That’s why it messes up women’s heads, it’s not natural. I would argue it’s very unnatural for women to engage in no strings (except in Alices case by the hour) sex. $400 doesn’t even come close to compensating for the risk of pregnancy, incapacity, and then the 18 years of raising a child solo as a social outcast. It’s only the ability to prevent or end pregnancy at will that allows women to behave that way. Respectfully. Alice may be making bank now, but as horseman has said many times she’s trading a few short money years for decades of nothing later. As you tried to point out but she clearly did not want to discuss.
@ horseman I don’t see anything from you hung up in the spam or approval folders. Did it post? If not I am not sure what happened? It seems more than one link in a comment can cause this, so post sack link as it’s own comment and see if that works. Sorry if something got lost, not intentional, honest!
@ roger also I did another post about insight from reading a “working girl’s” blog and she said escorts really prefer if guys treat it like a biz transaction, not a date. They want to get you off but they are not really into you trying to get them off. They’ll play along she said, but it’s kinda a pet peeve. So she said anyway. Your comment, “much to their chagrin,” brought that to mind. If you search “escort” or “hooker” or … there’s a French term for it I can’t think of at the moment, the link to that blog I read that in should be linked off the article. I will try to find it too…
I think you mean ‘courtesan’, and it’s not really the same thing. Still a sex worker, but more like a ‘companion’ and not just a pump and run.
Is this it?
https://maggiemcneill.wordpress.com/
‘He eventually threw them in the trash and announced since we “weren’t having sex anyway we didn’t need them”.’
Sounds like your husband found out in experience how bad those things are. I’m not sure if women can voice out loud that they are sacrificing an innate part of them…but the anger and downed emotions I think is the voicing.
I place a lot of our war of sexes on contraception. Hence why I’ll suggest to Ash to get off those things…she might start to like men again.
I will not have sex without birth control unless im trying to get pregnant, so I’ll cross that bridge when and if I get there. As we are assisting my elderly grandmother in her late stages of her life, it would be unwise to have a baby at this point.
Great Grandchildren brought a lot of comfort to both of my Ex’s grandmothers, during the last several months of their lives.
She has a great grandchild with my sister but because of how she is, she ruined the chance to get to know her.
My grandma is bossy and sometimes a bully but she knows she’s lucky she’s not in a nursing home. She knows she’s lucky I’m more patient and understanding than my other family members.
I’ll likely write more about her too, when the times is right.
It’s good of you to take care of your grandma, Ash. I know care taking can be a very draining experience…both physically and emotionally.
“roger I am not so sure. I easily could have made the choices Alice has, but I have no desire to. Even for all the money in the world. To have sex with strangers, even very nice respectful ones, just isn’t appealing to me. But then I never understood the appeal of one night stands or hook ups either. While many women do so, I don’t think it’s in women’s bio make up to “fuck like guys.” Without birth control and fail that abortion, it would just simply be way too biologically risky for women to be be promiscuous. Wo those, Alice would soon be pregnant with no clue who dad was much less any support from him. That’s why it messes up women’s heads, it’s not natural. I would argue it’s very unnatural for women to engage in no strings (except in Alices case by the hour) sex. $400 doesn’t even come close to compensating for the risk of pregnancy, incapacity, and then the 18 years of raising a child solo as a social outcast.”
This.
First, let me mention something about Alice. I think that the reason that Alice was trying to get out of seeing me on Saturday morning was that she was a little bit hung over. I wouldn’t say that she was grateful for the breakfast that I brought her, but she was holding that bottle of orange juice like it was saving her life. So Alice is drinking on top of engaging in self-destructive behavior (prostituting herself all over town).
Thanks, FnuMnuLnu for the link to Maggie McNeill (The Honest Courtesan). She was interviewed by Obsidian Mumia Ali last month during the discussion of the Thot Audit. Even though she is too tough and mercenary for my taste, thank God for Maggie.
RPG, you bring up a vital issue that we need to discuss. I’ve been thinking about it. Let me start this way: A female’s most important profession, with motherhood coming in second, is managing her relationships with men. A woman is a men-managing agent.
You see, I think that this notion of providers preferring a strictly business transaction is rooted in feminist misandry. The idea that there are two types of women, i.e., hookers and not-hookers, is misguided. Women trade sex with men for protection and provision. Period. End of discussion. The greatest sin of feminism is in clouding this relationship.
It is a form of misandry to try to sell an hour of sex and attempt to keep it “strictly business.” I bring up the question that I started with yesterday: Is it so God-damned hard to let a man love you and take care of you? The most successful women manage the men around them so that those men keep providing and protecting her and her children.
There is a form of sex session called girlfriend experience (GFE). Some providers offer it. Usually it just means that the provider will let you kiss her on the lips. But it also means that she is open to a friendlier, more intimate interaction. So the girlfriend experience is a commodity that you pay extra for.
Now let me tell you about my third provider, who I adore, HavenChase. HavenChase is a white, full-figured, 27-year-old, peroxide blonde. In addition to providing the girlfriend experience as an escort, she also participates in Seeking Arrangement. She told me, “The Seeking Arrangement guys pay more, so they expect more out of you.” So HavenChase makes a living managing the protection and provision offered to her by men. I promised her that I would come visit her if she decides to work on Christmas Eve. Since she mentioned that she might be interested in getting into porn, I am going to take her to annual porn convention at the Los Angeles Convention Center on Feb. 24, 2019.
I wanted to mention that I am looking forward to women taking being more active in their sexuality. DeAnna Lorraine says that if a man is not all about his woman’s nether parts, and if that woman isn’t all about her man being all about her nether parts, then these people are not in a relationship.
I am so sorry that things are that way.
We all have so little time, and seem to waste what few chances we have…
RPG: Hi! Is it possible to somehow send you a message privately? I would like you to delete one of my comments that I sent a long time ago (with a different ”username”).
Roger…curiosity compels me to ask…
the conversation you had with Alice, “your biological clock is running out”, “do you think you need a man” and so forth….have you had that discussion with all of your providers?
@RB: I’ve read a few blogs of ‘providers’ over the years. The one thing that stands out to me, is that none of them seem to be able to have anything even near a healthy relationship. They all seem to crash and burn at some point.
Liz: The conversation starts off like this: Have you noticed that women have become such complete cunts that men are walking away from relationships and opting to have sex with hookers like you?
As soon as Alice mentioned that she was a nurse, I started giving her the treatment. At that moment it was clear that Alice as not a prostitute but a normal woman on some sort of self-destructive kick. My point to her was that good men exist and that she needs to nail one down as soon as possible. At one point I asked, “OK, will you tell me your list of qualifications that your guy has to possess?” “Oh, this is going to be good,” I said as I settled in on the bed next to her.
What I was proving to myself and everyone else is exactly what fuzziewuzziebear said, which was that if she had the alpha’est alpha who ever alpha’ed, she would eventually unceremoniously dump him. That’s why I threw up my hands and said that there was no saving her.
‘I will not have sex without birth control unless im trying to get pregnant, so I’ll cross that bridge when and if I get there.’
Oh I know that’s why you are taking them.
I’m just saying they are not good for you in the short term or long run. You’ll probably find out why that’s the case when you get off them (like in Liz’s story).
I’m sure you had your reasons, but I suspect there is a correlation between her cold shoulder toward you and your very personal lecture toward her. I also suspect this tactic would work similarly with the others you seem to hold in higher esteem at present. Most hookers are very very fucked up. But I could go into my favorite restaurant tomorrow and proceed to lecture the staff, owner, cook on how fucked up their lives are (maybe they are, an irrelevancy) and I doubt they’d be very friendly the next time I come in to eat.
RPG: Hi! I wrote a message to you through the feedback comment box in about page. Hopefully it came through.
A short lesson on the proper use of certain pronouns in the English language:
He – male
She – female
It – anything else
His – male
Hers – female
Its – anything else
Any attempt to dodge the use of “it” and “its” by using “they” and “their” should be regarded as an expression of schizophrenia and dealt with by competent psychological help.
That is one of them Roger but I think there was another from an escort. Sorry have not had a chance to look…
Hi Rose thank you for letting me know, I don’t check the email unless someone draws my attention to a message. I’ll have a look…
Oh I wasn’t advocation for “proper pronouns” I was just saying I could see the tour guide (a retiree) mentally scrambling for one. She opted for addressing them as male, which seemed to please them. If it hadn’t I am sure they would have objected.
Hi Rose I looked but don’t see a message. Can you say what username or what post to help me find it?
RPG,
At one time, you did say that female sexuality is not pretty. Men are beginning to see that. It’s unavoidable.
@fuzzie what it is, is women trying to act like cads. And no it’s not pretty, or even good for them long term, but it may seem like all reward no risk at the time. And again it’s only w birth control and abortion it would ever be possible for women to (seemingly but not actually) be able to engage in short term, no strings, fu(k em and forget em, ghost and move on sex like a cad. Bc even w b.c. and no baby, women want more — it’s built in biologically, the feminine imperative, baked into the survival sauce — where the cad doesn’t, never has, never will – planting seed and moving along is his imperative. Women have been taught all men are cads, but they aren’t. The manosphere might say all cads are alphas and all alphas are cads, but again, it’s not that easy. The whole thing becomes destructive when the guardrails come off and women want what they can’t have or ever be themselves— the cad. Even if that is right there is their sure doom, a game she will never win. Folly. And here we are. Yay.
@RPG: That’s the problem. No one should be mentally scrambling for a proper pronoun. No one should be enabling this insanity.
and not saying that ‘you’ are.
RPG: I’m not buying your bedtime story about female sexuality. The only thing keeping a female from riding the cock carousel is pregnancy and punishment from society. Those two issues have been resolved in women’s favor. Women only need a beta male provider for ten years while her children are small. Before the child-raising phase of her life, it’s cock carousel uber alles, and after the child-raising phase of her life, it is back to cock carousel uber alles until she physically cannot ride any longer.
RPG: Wrote a comment to ”about” page. Sorry for the trouble.
RPG,
I can see your point about the allure of being a cad for women. Earlier this week, I read a post about Meghan Markle. It speculated that, once married to Prince Harry, dumping him would the ultimate expression of hypergamy. It does look as if things are headed that way. At least, Princess Grace of Monaco committed for life. I guess those times are past. If this is the base nature of women, little wonder that men are running away from the sexual marketplace screaming.
From what I see, this is all female driven and led. Men are only reacting. It is only going to stop when the sexual marketplace seizes that women will see this is not empowering. The men aren’t broken, no sense in trying to fix them.
What I was proving to myself and everyone else is exactly what fuzziewuzziebear said, which was that if she had the alpha’est alpha who ever alpha’ed, she would eventually unceremoniously dump him.
Which is why “new and improved” has been such an effective marketing strategy for decades. Someone discovered long ago that women can be coaxed away from the tried and true if it is pitched as new and improved – even when the new and improved are not detectable. It’s the “new and improved” experience they are buying, not a product that actually works better. I will leave it to someone else to define the psychology of that, but I’ve been the victim of that approach many times – all my favorite foods suddenly gone and in their place are strange looking cartons and cans with “new and improved” plastered all over them. I have noticed that that behavior tends to go in cycles – it is not constant – which causes me to wonder if there is a hormonal basis at work in that behavior.
I was the last person I know to get a smart phone. Loved that old flip phone but it become impossible with the group texts from football practice, et al since everyone else had a smart phone and would send images/attachments. Mike had a smart phone about five years before I did.
At any rate, I think men like new and improved stuff too….but it’s different stuff. Gadgets, tech stuff, and so forth.
You messing with a black woman from Los Angeles, Harry? We tried to warn you. You need to give her thug love, and you need to keep that bitch in line with your pimp hand. Because if you don’t, she will find a (insert “n” word) who will. Because–guess what–she never deleted Pookie’s number.
Roger, I think you might be on the wrong thread…
But I’d love to read whatever you’re responding to.
Yeah, Harry! Give dat three benny ho a booty glazing’!!
Prince Harry is finding out that if he doesn’t glaze that booty, he is going to have problems.
Oh, Prince Harry…got it now. heh, sorry I’m slow this morning. 😆
In fact, I recommend that, in an effort to save a royal marriage, the House of Windsor summon Snoop Dogg to the palace to teach Prince Harry how to control his woman.
It is not that she is from Los Angeles, it is that she is American. Wallis Simpson didn’t work out all that well either.
There is something else that has been bothering me for some time. Men and women have little social interests in common. I have a bunch of female neighbors. Men never visit. If they are there at all, it involves something large and heavy.
Liz – i really dragged my feet on getting a smart phone, too. finally did. but i really miss my flip phone – it’s not as good as slamming down a phone, but flipping it closed to turn it off is a lot better than ‘swiping!’ lol!
I postponed getting a smart phone until 2 years ago. Took my flip phone swimming; would not turn on after that. (FYI, remove your phones from your pockets before swimming)
I still refuse to give out my number so the only people that can contact me on said smart phone is my family. Only reason I got it was because I could get on a cheaper plan using a smart phone than a flip phone. (Hard to beat $10/90 days).
“Money is to women what beer goggles asre to men.”
“Wife goggles…what women wish makeup did.”
Discuss.
There is something else that has been bothering me for some time. Men and women have NO social interests in common. I have a bunch of female neighbors. Men never visit BECAUSE THEY ARE large and heavy.
Fixed it for ya Fuzz
Prostitution is illegal because it kills marriage. Prostitution is a threat to marriage because women have made marriage such a shitty deal.
I was in my men’s meeting yesterday, and I was talking about how I am going to get with German pornstar Texas Patti. Actually I’m going to get an hour with her, but the first part of the hour will be with her and I in the video conference of the men’s meeting. A youngish man complained that Texas Patti is charging $550 per hour. (BTW, we will be asking why she calls herself Texas Patti. I suspect that Texas seems sexy to Germans, JR Ewing and all that.) I explained that her price was a half-off sale. Pornstars usually charge $1,000 for an hour.
But his question brings up an important issue about the burden of performance. He is an incel who lives with his parents. He has never attempted to be husband material to a modern woman. He has no idea how incredibly expensive and burdensome it would be to be Texas Patti’s husband. I’m saying to him, “Dude, you cannot afford free sex from Texas Patti.”
The pornstars say this all the time. They say, “You can’t afford to date me.”
Women need to be thinking about how to make marriage not be a shitty deal for men. At the moment they are just proving correct that old adage that goes like this: If it flies, floats or fucks, rent it.
Roger – isn’t sexual release just sexual release, not matter from where it comes? From that standpoint, doing it yourself is free; she is not, so the money must be paying for something other than simple sexual release.
Horseman,
I never thought of it that way. I can tell that men hardly visit, so they must not need large, heavy things moved very often.
I linked this at one of SSM’s unread blogs and thought that some may appreciate it here. She is a Russophile. I liked it for obvious reasons.
Merry Christmas!
RichardP: The doll coupled with virtual reality pornography is almost perfect. But I still need their fluids and smells.That why I spend most of my time dining at the Y.
Merry Christmas everyone!!! 🎄🎁🎄
And all the best to you and yours in the New Year!
Merry Christmas!
https://www.bbc.com/news/stories-46600325
Ancestory DNA….the gift that keeps on giving. Or not.
Horseman,
There is a reason that DNA tests are illegal in France. While no one knows how deep this goes, they are scared sh*tless about husbands going off.
I know someone who found out he had a half sister that way.
They’re close to the same age.
His dad (the father of both) was army, he was stationed at Ft Bragg at the time both were conceived.
that dna article is interesting. my husband got two dna tests for christmas. he’s adopted and found his bio mom when he was in his 30’s. she says he was a product of rape. we’ve tried to search for him by the name she has but have not found him. it will be interesting what the tests discover.
Just for fun. People have been discussing this Dear-Abby letter.
https://www.thecut.com/2018/11/im-broke-and-friendless-and-ive-wasted-my-whole-life.html
Hi, Polly,
I feel like a ghost. I’m a 35-year-old woman, and I have nothing to show for it. My 20s and early 30s have been a twisting crisscross of moves all over the West Coast, a couple of brief stints abroad, multiple jobs in a mediocre role with no real upward track. I was also the poster child for serial monogamy. My most hopeful and longest lasting relationship (three and a half years, whoopee) ended two years ago. We moved to a new town (my fourth new city), created a home together, and then nose-dived into a traumatic breakup that launched me to my fifth and current city and who-knows-what-number job.
For all these years of quick changes and rash decisions, which I once rationalized as adventurous, exploratory, and living an “original life,” I have nothing to show for it. I have no wealth, and I’m now saddled with enough debt from all of my moves, poor decisions, and lack of career drive that I may never be able to retire. I have no career milestones and don’t care for my line of work all that much anyway, but now it’s my lifeline, as I only have enough savings to buy a hotel room for two nights. I have no family nearby, no long-term relationship built on years of mutual growth and shared experiences, no children. While I make friends easily, I’ve left most of my friends behind in each city I’ve moved from while they’ve continued to grow deep roots: marriages, homeownership, career growth, community, families, children. I have a few close girlfriends, for which I am grateful, but life keeps getting busier and our conversations are now months apart. Most of my nights are spent alone with my cat (cue the cliché).
I used to consider myself creative — a good writer, poetic, passionate, curious. Now, after many years of demanding yet uninspiring jobs, multiple heartbreaks, move after move, financial woes, I’m quite frankly exhausted. I can barely remember to buy dish soap let alone contemplate humanity or be inspired by Anaïs Nin’s diaries. Honestly, I find artists offensive because I’m jealous and don’t understand how I landed this far away from myself.
Also, within the past year I’ve had a breast-cancer scare and required surgery on my uterus due to a fertility issue. On top of that, I’m 35 and every gyno and women’s-health website this side of the Mississippi is telling me my fertility is dropping faster than a piano falling out of the sky. Now I’m looking into freezing my eggs, adding to my never-ending financial burden, in hopes of possibly making something of this haunted house and having a family someday with a no-named man.
I’m trying, Polly. I am. I’m dating. I’m working out and working hard. Listening to music I enjoy and loving my cat. Calling my mom. Yet I truly feel like a ghost. No one knows who I am or where I’ve been. I haven’t kept a friend, lover, or foe around long enough to give anyone a chance. What’s the point? I don’t care for my job. I’m not building toward anything, and I don’t have the time or money to really invest in what I care about anyway at this point. On top of that, society is telling me my value as a woman is fading fast, my wrinkles require Botox (reference said poor finances), all the while my manager is asking for me to finish “that report by Monday.” Why bother?
My apathy is coming out in weird ways. I’m drinking too much, and when I do see my friends on occasion, I end up getting drunk and angry or sad or both and pushing them away. And with men I date, I feel pressure to make something of the relationship too soon (move in, get married, “I have to have kids in a couple of years”; fun times!). All the while still trying to be the sexpot 25-year-old I thought I was until what seemed like a moment ago.
I used to think I was the one who had it all figured out. Adventurous life in the city! Traveling the world! Making memories! Now I feel incredibly hollow. And foolish. How can I make a future for myself that I can get excited about out of these wasted years? What reserves or identity can I draw from when I feel like I’ve accrued nothing up to this point with my life choices?
wow, Roger. just … wow.
i have nothing.
I might’ve mentioned this anecdote before, but there was a really good nurse on the floor I knew a few years back. She was probably mid fifties. I thought she’d been a nurse for years, but only got her RN license about four or five years before. She told me she had been a corporate executive in a major firm. She had no children or spouse, just a SIW with means. One night, she had a really lucid dream that she was at her funeral and no one could really say anything noteworthy that she had done in her life. It was an epiphany….she resigned and applied to nursing school. She found a lot of satisfaction helping others.
My advice to this woman, if I were Polly, would be to think in terms of “I intend to…” instead of “the problem is…”
Liz
Excellent advice!
When you get down to the bottom of it, she never placed any value on men or relationships. Now, its’s too late. There is going to be a lot more of this going forward.
Ahahahahaha.
Did it to themselves. I have zero sympathy.
I do respect the nurse who did something about it.
The rest…..boo hoo go join Dancer and Vixen in line.
I am not normally an evil or unfeeling person. Christ I take care of a Mrs, a dog, four cats and five horses. For fun.
But that boohoo in Rogers link…no self reflection, no I am going to fix this, no here is what I learned. Just boo hoo.
Is it wrong that I almost (ok no almost) take pleasure in knowing what she has to look forward to? The lonliness, the rejection, the utter lack of control, the absence of hope…
Just like the dozen plus nice guys she likely summered…
The tells?
“was also the poster child for serial monogamy. My most hopeful and longest lasting relationship (three and a half years, whoopee) ended two years ago. We moved to a new town (my fourth new city), created a home together, and then nose-dived into a traumatic breakup..”
And
“All the while still trying to be the sexpot 25-year-old I thought I was until what seemed like a moment ago.”
A sexpot who couldnt bring herself to settle down to one man for more than three years. How you gone keep a masn for the twenty it takes to raise your frozen egg spawn?
No.
She had chances. She threw them away.
Horsemans patented 1 for five rule.
Party the decade between 25-35.
Then live with the consequences for the five decades 35-85.
All alone.
I AM evil for enjoying it on behalf of all my brothers! But I have zero fucks to give to ms boohoo and her sisters.
Hey!
On Dancer and Vixen
And Comet and Blottoed!
On Prancer and Harlot
On Pierced and Tattooed!
No dash away, dash away, just GO AWAY all!
(With apologies to Mr. Moore)
If you think I am an asshole.
Been married for thirty years and still love my Mrs and will til I die.
Was once a firm believer.
Now imagine the reaction to the 28 year old average guy 50k job who in past would be getting married to ms boohoo but is now a forced incel.
Or the guy who married ms boohoo and was divorced after five years because she enjoyed serial, i.e. not permanent monogamy.
Or the guy 20, just moved out of his single moms house who was ms boohoo who displayed her contempt for men to her boy child daily.
No. I am the best case for sympathy. I once believed. The other three…..
The cohort born mid 70 to mid 80 are hitting the boohoo stage now.
In droves! In thousands!
And the guys, theircounterparts. FORCED into the same lonliness…remember the population is roughly 1:1 so for every single ms boohoo there is a no fault of his own unmarried guy.
And they at best dont give a fuck….at worse actively hate these women.
But either way neither gonna lift a finger to help.
For the next FIFTY…5…0… Years!!
Bloom … sugar ant saga … or drama … or the little suckers that make me wanna blow them up! seriously!
they were coming in on the outside wall. nothing i tried worked. called a pest control company. after several visits they got rid of them. i was sooo happee!!!
few months later, they showed up on the kitchen counters on the inside wall! actually – that was the day before thanksgiving. i moved everything off those counters … several visits later, they’re gone!
NOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! they’re NOT!
now i’m seeing a few on the counters on that outside wall!!!!!!!
I share the Horesman’s sentiments, though I am a little less celebratory.
In the manosphere we like to say that each of us is only a blow job away from going back to the plantation. That has always been true for me, but it isn’t true anymore. Just like the sun rises in the east, by 9:30 a.m. on Saturday morning some sexpot hooker in her twenties is giving me oral sex. I understand this consciously and subconsciously. I have become a completely different person. If you look in the box where I used to store my fucks, you will find no fucks in my fuck box.
I let every woman I know, other than the women at work, that this is how I live. I even show them a photo of my bed with the doll and virtual reality headset. The fact that I live this way says more about the state of American femininity than it says about me. I am such a high-quality man that in a healthy society no woman would let me waste a drop of semen on hookers, pornstars, or sex dolls. But you know what? I still can’t get a date in this town.
Ok really really dum question. Someone at Spawnys refered to Fuzzie as she.
Fuzz….you’re a guy….right?
I think liz or ame just made a typo.
Ash says she will keep using BC until she wants to get pregnant. On her blog she says she grew up in the 90s. That would put her at around 30.
Better get on that , Ash.
I’m sitting here having a good chuckle. Horseman, for all the certitude that you express in your posts, it just strikes me as funny to see you suddenly asking, all serious,
Fuzz….you’re a guy….right?
Horseman
Relapse, not only is he a man, he actually likes horses. The two of us talked about that years ago in SSM’s forum.
Ame
Never mind bugs, we got hit with 100+ winds on Thursday that took off the power during the winter for many people here. Thousands are still without electricity. Ours were out for five days, strangely there were no feminists around ;-D
Instead both sexes did their best to look after the weakest in our community. The sweetie, the lady who runs the food at the lodge, and myself cooked dozen of orders of coffee, French toast and sausages, for those hanging around my old wood stove. The kiddo took other orders to those that couldn’t get here, he was told to make sure that they were warm enough. He noticed some did not have enough wood so he is truly growing up and beginning to measure like a man ;-D
Horseman,
I am very much a boy bear, at least, when I checked last. I understand that is something very unlikely to change.
Roger,
Of course you have no end of trouble getting a date. You are commitment worthy.
There is another point. As men age, their higher mortality gets to be a factor in demographics. For this reason, the dating market has to very hard on women over fifty. Still, when I was on OkCupid, I never saw this effect.
BG – very sorry y’all have lost power … but love hearing stories about boys becoming men and a community caring for the needs of others 🙂
Happy New Year!
Bg. Vancouver Island or the upper mainland?