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The recent abortion law signed in New York brought up an interesting discussion in our home.
I figured my oldest, now in high school, was old enough to learn about the topic of choice.
I described the law in minimal words and without any hint where I stood or how I felt about it.
As she asked questions, one stood out, “What about when the mother’s life is at risk?”
She was surprised, as was I when I had first read the same, that doctors said in reply to the law there is no medical condition after 25 weeks gestation (the age when a baby can now survive outside the womb with preemie care) that requires a choice between mom or baby. None.
None.
So what is the reason for the law, if not to save the mother’s life?
At that point, we switched topics to a former preschool teacher and her son, whom she and her husband adopted after discovering a medication her own mother took in pregnancy had made her born infertile.
The boy’s birth mom (or biological mom) was a single mom with two kids already. When she found herself facing an unplanned pregnancy, she choose to place the baby for adoption. As part of the open adoption agreement she received an annual letter with highlights of her birth son’s year and photos showing he was happy and well.
He’s in college now, and has had a wonderful life. His adoptive parents love him dearly. My daughter knows them all personally and has seen what a wonderful family they are.
I didn’t even have to say it, how differently that would have turned out for all involved had the boy’s biological mother chosen differently.
Luckily for all involved his biological mom chose to carry the baby to term and place him for adoption.
She choose to think of others, not what was most convienent for herself. I am sure it was not an easy choice. But for all involved I am certainly glad she made it.
Then I brought up Steve Jobs, creator of her iPhone. Adopted. How different the world would have been, for example, had Steve Jobs not lived? Imagine. No Apple technology. No Apple. Would Bill Gates have been pushed to the heights he was without his nemisis Jobs? Would anyone ever made a computer in their garage without Jobs? Maybe not. Imagine. (And yes I know girls and their smart phones is oft discussed negatively in the manosphere, so I suppose some could argue not everything Jobs created was helpful. Lol. But that’s a different post.)
I hope she remembers this conversation if she herself (God forbid) ever faces an unplanned pregnancy. And if so, I hope she remembers it’s bigger than her.
What do you think? Please share in the comments.
Notes From a Red Pill Girl 
When I first heard of the NY law, I was reminded of how the one child policy was enforced in China and that would be legal in NY. It’s all too ghoulish for Count Dracula. He’s looking for a bucket.
The laws in VA and NY are beyond anything that many of us could dream of. Horrific. They slippery sloped into this. But the weirdest thing in my mind is that they will expect taxpayers to pay for their counseling. I wish women knew that their fertility means more to the human race than convenience or their narcisitic body views.
New York abortion law
That article is a useful read. Two main points of the new law:
* It puts the abortion law at the state level. So if the national abortion law is repealed, the N.Y. state law will still allow abortions in that state. Other states are going to follow this example, and for this purpose.
* It allows abortion when there is an absence of “fetal viability,” or the ability for the fetus to survive outside the womb. According to the article, this point is the only point where New York law differs from the national law.
“Luckily for all involved his biological mom choose to carry the baby to term and place him for adoption.
She choose to think of others, not what was most convienent for herself. ”
It’s “chose” past tense, not “choose” present tense. You’re welcome. 😉
Teaching your daughter to try to go for more selfless acts rather than selfish acts and hopefully she does it…will certainly make her a more attractive option to good men.
We’ve become fortunate enough to have the option of choice to contemplate. Now we can appreciate that and learn to make informed decisions and choices that are no ones but our own.
RPG, nicely one sided. It’s always all about the woman’s choice isn’t it? Not even you mentioned “the other” half, eh? As in a biological father. Of course he gets fuck all to say in the matter of whether HIS child lives or dies. It is all about the female, and what she wants, right?
oookay, Choices is the current topic..a female can, without too many repercussions..
Divorce a loyal husband, take his children and his worldly goods without cause.
Lie baldfaced, falsely accuse a man and ruin his life (rape, pregnancy, domestic violence, abandonment).
Kill any and all children she may have with impunity, regardless of what the father(s) of the child(ren) want.
Have sex with other men while married to her husband, just because she can and prove to be a slut.
Expect men to come to her aid, rescue, assistance solely on the basis of having a hole between her legs.
Excusing the vile actions and attitudes of other women because “team woman”.
I may have missed a few, but you get the idea. Western women, for the most part, ave devolved into loathsome, valueless and rabid creatures that men are rightfully choosing to reject. That is a choice also.
Yes Larry…women can choose to be incridibly selfish and many often do. Hence why they are not valued anymore.
My current number-one hooker called me in last night. She said, essentially, that she was short on her rent and that if I cared about her like I said that I did, I would come in and do her.
I normally avoid going in during the work week. I don’t get enough sleep as it is. A session on a week night just makes it worse.
We got to talking. It turns out that she has a dozen felonies on her record. She has lived in every county jail that Southern California has to offer. She has three children (two baby-daddies). She smokes (not too much). Some of her tattoos have yet to be finished. Her credit is so bad that she couldn’t rent a car if her life depended on it.
But I adore her. Tell me Larry and Earl why I feel like I have one of the best women America has to offer. Tell me why I do not have the feeling that I am missing out on all of those wonderful, virtuous American women.
I don’t know Roger…maybe you are delusional or something.
“ I feel like I have one of the best women America has to offer. Tell me why I do not have the feeling that I am missing out on all of those wonderful, virtuous American women.”
Well Roger, I do hope you are not expecting disagreement from me on your comments. Paying for sex is straight forward and both get what they want.
Roger, I have not commented a lot lately on RPGs blog but I do continue to read. Your comments are quite entertaining for me
Earl,
I do believe Roger’s question was rhetorical.
Roger,
There are a lot of jails in Southern California. She has to work hard to attain that.
Something has been bothering me for a while. I have to wonder how God feels about all these women making a liar out of Him. From Genesis, “18 The Lord God said, “It is not good for the man to be alone. I will make a helper suitable for him.”
Aw come on Fuzzy…
“I have to wonder how God feels about all these women making a liar out of Him. From Genesis, “18 The Lord God said, “It is not good for the man to be alone. I will make a helper suitable for him.”
God kept His word to make a suitable helper for man…called Dog. Woman was/is man’s torment to make him glad when it’s time to die
Larry G,
How did that get left out? Did my furry friends eat the pages?
Roger, so enjoyed your last comments..just doing to dissect and parse what you said for clarity, ok?
“My current number-one hooker called me in last night. She said, essentially, that she was short on her rent and that if I cared about her like I said that I did, I would come in and do her.”
(An aggressive prostitute who called a John for a “business transaction” because she cannot manage money, is manipulative and currently has her ass in a jam).
We got to talking. It turns out that she has a dozen felonies on her record. She has lived in every county jail that Southern California has to offer
(A repeat offender and really familiar with the criminal justice system. More than likely keeps poor company and social circles. High probability of becoming violent).
She has three children (two baby-daddies).
(Given her “profession” no surprise there. Knows how to milk the system as a single mommy. Doubt the baby-daddies are around much for the kids she popped out and probably she doesn’t give a shit either).
She smokes (not too much). Some of her tattoos have yet to be finished. Her credit is so bad that she couldn’t rent a car if her life depended on it.
(This part is lovely! Total disregard for her health by smoking, tat attention whoring, she sounds very mentally stable, Roger. Poor credit? Wonder where all her money went? Oh, that’s right, a tattoo. Very good financial planning, a terrific IRA. I might suggest to get tested on a regular basis for STDs, just in case.)
But I adore her. Tell me Larry and Earl why I feel like I have one of the best women America has to offer. Tell me why I do not have the feeling that I am missing out on all of those wonderful, virtuous American women.
(LOL! Roger, I damn near spit my coffee out reading this..DUDE! You ADORE a whore? No problem, man.. to each his own, I just find it funny as hell.)
Rock on, Roger,,can’t wait to read what you will post next…
good job, Mama 😉
Fuzzy,
“Larry G,
How did that get left out? Did my furry friends eat the pages?”
Naw, your friends are off the hook. I was referencing the newest Bible translation for this year, the Good Book with Alternate Truths, Study and Sermon Version. Right there on page 2 after God blew a big bubble of gum, called it the Universe and it was soooooo gooood! When woman was formed, the man had a third testicle (kind of a spare) and God used that extra nut to create a female that would always be pissed she didn’t have a penis or balls (soooo damn UNFAIR! Eve made the first pussy hat out of fig leaves) like her hubby did. Adam wasn’t thrilled to loose a nut either, messed up his plans to have sex 5 times a day.
God just KNEW that Adam would piss off his Creator one day, so God punished man in advance by making him have to bang woman to have his own kids (or so Adam thought. Recent DNA specimens show a suspicious trace of snake in all of Eve’s descendants. Draw your own conclusions, k?)
‘LOL! Roger, I damn near spit my coffee out reading this..DUDE! You ADORE a whore? No problem, man.. to each his own, I just find it funny as hell.’
I figured it was a joke…the delusional part was him saying there were any virtuous girls in America. It seems more men adore women who think they are whores than men who adore actual whores.
Larry G,
I think we need to stay away from translations by Goofy Bibles R Us.
“I figured it was a joke…the delusional part was him saying there were any virtuous girls in America. It seems more men adore women who think they are whores than men who adore actual whores.”
Earl, reading some of Roger’s remarks make me highly doubtful he is fucking any hookers on a sustained and full time basis. Some of the stuff said just does not add up, but it’s still entertaining to read.
Aaaand if a man overly “adores” and elevates any woman, be that a whore or Madonna, that man really needs to get psychiatric help and grow a pair.
“I think we need to stay away from translations by Goofy Bibles R Us.”
Ok, I’ll cede that to you…no more “enhanced” version quotes for now, at least here on RPGs blog…I may reconsider my references over on Spawny’s side of the house though.
I still can’t get over God being angry about being made a liar. I don’t think that he is going to take it out on the doggies who ate the pages.
Though I agree and love the first part of the piece the second part with Jobs can kiss my azz…. he had a daughter Lisa that he denied so he might as well have had an abortion. Lisa tried to make a relationship with her dad Steve, but was denied and dismissed. He can rest in piss as far as I am concerned. Anybody who would deny their own flesh and blood is a scumbag period! END OF DISCUSSION.
Agreed Fuzzie, if there is a heaven all of my pooches deserve to be there…where they can chase vermin and be rewarded with Belgium waffles ;-D
They like that idea!
@ Larry the blog is directed toward women so I did not include about dad (and you are right to point this out!) but I absolutely agree it’s not only about the woman. I am not sure if the boy’s bio father was involved in the adoption decision or what his side of the story is, but I do know he met his bio son for the first time when the son was 18 and he was so happy to learn how well he had done and what a fine young man he turned out to be. (Honor role, track team star, off to school to become a physical therapist.) The bio father was so thankful also to the adoptive parents, for all they had given and done for the boy. They truly are wonderful incredible people! The preschool teacher told me such a touching story about her husband “empty nesting” when the son went to college. He prided himself with always making the son a cooked breakfast. (Not having had so himself, or breakfast at all, as a child.) Not having the son there to make breakfast for was the hardest moment about the boy going off to school for the dad, or at least the daily reminder. I thought that was such a bittersweet tale! The boy is and has always been the apple of his parent’s eye. Sniff!
@ Kirk, hello and welcome! Thank you for sharing and you are right — I had forgotten that part of the story and found it very odd myself how Jobs reacted to and treated Lisa. Especially being adopted himself. Very sad. And why deny her? Maybe it was a money thing? Dunno. How sad! 100% agreed very cruel. Also no appreciation for his bio parents, referred to them as his sperm and egg donors. After reading his biography I think he was perhaps missing an emotional chip, or something. He was not nice to many people, even some who had worked tirelessly and loyally and heroically for him for years, apparently. Thank you for adding that, Jobs was for sure not perfect, and hope to see you often! ❤️
Roger I do worry about you, and your girls, but I must say the fact that she didn’t just ask for or demand money but was looking to earn it says something — I totally respect that.
I miss you.
I don’t, bye…click (not to self, change phone number)
Remember, to guys relationships are finite, not situational. It is or it is not.
Once you purposely, let me underline that for you, once you PURPOSELY smash the goggles he is wearing by leaving him, they are gone forever.
To a guy the opposite of love is not hate, or apathy or indifference….
…..it is Nonexistence
P.s. in all the romcons where the girl has her hand on the door “aren’t you going to stop me?”
No because as soon as you stepped towards the door he knew it was over, the door just happens to be on your departure path.
Only The Breakup ever got that scene right.
“in all the romcons where the girl has her hand on the door “aren’t you going to stop me?”
No because as soon as you stepped towards the door he knew it was over, the door just happens to be on your departure path.”
Nicely put, Horseman. “Bitch, meet door. Door, meet bitch.”
There is a new post at Spawny’s
https://spawnyspace.wordpress.com/2019/03/16/feminists-sjws-and-churches/
P.s. in all the romcons where the girl has her hand on the door “aren’t you going to stop me?”
Romcoms are not reality.
If a woman tests a man like that, she might be surprised of the outcome. It’s not like I test my boss to see how much he wants my employment by seeing if he’ll beg me to stay if I head for the door.
My number-one hooker is legitimately bisexual. That surprised me. I assumed that she was like most sex workers in that they are heterosexual but have sex with women when the job calls for it. She has been suggesting that I do her and her girlfriend at the same time. Twist my arm.
It brings up something that I didn’t have to think about until now, i.e., how I look from the back. With one hooker she is always in front of me. With two hookers the second one may be behind me.
It turns out that hygiene is a hooker’s biggest worry. When they approach the D, I can hear them praying to themselves, “Oh God, oh please, oh God, don’t let this D be smelly.” When they see that my D isn’t smelly, they are immensely relieved.
They hate body hair. So preparation involves pubic hair removal. Shaving is not required. Electric clippers work fine. Genitals have to be inviting if a man wants her to grab it without hesitation.
I turned around and looked at myself over my shoulder in the mirror. “Goddamnit, I have a hairy butt.” To paraphrase 1980s stand-up comic Andrew Dice Clay, how can I expect a hooker to look at my hairy butt crack and see love?
I guess that I could go to Rite Aid and see what they have. But I am a manly man, and we manly men have a solution. There are many problems in this world, but there is always one solution: duct tape.
Since the conversation has already taken a weird turn here:
@Roger said: My number-one hooker is legitimately bisexual.
From a biological standpoint, nerve endings don’t know gender from sex. Only one fact rules nerve endings: if they are stimulated, they will respond. How we respond to the firing of those neurons depends directly on that signal passing through our thought processes. What is this that is happening to me, and what does it mean? What were we taught that our response should be to such stimulation?
At the nerve stimulation level, all of us are bisexual. That is, our nerves endings respond when stimulated, regardess of who (or what) stimulates them. And note that I am not talking about desire here. One can have a strong desire for the opposite sex and no desire for the same sex. But, still, nerve endings respond when stimulated, regardless of who (or what) does the stimulating. The rest of our physiological response to that stimulation depends upon how we have been taught that we should respond.
I wouldn’t be shocked a prostitute has disordered sexuality.
Duct Tape???!!!!
I do remember reading in OkCupid’s home page something from a bisexual female. She had gotten so tired of women not responding that she was only going to write to men. It was comforting to know that it was not just me.
As a bear, I am furry all over. The thought of duct tape is horrifying.
RPG,
Might I suggest another line of reasoning to talk to your daughter regarding this abortion?
It goes like this; Is murder OK? If the answer is yes, then there should be no issues with these abortions. There should be no issue when someone kills your mom, or dad, or sibling etc. YOLO right?
If the answer is no, then the next question is; who is responsible for the murder? If someone answers (like the pro-life people) that no-one is responsible, then there should be no punishment for the murder. Here it should be pointed out that if murder is acceptable in certain cases then the only thing stopping anyone from murder is just to create a special case. Rest assured that those in power (government) will create every special case they need to kill whoever they want. Possibly even you and your daughter. And because it was a special case, then those people who killed your family should not be held responsible.
If someone suggest the mother or the doctor should be held responsible, then we need to ask; what should the punishment be? At this point the discussion could go many different directions. I will just suggest one possibility. For a number of reasons, a woman who has abortions have demonstrated through choice that they are a net negative on society, so it is in societies best interest that they should have hysterectomies with the abortion. I tend to like the irony of this particular punishment.
Roger, your #1 hooker is not unique, not at all. Most women are bi-sexual or at least open to it especially with other women. Its why they love fags and lezbos … and most women dig the bi/homo lifestyle and are 100% in support of it. That’s part of the reason we got to where we are. Women get to vote, women love fags/lezbos … so fag marriage getting legal recognition was only a matter of time.
And I have hooker experience too. My advice to you is this: you need to get into the lifestyle, live it a while … it eventually gets stale … then get out of it. You need to do that to appreciate it for what it is. You’re in the middle of stage 2 … so you’re going to be biased (ITS GREAT !!!! ). Live it till it gets stale (it will), then grow out of it. And only then make a decision about what its all about. Right now … you’re too tied up with the passionate end of it.
I could elaborate on how these things work, but I’m sure most wouldn’t care. And most certainly wouldn’t agree on my take because it paints women in a bad light. So gonna pass on offering my opinion except to add:
Roger … glad you having fun !!!
Who pulls the duct tape?
LOL
It’s a shock when any woman is in an actual relationship nowadays.
Don’t pull the duct tape!!! It would sound something like this.
Earl,
After reading that, I confirmed that bi-women were a lot more talkative. Still, it didn’t come to anything. They were still the wrong girls for me.
I have to go to Home Depot to get the super-sticky duct tape. The duct tape that I used didn’t grab all of the hair hard enough.
Wax on, wax off.
Aw poor little bear cub. that’s heart breaking. 🙁
Women love to talk…actions are often iffy.
Liz,
In another, more lengthy, video, it was explained that the humans were doing research. The little guys went back to Mama Bear. No harm done.
Roger,
It is painful to even contemplate it.
Earl,
At least, they talked.
“Wax on, wax off.” Was that a 1980s film reference?
Liz, Liz, Liz,
“Who pulls the duct tape?”
going to mansplaine for you just one more time, k?
Whoever bids the highest get to pull off the tape.
Hm.
Would I get to dress like a North Korean prison interrogator?
LOL! Sure, whatever “suits” you
you know … it’s … interesting … what one learns on the internet! 😉 lol!
Facepalm. Shakes head.
Horseman,
Every once in a while, we have to lighten up and get silly. Still, keep that duct tape a long way away from me! Bears are not into masochism.
That’s right.
Can’t get my freak on without an authoritarian outfit and some pain!
(but, seriously, if you’re going to epilate the wax on/wax off technique is one of the better ways to do it….just don’t apply to your balls and pull…at least, unless you apply pressure in the opposite direction. Really requires a professional don’t do that at home)
Liz the Nurse Knows!
a nurse we know does lots of interesting jobs … like she’s on-call with ER’s to do rape cases. and she’s a medical examiner. and then … she does botox injections and morning-after-hangover IV’s! and … hair removal … she told my Husband the story once of removing the hair from a guys testicles and then him asking her out. i guess he passed *inspection* b/c she went out with him!
that was the first i’d heard that guys did that … till Liz just mentioned it.
and … a little bit more of my naivete is stripped away! lolol!!! 🙂
“… the story once of removing the hair from a guys testicles and then him asking her out …”
Ame: Was the guy’s name Vince? 🙂
PAC – bwahahahahaha!!!!!
ah…so I see that the discussion has moved on from male general hair removal with or without duct tape to Nair for the Nuts? Waxing the Willie?
Ame,
“you know … it’s … interesting … what one learns on the internet!”
Just a wealth of pure knowledge is the internet….damn near Nirvana
🤣🤣🤣
Heh, I put a series of laughing smilies (only smilies) and it went into the spam queue.
So THAT’S where the limit is.
🤣
oh, I see it up there.
We haven’t reached the limit yet!
(times like these I wish I hadn’t given up alcohol for Lent)
After reading that, I confirmed that bi-women were a lot more talkative. Still, it didn’t come to anything. They were still the wrong girls for me.
They were probably the wrong girls for everybody
Farm Boy,
You have a good point there. At least they were talkative.
Larry G,
I’ll bet he doesn’t like this anymore than I do. Yikes!
Liz,
I always did like Miyagi. I can only imagine that Yoda approves too.
Enough, it is the first day of Spring. I have hundreds of my wife’s crocuses flowering, walking mothers have their kids stop to admire them. The temperature has warmed enough that the male Pacific Chorus frogs are singing at dusk, most of my neighbours enjoy their song. That is one of the reasons why we live there ;-D