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Ok maybe I am getting jaded, but who else is really buying this?
https://sacramento.cbslocal.com/2019/02/12/modesto-elderly-couple-wedding/
I know they are going for the feel-good story here. And for everyone involved’s sake I hope it’s true.
But her SEVENTH marriage and his FOURTH? But this time, of course, it’s different, it’s the real deal.
Really? True love forever (TLF) or is that too late fools??!!??? (TLF)
I suppose if nothing else, I guess it shows hope springs eternal. Even in my most jaded of thoughts on the topic, I hope I am wrong about them and this. But I would not bet money on it, so I guess not hopeful enough. Although at their ages the odds a divorce will be finalized before…. (wow, I really AM getting jaded!!!)
What do you think? Please share in the comments!
So this would be her seventh “soul mate” and his fourth, or maybe it’s the one “soul mate” they finally found.
I get so confused.
What gets me is that she says it’s her “first love”. Seven men before him and she didn’t love a single one of them.
pathetic.
somewhere money and health insurance is involved. I hear BJs without teeth is fantastic.
Yeah, that starteled me, too. That was a blow to the face for every one of her exes
Slight change of topic, but thought I’d share
From the leader of our prayer group, on Valentine’s day:
“I hope and Pray that all is well with each of u on this wonderful Day Our Lord has provided for us to enjoy. A Special Happy Valentine Day Wish for everyone. I hope u all have someone to share it with.
Sue and I had our very first date together 60 Years ago tonite. We attended Sweet Heart Ball at Warrior High School (Alabama). Today we are still on our Honeymoon and give thanks everyday for each other and the Blessings He gives us. THANKS BE TO GOD
@ Liz, now that’s a feel good story! ❤️
I thought so too. They’re such a cute couple. 🙂
Never miss an opportunity to keep your foot out of your mouth. I have to think that the children and grandchildren have to be feeling pretty stoked about her comment. That said, I’m having a hard time finding rage about this union. I’d say that it is mostly harmless. I am much more worried about my young niece who is set to wed in September. She’s in love with the idea of being married.
She is rewritting history to fit her newest situation.
On a sarcastic note. This might be the one!!! It is possible one of them dies before a divorce happens.
The gumption to even bother getting married and actually planning a wedding that many times is somehow impressive.
I have a lot of mixed thoughts about all this. To begin with, it reminded of my stepmother who remarried after she lost my dad. She is a nurturer and living alone is not for her. About the multiple marriages, of all the women I got to know well on OkCupid, they had all married five times. Not good.
Liz,
I liked your prayer. This is the only thing that could top it on the “Awwww” factor.
“…the odds a divorce will be finalized before…. (wow, I really AM getting jaded!!!)”
🙂
ahhh, Liz … i love that!
OP – there’s so much wrong in all of that. but what’s wrong is what’s already been done. what a tragic legacy they’re leaving behind.
We have been dealing with serial monogamy for a long time. It’s not socially beneficial, is it?
Well at 90 it’s a pretty good bet this marraige will be to death does them apart.
Whatever.
Since Blooms outrage fatigue post I’ve found I really can’t get up the enthusiasm to have an opinion on much of this anymore.
Just another field report of why it wont change.
Happy I’m gonna propose to you on Valentines Day…Wait what??
It would have been useful if the article had mentioned whether the previous marriages had ended in divorce or the death of a spouse.
And speaking of getting jaded: as a sign of the times we live in, and thinking “womens’ prayer group” even though she didn’t say that, the more I read of Liz’s post the more I expected to discover that the “leader” of this prayer group was a “Janice”, outing herself in front of everyone. Unfortunately these days, it is becoming less safe to assume normal.
Horseman, that radio video is hilarious! FINAL SCORE: ex-boyfriend = 1, slut = 0
Q: What do you get when you cross donkey DNA with an onion?
A: A piece of ass that will bring tears to your eyes.
Funny stuff, Larry. 😆
Heh, Richard…not a Janice, but his name is Jack.
Which means you got the first two letters of his name right…as well as the ‘c’, which is three out of four!
(insert music from Twilight dudududududududu…)
Seriously, tho, Liz – while reading through your comment, I was waiting for your point to be that “Janice” was the leader of the prayer group, expressing her appreciation of Sue, her valentine of 60 years. Was puzzled that you didn’t make that point more explicity. Then I realized I was assuming “women’s prayer group” and re-read to clarify that you didn’t specify that. But it points out how I’ve come to expect the (what used to be) unexpected these days – as that unexpected is showing up more and more these days.
I’ve gotten interested in Jordan Peterson’s discussion of enforced monogamy.
What he is trying to say is that monogamy is a social norm. Monogamy is enforce by custom and tradition and social stigma as opposed to force. He used the example of his married son. If his son, now married three years, comes to him bragging about how he has had three affairs and not gotten caught, Jordan Peterson would not encourage his son. He would say, “What are you doing? Stop it immediately.”
The Solitary Wolf out of The Netherlands has done a video recently. The idea is that when women are hegemonic in the sexual marketplace, you end up having polygamy. You get the 80/20 rule. The majority of men end up with no woman. Six thousand years ago seventeen women reproduced for every man. Today women are hegemonic in the sexual marketplace because they have their own jobs and are subsidized by the welfare state. This is why conservatives like Obsidian scream, “Cuts!” They want women to be force to the negotiating table to trade sex for resources without being subsidized by the government.
In this video both Joe Rogan and Jordan Peterson agree that the solution for incels is self-improvement. That is the gynocentric opinion. The red pill opinion to promote the MGTOW quadriad, i.e., hookers, pornstars, sex dolls, and virtual reality pornography.
A new post at Spawny’s there would be
https://spawnyspace.wordpress.com/2019/02/21/let-me-fix-this-part-i/
Roger … sorry to shit on your parade … but Rogan and Peterson are both wrong. As is Rollo. You are all trying to blame men and tell men if they just did this or that, then things would be different. Just improve your lives and EVERYTHING would be different. And, You’re wrong. If you want things to change you need to start blaming women and holding them accountable and to quit blaming men. This isn’t a MAN problem its a WOMAN problem or more specifically a SOCIETY problem … in that society lets women get away with what they are doing, how they are acting. Past societies didn’t allow that, didn’t enable that, held women in check.
Women always prefer the top 20% of men. If every man on the planet lost 20 lbs. Started working out. Worked on their appearance. Dressed better. Improved their social skills. And learned game. THIS WOULD NOT CHANGE. Women would still prefer the top 20%. And as long as they are allowed to do that, and get away with it, and ruin the lives or at least hold hostage the lives of the bottom 80% of men … nothing will change. Men improving … just raises the bar of where the 80% get cut off.
What we need is not for men to improve but for women to be held accountable, to be reined in and not allowed to run amuck and ruin things for everyone else … including their own children.
“Hi Al, and welcome to the show … our listeners want to know how you’ve made a career out of playing pinball for thirty-five years.”
“Well Bob, that’s easy: I actually suck at pinball, and maybe I always will, but I keep playing the game hoping I’ll win big someday.”
“Al, how can you afford to play pinball so much?”
“Bob, how can you afford not to play pinball as much as me?”
“WELL … that’s all the time we have for Al! Tune in next week when we talk to Chloe, who has been playing pinball for forty years … maybe we should get her in touch with Al!”
🙂
To be sovergien a man must fix his own shit
Anything else is crawfishing and crawfishing is for bitches
Roger,
I have to agree with Mega. There is little point in addressing men. They didn’t create this problem. It is that women who got pig greedy. I do have to agree that enforced monogamy works and it is the best solution that has been found so far. The only problem with it is that women can’t monkey branch. In the application, all the men who are married are incentivized to improve the lot of their families. This carries over into the society as a whole.
As for the seventeen to one reproductive ratio from six thousand years ago, we have nothing but pure speculation to answer for that. I do wish that we knew. It was the dawn of civilization and agriculture was just getting started. It couldn’t last, as Jordan Peterson points out, polygamous cultures are violent and that may be where enforced monogamy got its start.
As for incels, it may be the wrong term for men. Anyone who scrape together two hundred dollars by definition isn’t one. Even if he chooses to spend the two hundred dollars elsewhere, it is his choice. Things are different for women. With so may men going MGTOW, the number of incels among them is going to swell. This is something new. I can’t think of a time when women did not have reproductive opportunity, ever. That, in itself, may spell the death of feminism, because it is feminism that has brought this down on women.
I should have bought popcorn at the store.
Another errant thought about women and prostitution, Joe Conforte tried in the seventies to offer a service for women at Mustang Ranch. It failed. The recovery rate for men made it not feasible.
Picture a bear sitting in his cave scratching his head.
@ Fuzzie and Mega: Far be it from me to endorse the gynocentric proposals of Dr. Jordan Peterson and Joe Rogan. I agree that male self-improvement is an obnoxious suggestion. Even if all of us converted ourselves into star-bellied sneetches, we would still have the 80/20 problem because hypergamy floats.
The deti holding forth over at Spawnyspace is Lord Vishnu the Destroyer of Worlds laying waste to all female fuckery. He writes:
“Men’s dilemma: Either become upper middle class on up and marry for consolidation of material assets in what will likely become a dead bedroom marriage; OR if middle class on down, hunker down, eschew marriage and fatherhood, take what you can get sexually, and it’s every man for himself. It’s catch as catch can for men, sexually.
Women’s dilemma: Can get all the sex they want from hot men; can’t get one to stay with her. Can get men to stay with her, but doesn’t want to have sex with them. Must work and cultivate a “career” she doesn’t really want, which is one of the prices she pays for all that hawt sex.
There. I have now set out the entire problem in today’s sexual and relationship market places.”
Finally he writes:
“I can see that women don’t want to be married. When you free them up and unmoor them from moral and social restraints, they have sex with the hottest men they can, as many hot men as they can, for as long as they possibly can. They exercise maximum control over everything around them, including their men and their sex lives.
Women in the west, today, are the freest, richest, most privileged humans ever to walk this planet. They can have literally whatever they want, any time they want. So if they want to be married, they can get that done.
And they don’t do it. Because they don’t want it.”
I have been asking my hookers about their plans for life. Are we all just going to keep doing this until the end of our days or until we just can’t keep doing it? I’m trying to figure out how to make this work over time.
I think that I am settling in on four providers. One of them likes me. So I am going to be a 50%-boyfriend to one and a 17%-boyfriend to each of the others.
What is funny is that a lot of these women are doing the sex Web Site because they get treated better by us than by the guys they find on Match.com. Instead of having a guy try to pump and dump them for the least amount of money and effort, they can get paid $300 for sex with a higher-quality guy.
If I didn’t have the money, I’d be an incel too.
Tomorrow I am taking one of my hookers at $3000 to the pornstar convention. She is my shill. I’ll hand her $200 to hand to a pornstar. She will be pumping each of the pornstars for information on how to break into the industry. My hooker–bless her little heart–is thirty-five years old. At some point she’ll point to me and say, “This money is from him. He wants to get on your fuckboy list. What do you say?”
I’m doing it for vanity and political propaganda. The truth is that these providers on the sex Web Site are fantastic. More often than not the sex Web Site’s $260-providers beat out the $1000-pornstars.
Roger,
Thanks, there is no way to beat the 80/20 rule, but I think it is more like 98/2.
I have to wonder about their complaints of how they are treated on internet dating sites. I had horrible luck, which I came to find out was normal, and I was nice to all the ladies. It is my guess that guys who are good in real life just aren’t noticed by women on these sites. It is also my guess that they like getting a week’s pay for a hand to mouth job in the space of an hour.
More stuff to make my head itchy. Is this hypergamy?
Sum Ting Wong.
Anything else is crawfishing and crawfishing is for bitches
especially if you’re allergic to crawfish! … i’m allergic to crawfish 😉
Ame
Can you eat prawns or normal fresh or salt water fish? Gonna be tough to make the magic soup ;-D
@Roger said: At some point she’ll point to me and say … He wants to …
I would think that most porn stars are owned, and forbidden by their owner from responding to your offer, at least at AdultCon. It will be interesting to hear how your adventure goes.
BG – I’m allergic to all shellfish. It causes my throat to close. I just figured I’d substitute fish, which I can eat. I can’t eat grains anymore so I’d have to make it without that, too 😊
@Richard P: “porn stars are owned, and forbidden by their owner from responding to your offer,”
What I’ve gathered is that many of them, and here I am talking about the second-tier, no-named, rank-and-file masses of women active in the industry, are totally independent. These are not the top-tier women whose names you know. What they are worried about is that every two weeks they have to get their STD test, for which they pay $200 out of their own pocket. So they are saying that the can’t afford to sleep around and catch an STD.
I’m bringing Gina; first, because I adore Gina, and second, because the pornstars won’t talk to me because I look like a cop. Last year Norah Nova–God, I love little Norah Nova (happily married housewife)–told me that the rule for the trade show is that no women are allowed to leave the floor to have sex with a man. I’m there to collect cell phone numbers.
Should be an interesting weekend for you. Tell us how you do. I’m curious to know whether they truely are “totally independent” or whether they are contractually tied to a manager or agent of some sort who governs what they can and can’t do. I’m curious if you’ve found a group of women who actually can manage their own careers – since women supposedly (at least according to some sections of the manosphere) can’t think strategically, because they have difficulty understanding cause and effect.
Ame
How about this: https://www.favfamilyrecipes.com/poor-mans-lobster/
My wife loved that, I think any white fish would probably work ;-D
A new post at Spawny’s there would be
https://spawnyspace.wordpress.com/2019/02/23/relationship-skills/
BG – that’s an interesting recipe … would never have thought about cooking fish in sweet water! i’d have to use honey for sugar b/c sugar’s out, but butter is in! lol! 🙂
Ame
My wife used that recipe but added some sliced lemon in the cooking water, It works best in any white fish with larger flakes, pretty much any cods or lake whitefish. With a strong chicken stock, some ginger, a few BBQ pork slices, and a lot of fresh vegetables, add a few bits of that fish instead of prawns and you would be as close to that soup as you can with your diet.
Here is a better youtube with a Texan twang included just for you ;-D
https://kentrollins.com/poor-mans-lobster/
BG – i watched the video – really interesting! i don’t keep sugar in the house anymore, so i wonder if it can be boiled without it? do you know? have you ever boiled fish like this before? i’ve never even heard of boiling fish before!
My wife cooked Ling Cod like that many times. Cooking boiled fish with sugar changes the taste while adding the acid in lemons makes the flesh firmer. Together the flavor and texture resembles that of prawns, crab, or lobster. They taste a little sweet because they all collect glycine to adjust to salt water. I think you could use honey instead of sugar, the Texan’s warning to not boil it over is good advice ;-D
It runs thirty six minutes but it is well worth it, even for Liz and her slow internet. This is a truly horrible judge and it is good that she will end up in prison. I had no idea that a judge could be this bad. Affirmative action has made it possible.
They taste a little sweet because they all collect glycine to adjust to salt water.
i did not know prawns, crab and lobster were a little sweet. interesting.
the idea of sweet fish doesn’t sound palatable, so i was planning to look up ways to boil fish, fish soup, etc.
using the acid from the lemon to make the flesh firmer is interesting – i always find the science of cooking interesting even though i don’t understand it enough to articulate it 😉
Nice that most of you lot can eat seafood …
Shellfish for me? A rapid trip to the A&E.
Regular fish for me? If I’m lucky, it’ll just be a rapid emptying of my guts.
And if I’m not lucky? A rapid trip to the A&E.
Oyster sauce at an “authentic” Chinese restaurant? Mister Yuk sez NO!
I can’t even eat chips from a chip shop anymore because of frying them in oil shared with cooking fish.
And as if this hasn’t been enough fun, I found out that I can’t eat eggs either …
I’ll let you know how my Japanese chicken katsu and chicken kara-age recipes do without egg batter, because that’s how I’ll be getting my fried chicken from now on. I have dry egg replacer to try as well as some “vegan mayo” which doesn’t taste too bad.
But this all happens because I wound up being sensitised during a long and bad hospital stay, and so now all of my former minor allergies are major allergies and all of my former major allergies can now potentially kill me.
What I suspect is that all of the immunoglobin E (IgE) pathways have been triggered hard, probably CYP2D6 especially, and so every little thing makes me react and will likely continue to do so for several more years.
So Ame, no fooling around with the minor allergens of your past if this sounds an awful lot like the kind of thing you’re going through …
“I’ll let you know how my Japanese chicken katsu and chicken kara-age recipes do without egg batter, because that’s how I’ll be getting my fried chicken from now on. I have dry egg replacer to try as well as some “vegan mayo” which doesn’t taste too bad.
But this all happens because I wound up being sensitised during a long and bad hospital stay, and so now all of my former minor allergies are major allergies and all of my former major allergies can now potentially kill me.”
Wow I’m so sorry PAC 😦 at least it sounds as though this keeps you fairly healthy? Maybe the optimistic side?
Ame
LOL, they actually are very tasty, even the pooch likes some peeled prawns with his rice and broccoli. Mind you he likes everything except citrus and lettuce ;-D
Post Alley Crackpot – gosh! i’m sooo sorry you’ve had to go through all of that. it’s sooo frustrating.
that’s scary how minor allergens can turn into HUGE big deals so quickly.
Oyster sauce at an “authentic” Chinese restaurant?
yes … i’ve learned that asian cooking, esp restaurants, often use either oyster sauce or clam sauce in their base for most all their recipes 😦
i can’t eat soy of any kind, either. but i found that molasses makes a great substitute for soy.
i’m working with a Nutritionist, and this has been life-saving, literally. i highly recommend finding a Nutritionist if you can (and can afford it; it’s been quite expensive … but, after all the money i’ve spent over the years trying to ‘fix’ things on my own, i could have probably saved a bunch had i gone to a nutritionist first.
i’m off ALL dairy, ALL grains, eggs, sugar, all processed foods (didn’t eat many of those anyway), no pork.
i can eat small portions of lean meats – preferably organic, wild-caught fish, veg’s and fruits – organic – in moderation. i can eat real butter 🙂 . i can have coconut oil and flaxseed oil, organic balsamic vinegar, organic apple cider vinegar. i can have local, raw honey or manuka honey. i can eat organic quinoa. that about sums up my diet probably for the rest of my life 🙂
but … if i can get my adrenals, thyroid, cells, liver, pancreas, and gut healthy, it will be totally worth it 🙂
Roger never got back to us.
Wonder if he’s still rogering.
I can only imagine that he is. So, “Roger, that.”
You reminded me of someone who served as a pilot in the Nevada ANG and jokes about poor radio discipline.
Ame: “… if i can get my adrenals, thyroid, cells, liver, pancreas, and gut healthy …”
Wait, I might know this one: did the nutritionist have any advice about vitamin B1?
Some of that sounds like classic symptoms of vitamin B1 malabsorption.
Fortunately you can just load yourself up with what might seem absurdly excessive amounts of vitamin B1 because your body will excrete what it can’t use, and some of that excess can do nice stuff like scavenging for reactive oxygen species (ROS) such as the ones that cause pancreatic damage …
Do some Google searches on “vitamin B1 reactive oxygen species”, “vitamin B1 hypothyroidism”, “vitamin B1 adrenal fatigue”, “vitamin B1 thyroid fatigue”, etc.
There’s a whole blood test for vitamin B1 — if you can’t get the nutritionist to order one, see if you can find a “no doctor order required” place to do one for cash.
In my case, I got my allergies cranked up to 111 because some doctors thought it’d be great to keep me on some medicine that I turned out to be massively allergic to, and the worst thing about it was that it was totally unnecessary.
Had the doctor listened and paid attention, I could have been out of the hospital in two days instead of a month …