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Well I am sure none of my regular readers will be surprised by this, but the college guy friend who reached out that I wrote about in two posts back tried to cross the line into turning our friendly talks into an online affair.
Thanks to the schooling from the red pill guys over the past few years, I knew this was coming.
And also thanks to them, I can understand what he’s feeling and why he would take this route. And I was ready when he did.
”Can I send you a picture?” He asked.
“Of?” I asked.
“I feel kinda silly,” he said.
“If it is inappropriate, don’t send it,” I said.
”Ok, sorry,” he said.
Then I said I understand what he’s feeling, and even what he’s trying to do, because I felt it myself when I was unhappily married. But that an affair was not the solution, facing what he’s avoiding, his bad marriage, is.
I know this may sound funny but a lot of times people have affairs as a way to stay in a bad marriage. I know that may not make sense but it’s true.
The affair distracts them from the problem and makes them feel good short term. But in the long run they end up feeling much worse. And if the affair is discovered, it is hugely embarrassing and devastating for all involved.
My life is complicated enough, as I always say. And I don’t want to enable him to continue to avoid his real problem. And of course, I would never do that to my guy. Nor would I want to do that to his wife. Even if I was single. Nope. Not happening. Not even for the tingles! (Sorry tingles, you never give good advice!)
He said he’s scared to be alone. I said well I guess it is up to him to decide is it worse to be alone, or to feel so stuck and unhappy he thinks of suicide as a way out. And I reminded him, there’s the third option that maybe he can like Horseman did go from unhappily married to now very happily married.
I am actually glad he reached out to me so that I had the chance to say all this. And to try to help him find a real solution.
I sent him the name and number of a male therapist I know who I think can really help him sort out how he got into a marriage he says he never wanted, and then help him decide what now? Not marriage counseling. Personal counseling.
Now not all therapists are alike and so going to one can sometimes make things worse not better, but I know this one well and I know he will give this guy good guidance. Red pill style.
I hope he calls him. He said he would. I guess time will tell.
And hopefully he keeps talking. But just like Hercules, the answer to anything illicit is now and always will be, “Isn’t my life complicated enough?” Yes it is. No need to throw illicit affairs into the mix, thanks, flattered, nothing personal, but that’s a NO.
What do you think? Please share in the comments!
What is a girl to do when the answer to “Isn’t my life complicated enough?” Is not yet?
I don’t know Go Figure, my life is always too complicated to even consider it! Lol. Complicated in a GOOD way. No need for me to get stamped with a red A or get bogged down in some soul sucking no-win but lots to lose situation.
And I also am not so naive that I think I could not be tempted. So that’s why I pray for resistance to temptation. I do know it would not lead to good things, so that also keeps me on the straight and narrow. Even if nobody ever knew I would know and God would know. And yes one can ask forgiveness but I try not to push my luck with the Big Guy! Lol. I follow his rules because they protect me not because they restrict me. Adultery is on the top 10 for a reason. I just go w that!
Sounds like you have a mindset where you are willing to take any takers. Deal with that issue first
I think that he may be forever grateful. I know that decades ago when I was completely lost I reached out in inappropriate ways because I had no better ideas. There were women who steered me in a better direction. That helped.
Yeah he’s in a bad spot now and a lot of guys in bad spots turn to things like drugs, alcohol, sex, or suicide. It doesn’t fix the problem though and will often make their life worse.
Does he have kids?
i agree that marriage counseling never works. however, individual, personal counseling with a trusted counselor is almost always good. can’t go wrong improving your own self.
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once heard a married man at church say that he prayed he would not be attracted to other women [to the point of affair], and that he would not be attractive to other women [to the point of affair]. my guess is that he’d done that already, and their marriage was struggling to survive. however, i thought it was something good to ponder.
we can’t change attraction … but we can decide how we’re going to respond to it. it’s best, as Bloom stated, to make plans ahead of time so you know how you’re going to handle situations like this.
temptation?
🙂
yeah, marriage counselling never works, learned the hard way. I demanded we go to marriage counselling given that my now ex, first wife was dumping all her work related stress on me. Literally would come home from work and rant and rave for 2-5 hours every night. So we went to counselling. I said my piece as to why we were there. Counselor asked … is this true ? You rant and rave for hours every single night … dumping your stress on your husband ? And … low and behold … she admitted it. YUP. Happens pretty much every work day M-F … all evening long. From the time she gets home till the time we go to bed. She admits she just can’t shut up talking about work, just can’t help herself.
So, obviously the counselor has something to work with here. STOP IT !!! Just stop it. Stop dumping on your husband !!! Started with exercises, limiting the stress dump. Began with a negotiated 45 minutes; when you get home from work you got 45 minutes to talk about work. AFTER THAT, JUST STOP.
And. She wouldn’t stop. Every friggin night.
We went to counselling 3 times. Once where she was told to stop. And twice … where she wouldn’t stop and couldn’t stop. After that … why the hell should we go to counselling ??? We identified the problem. SHE REFUSED TO FIX IT.
The amazing thing is that I hung on as long as I did. I must be a saint.
He’s missing the kind of love that he thinks he’s entitled to have. A huge part of that is intimacy. You said before that collage buddy is a good looking fellow. He’s already on to target #2.
“Can I send you a pic?” That’s some patheticly lame married woman game. I’d say poor fellow, were it not for the terrible thing that he has tried to do to your marrage and your husband.
I’ve never known anyone who had success with marriage counseling.
I did see a lot of marriage counseling as “preventative therapy”
(“we’re doing great but just want to keep that communication going!”
or alternately
“everyone else is getting relationship therapy and I’m worried we’re not as healthy because we’re not doing it”)
actually ruin marriages.
The last marriage counseling story I was told…the husband agreed to go. The counselor suggested trial seperation which he did. That next week she served him divorce papers.
They are nothing more than the devil’s mouthpiece for divorce.
@Roger I sure hope it helped! The guy is such a sitting duck if the wrong gal got a hold of him. Like scary vulnerable. Not that he might not do that yet but hopefully he doesn’t. I shared what some of you guys said in the last post (find yourself, save yourself, then figure out the marriage thing, etc.) and he was very happy. I didn’t share the blog link Bc of anonymity but I do pass on “the guys at that website say…”
@Liz no kids. He actually said he got a vasectomy Bc he while he wanted kids, he didn’t want kids under the circumstances. Probably wise. But also sad.
@ih8lookingback yes very poor game, that there. I understand what you mean re: “terrible thing” but I really don’t think it’s about me or that his intent is to break me and my guy up. Our relationship is long distance and so many people mistakenly misunderstand that I am single and even when I say I am not, often people think “well it’s not serious.” I have corrected him on this. I am not single and it’s serious and my guy knows about my talking to him and my motive and I tell him everything so there will be no hanky lanky, sorry, flattered, but no.
The guy is so lost… I do think the counselor I recommended can help him. Not sure what he will advise about the marriage. The counselor is a believer but also a realist. But a very wise MAN and this guy should be talking to a man about all this, not me.
RPG,
What got me to shut up on that thread was that you said that the “dead bedroom” thing was his idea. Does this still hold? One thought, if he is that vulnerable, he should be celibate.
As to affairs, while they might be a distraction for married people, there is little upside for single people. Married people play to play, single people are playing for keeps. There was a women I liked who saw me before she left town. She had mixed it up with a married attorney and, when it ended, her leaving town was part of the deal. While this may have benefited the married attorney’s wife, I kind of ended up on the short end. I never saw her again. There are ripple effects.
@fuzzie I don’t completely understand it and I am not a therapist by any means but he is trying to get his itch scratched but not deal with the cause. Any woman with sense getting involved there would have to see he’s playing both sides of the fence and unless she’s a cluster personality type who will trap him in his own game for her win (Marla Maples comes to mind, just call the wife!) well then you are right he is looking to have some on the side w no intent to leave, most likely. There are probably paid professionals for that but any gal not one would be foolish to think, “someday…he will leave her.”
Alternately he’s so feminized he’s looking to branch swing like a woman would. And again… not attractive.
If he wants something else, suck it up, be “the bad guy” and leave. THEN look. After figuring out how he got in this mess. If he’s not willing, then he needs to fix it or accept the bed he made. Involving another party is not the solution. Unless he’s trying to take the chicken way out and make her leave him. But again, what would that mean for the third party? “Thanks but I need to explore…now that I am divorced…” or a relationship plagued forever by the bad beginning. Not interested in any of the possible scenarios and no woman w sense should be. Look at how it worked out for Marla. Chump change for a lifetime walk of shame imho. I have never seen it work. Ever. Brangelina. Another example. Bet Brad is regretting that now!
I was born at night but not last night.
Ps fuzzie I think you dodged a bullet there. Too much complication on all sorts of levels. Good job bear!
Another thing, the lawyer and this guy don’t understand hypergamy. Women don’t want part they want all. I hope the gal got some good compensation for leaving town to start over with, at least.
Men who have a piece on the side that stays on the side need very deep pockets to make that work. And even then the Don and Brad found, even deep pockets may not satisfy hypergamy if a gal wants money AND top billing. Living in the shadows isn’t for most.
And if he’s just looking for a quick thrill my refusing to play along will also bounce him on to other pastures. Again, win.
You guys have taught me a lot. A lot a lot!
RPG,
I probably did dodge a bullet. Still, I am a little mad that the attorney’s wife forced her out of her home town. The moral of the story is that single people should have nothing to do with married people. There is no upside to this for them.
As for you and this guy, I don’t think you would have been interested pre red pill. Just guessing.
@rjpg said: And I also am not so naive that I think I could not be tempted. So that’s why I pray for resistance to temptation.
I am so happy to hear you say that. Folks who think they are immune to temptation can get blindsided something fierce. Knowing it can happen puts you ahead of the game, as you have described upthread.
re the dead bedroom trick he says he’s pulling: I wonder if that is in response to him discovering (to his horror?) that his woman would dare use sex as a weapon. One way to take that option away from her is to simply shut down and not have sex at all. You said he was a good-looking guy. I wonder if sexual encounters came easy for him when young. If so, that might be a reason why discovering his wife was willing to use sex as a weapon (if she did/does) came as a shock to him.
@fuzxie I would have been interested pre red pill in trying to help anyone I knew was struggling with suicidal thoughts, but pre red pill or no I would have and have always considered any guy “in a relationship” off limits. No matter how good the story or the package. It’s just dirty pool. No good can come of it. Got better things to do.
@richard p, pride comes before a fall etc. I totally recognize that awalt even myself if I don’t watch it. He is and always was good looking but he was also super painfully shy and overly “nice guy” in college so my guess is he had little to none experience sexually prior to marriage. He’s not a “natural” alpha. Nor an Alpha. Maybe he coulda woulda shoulda been but he’s super blue pill programmed. Hopefully he will break that but if so as we all aknow, won’t be wo a crisis of the soul moment (or many.) the truth often sucks. That’s why denial is so much more appealing to most.
Also as he describes it, and knowing him and the other players (her parents, sibilings, and other families tied in back in the day Bc these same set were very involved in my own marrige and life back then) well, they said to him “you should marry her, she’s a nice gal” and he did b/c the said he should vs him wanting to. It sounds silly to me now but back then they had huge influence. Bigtime church goers. There every week. Despite that some of the most miserable and not nice people I ever met. An arranged marriage basically. I remember him coming to me and my ex at that time saying he didn’t love her or want to but he felt so pressured, I said then “don’t” but he was not strong enough then to say “time out, my life! Not your choices!”
RPG,
That is the prevailing wisdom and has been for ages. I have to wonder why more don’t follow it. From what you have said this time, I still don’t have any advice.
they said to him “you should marry her, she’s a nice gal” and he did b/c the said he should vs him wanting to
That’s what Mike’s family said to him (about his ex).
There are some key “moments of truth” that can change the course of one’s life, that’s one of them. Sad about the vasectomy and never having kids decision, but probably best in the case of this relationship. Still, you never know what the future might bring. We always said (in our youth) that Mike would get snipped, but changed our mind for that reason. I might die tomorrow and suppose he gets remarried to someone who wants kids.
So family pressured him into marring someone he did not want to. That is sad.
Sometimes it seems that certain people just want a relationship to happen. And will encourage a guy to pursue any woman that does not have huge red flags. Maybe it is only the really religious people that do this or maybe there is another feature of life that cases them to act this way.
I can tell you it happens a lot. When I was single my mother and younger sister were constantly trying to encourage me to pursue this girl or that girl. I got a lot of “you should ask ____ out”. “How did dancing with ______ go?” “you did something with so and so, are you going to see her again?”
They would even dig for it. Like if I would mention a girls name, it would be like “so tell me about ___.” Then my sister-in-law got involved and they started setting me up on dates. Followed by the questions of “how did it go?”, “what do you think about her?”, “when are you going to take her out again?”
What seemed to befuddle them was when the response would be; “it went fine.” “No, I will not ask her out again”, or “I’m not interested”. Then there was the whole rigameroo of trying to explain why in 10 words or less.
I did not agree with my dad on much of anything when I was young, but at least he understood this one topic.
He only asked about girls once. He simple asked if I had met any cute girls. I said “yes, plenty of them”. He then asked, if there was any of them I was interested in pursuing. I replied that doing so was a waste of my time. That was the end of it. The only other time he ever mentioned it was in passing he told my mom and sister, that “He could find someone if he wanted too”.
One of the issues that the man RPG is talking about, is that he allowed himself to get into a relationship he did not want and then he let others decide the outcome of that relationship for him. When he was young he did not take ownership of his own life, it seems like he still does not want to. Hopefully the counselor or someone will help him do it.
I should also add, that when I finally decided on a girl that I was going to spend some of my time on, my family had nothing to do with it. Although they met her shortly after and have always had positive things to say about my choice.
@gofigure said” When he was young he did not take ownership of his own life,
That is generally the problem for folks whose desire is for a life that is not entirely clear to them. If you don’t know what you want, what is there to take ownership of? If you have a suspicion of what you want, but know that that life would be rejected by everyone who has ever loved you growing up, you may resist taking charge of that life in order to keep the relationships with the folks who love you. Making the choice to keep those who love you happy makes for a very troubled and difficult life.
I started out thinking this way, let Bloom persuade me otherwise, and am now back to thinking this: it sounds like he is struggling with the issue of whether he is gay. A rip-snorting sexual affair with Bloom (who sounds like she is capable of rip-snorting) would be “proof” for him that he is not gay. But Bloom let him know she is not available for rip-snorting with him – and so I’m guessing he is off to find someone else. All in an effort, I’m speculating, to keep himself from having to come face to face with admitting to himself who and what he is actually attracted to.
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My dad and Carl met when they were both young men, newly married. Both were quite musical (he,guitar; dad, piano and pipe organ) and became fast friends for life. Their oldest daugter became friends with my older sister, son 1 a year or so older than I, son2, a year younger than I, and daughter 2, the youngest, who I only saw as a small child. Son1 played a mean trombone and was a big burly guy on the football team. Loved all things sports. Son 2 was timid and shy and introverted and not burly and played a mean piano. Even as a young kid I knew what gay was, and figured that son 2 would be gay if his friends and family would accept him as such. He married a go-getter of a woman who created quite a life of singing professionally and writting music, etc. for herself. She left him after a time. Again I speculate, because of his nature maybe – too shy and retiring (and gay?) for who she grew into being. He has only recently remarried a woman with a very unfortunate face. And I have recently discovered that daughter 2 (his younger sister) is gay and has been living in the lifestyle for all of her adult life. I lost track of all of them long ago, even as my parents stayed in all of their lives (I was on the east coast, etc.). I recently felt the urge to establish contact with son 2, who I found on Facebook just after last Christmas. His older brother (son 2, the burly guy) had just had a leg amputated below the knee – I think compliations from diabetes. In the process of seeing the doctors for that, they discovered he had throat cancer in an advanced stage. Gave him a couple of weeks to a year to live. So – when I re-established contact with son 2 at the first of this year, this is what he had to talk about. He said he wouldn’t know what to do without his big brother. Son 2 (big brother) died last night. (I have fond memories of both of them from childhood, but have not known either in adulthood.) It will be interesting to see what form my conversations with son 1 take going forward.
Taking charge of ones life is not so straightforward for everybody. I’m pretty sure that those with the right personality (or right dose of hormones?) can do it. Those without the right personality (or wrong dose of hormones?) seem to struggle with being able to do that.
“Here’s the handbook for how you should live your life. Same set of instructions for everybody.” Yeah. Good luck with that.
Grrr. Referred to son 1 as son 2 a couple of times. The burly guy who died last night is son 1. Son 2 remains.
RPG,
It just occurred to me that most of the men hitting on you are already in relationships. What kind of a world are we living in where this is acceptable? It is just as ugly as all the women monkey branching.
This isn’t hard to figure out.
For the most part, people in committed relationships cheat because their partner/spouse isn’t meeting a major need in the relationship. Usually, that need has not been met for a very long time (several years), has been a big problem that they both know about, and efforts to correct it have not worked.
Usually, efforts at correction have failed because the person who’s failing to meet the other’s needs doesn’t care enough to make the changes necessary to correct it.
Sometimes, corrective efforts fail because they both aren’t getting all the way down to the heart of the problem, and they aren’t getting there because they don’t understand what the problem actually is. And almost all the time, the problem is her lack of sexual attraction to him.
The more I look at this, the more I am absolutely convinced that the number one problem in relationships is that she just isn’t all that into the guy she was able to get long term. The reason why it’s a huge problem now is because we as a society have fully enabled women to exit those relationships with cash and prizes. Before? She had to stay. Now? She doesn’t have to, and in fact is encouraged and incentivized to leave.
Those men who can cheat, do so because their wives are deadbedrooming them. Their wives refuse them sex.
Most men don’t cheat because they can’t. They’re not sexually attractive enough to cheat. Hell, they can’t even get their own wives to sleep with them. How the hell are they going to attract someone else?
Women have affairs for two reasons: (1) their husbands are completely emotionally closed off; or, increasingly, (2) their husbands are deadbedrooming them.
There are a limited number of men who cheat because they can – because they’re attractive enough to cheat, have the resources and savvy to avoid getting caught, and do it for variety and fun.
There are some women who cheat because they’re high T sportfuckers who get off on “prowling”. They cheat for the same reasons attractive men cheat: Because they can, and for variety and fun.
Most men would cheat if they could. If they thought they could do it and get away with it; they’d cheat.
Most women: right man, right time, right circumstances, low risk of detection = very high cheating risk.
Most men don’t cheat because they can’t.
Most women don’t cheat because all four of those factors must converge for her to cheat; and they rarely if ever do. Even if they do, most women decide the risks outweigh the benefits.
Bloom – i sent you an email.
@ Richard p could be. No rip snorting w me for him. Flattered. Nothing personal. But sorry that’s a NO.
Fuzzie it is a much too complicated world for sure. I just try to stay out of the fray and save me and mine. My girls watch me closely. They need a good role model!
@ Deti could very well be I am only getting one side of the story. Supposedly she is very sure he’s her one. But who knows. It’s true he likely doesn’t even know himself. Seems the bpd Facebook pal is back, this should be interesting. I of course advised total radio silence. I also doubt that will be how that goes. Hope he made that counseling appt, he’s going to need it. Maybe I should send him a Terrance Pop video! Lol.
RPG,
I am going to take that deflection as confirmation that most of the men approaching you are in relationships. Yes, you are setting a good example for your daughters. Still, single men with good intentions should not have to compete with men who are looking for something less. I am a little sick of it. Need some bicarbonate of soda. Burp!
Ame thanks for the heads up I looked but didn’t find it. Hang tight I will look in spam etc.
Oh I see Fuzzie I would say it’s more often single. Sometimes in a relationship but more often not. This guy’s behavior is different, have not seen this before. Who knows, I hope he figures it out. Maybe I should send him Terrance Pop but then again he’s not only blue pill but also very left leaning so it may be waaaaay too much. Think Terrence Pop is halarious even though I suppose “I should disapprove.” Lol.
Hi Ame sure enough, found it in spam! Thanks for the info I will pass it along!
you’re welcome 🙂
just sent you 2 more.
one more email with 2 links.
RPG,
For an introduction, Terrence Popp is a too hard core. What may be better is Karen Straughan’s old stuff. That is how I came to the Red Pill.
Do you have a link Fuzzie?
RPG,
Here you go! Her old stuff is under “Popular Uploads”. and it is worth seeing again for me.
https://www.youtube.com/user/girlwriteswhat
Good one Fuzzie, but notice that SSM, Anne of Queens, and Judgybitch have had their blogs destroyed by feminists in the last couple of years. It is relatively easy to attack males that resist feminism, females are largely immune, so they are seemingly specially attacked usually through their children.
b g,
While feminists did go after SSM, what sank her were women, one in particular, who were philosophical allies. The final straw was her being doxxed by Matt Forney on information provided by Will S. of Patriactionary.
As for Judgybitch, all we have is her final post to go on.
Would you give me the story on Anne of Queens because this is all news to me?
RichardP; Sad to hear about your childhood friend passing away.
Deti; I agree with most of what you say, but it seems a little over simplified. Regarding, one spouse not having there needs met. From what I have seen this is caused by people not really taking the time to know their spouse. The best phrase I have ever heard to solve this goes like: “you should be a student of your spouse”. Study them, ponder them and figure out what they need/want.
Regarding the woman not really being into her man. I would suggest that this happens to all women over the course of a relationship. A good question for a blog like this, that is directed at women, would be to discuss, why is that attraction lost and how to over come it.
Most men don’t cheat because they can’t. I see this idea thrown around a lot and I don’t believe it for a second. Lots of people want to believe that getting a woman into bed is hard/ does not happen much. This is BS. The real problem is men can not get the woman they want into their bed. Just like women can’t get the man they want to commit to them.
I will use myself as an example of how easy it would be for any man to cheat. I am shorter than average, about 60 lbs overweight, bad hairline, do not have the resources to attract women, I am beta/ nice-guy as they come. So according to this idea that most men can not get women to sleep with them, there is no way I could do it. The truth is; I could have an 18-21 yr old (20+ yrs younger than I) girl riding me without much effort. In fact I could probably get one to two new girls to do it each month. I am fairly confident I could get several of the lesbians to try an interesting group sex experience. One caveat to this; I am around college women which does make a difference.
Fuzzie
Anne ran a blog called Return of Queens about five years ago. There were several female and at least one male writers. It was rather right wing and aimed at returning to traditional family values. Somebody complained to Anne’s boss, that’s all I know.
It is relatively easy to attack males that resist feminism, females are largely immune, so they are seemingly specially attacked usually through their children.
I don’t think women are immune at all. As you mention, children can be attacked. Also their spouses can be attacked. That’s why I try to stay anonymous and am occasionally ambiguous and/or coy in my responses (less so lately).
MMSL (Married men sex life…think that’s the right title) is an example. If memory serves, he was fired from his job (or heavily encouraged to quit). His wife also lost hers. Think they’re both healthcare providers.
Hi Liz
What I was getting at what the accusations could be levelled at a male vs a female. Feminists, like most angry females, tend to go straight for the gonads ;-D
Definitely true, bg!
(I think MMSL was able to make more as a counselor, as his website turned a profit. Which gave him a little more freedom than the average person…before his health issue made him give up the site…it’s a hard business I’m sure, having to rely on the website exclusively for one’s livelihood tends to compromise things)
Funny as fuck!!
Knew Charlie and Gladys (not their names) married a decade from 29 onwards.
Both good solid 6s. Not fat, not stupid, not lazy but no “oh my god Yeaaaaaas!”
In the old days would been good ok marriage forever.
By chance no kids.
Charlie told me for last few years of it she slowly dried it up until the last year was nada. He started tracking. “Horse…she gets to 52 weekly nos and Im done.”
“Your generous, me…dozen…tops”.
Told Mrs, she tried to tell Gladys. Hell even I tried to tell Gladys.
” Is he bad? Unemotional? Cheap? Kinky? Why?”
Gladys “No he’s a good guy, attentive even…just I don’t feel I don’t know..WOW.”
“Well…be careful, good attentive guys are rare…”
And……Beuller? Anyone??
Yup. She hits 52nd no in a row.
By that point he doesn’t care, he is just following thru…hoping but resigned.
So he just goes, gets his go bag long packed, the letter he wrote long ago explaining, his emergency funds long set aside…..Says “Bye…” And walks out.
3 minutes from No to Bye.
She is vapour locked. Mostly at the calmness. Phones Mrs in a panic.
Charlie is reasonable, its amicable, he just wants to get on with it.
Gladys has a job, the small alimony. Sells the house, gets a small apartment.
Four years later. They are both now 43+. I still see Charlie. He is content bachelor. No women. Rare bar lay once a quarter to drain the balls. Never have a gf ever again.
Gladys is in the kitchen talking to Mrs.
“God I neeeeeeeeeed to have sex. Good sex, bad sex, hell a overly friendly hug.”
Me being an asshole “but WOW sex right? Not a boring guy”
“Oh no. Good, bad, short, bald. Just someone to WANT me. No one has wanted me…”
(I am going to hell) “since Charlie?”
Yes…Aaaaaaand the tears flow.
(I am taking the Express elevator down) “So you need plain, wednesday night sex from a boring guy like Charlie?”
“Well he was attentive, he knew what I liked….he LIKED me.”
(Ding…basement floor…everyone out…mind the hot coals)
“Too bad you threw the last guy who will ever like you away.”
Exit stage left.
Mrs and I agreed. I can be really mean at times. But we also agreed I wasn’t wrong.
P.s. Lucifer offered me an apprenticeship if I tell Charlie about it
Nope….
Even I am not THAT evil.
Horseman, I have no idea why that little story was so enjoyable, but it was!
Let Charlie be, he sounds contented with his life now without a dry wife
“Horseman, I have no idea why that little story was so enjoyable, but it was!
Larry, I’m going to have to call you a liar, liar pants on fire (are you Italian by any chance?). I believe you know exactly why that story was so enjoyable. 😆
Liz,
Sooooooo busted! LOL!
Eye tal onion? Nope. Land o’ the bagpipes and claymores is the story I was entertained with when I was a wee lad
I’d say Charlie’s ex got precisely what she wanted, in spades. What is it said? Be careful what you wish for…
b g,
Thanks for the info. I think I may have read a few posts there, but never followed.
As for Charlie and Gladys, white post menopausal women are getting a reputation for being crazy, as in delusional. It’s not too hard to connect the dots on this one.
Gladys, you really screwed the pooch on this one.
This is straight disinformation, a hit job on both the notion of a red pill reality as well as the (caricatured and demeaned) guy. But I’m glad it makes Bloom feel good about herself.
This guy doesn’t even know how to make the right moves on women, affair or otherwise. You don’t just ask/hint about sending a naked photo. That wreaks of no game. That is a massive turn off to women in my experience.
Good for you though, for getting him on the right path.
@Fuzzie
“The final straw was her being doxxed by Matt Forney on information provided by Will S. of Patriactionary.”
Wake up. SSM was largely instrumental in doxing herself. She made it no secret that she blogged with he real first name. She also made no secret of her profession and the city and state she lived. All someone had to do was plug in those 3 very public pieces of information on google and a last name and other personal details came up. The lesson learned here is if you want to be anon you have to go all out anon.
David,
I think the point is that she was stabbed in the the back by her philosophical allies.
Ok Bv, why don’t you explain it… why do you think people have affairs?
While it is off topic, it is a pretty clear indication that feminism dominates left wing politics to the point where they feel they can dictate what people eat.
We have come full circle from the time when it was said, “A chicken in every pot and a car in every garage.” Oddly, it was the maligned Herbert Hoover who said that.
David
The question is not how a man doxed a woman, the question is what kind of man would expose a woman and her children to risk?
b g,
That got to the heart of it.
Larry: I’ve heard it’s best not to run with bagpipes.
You could put an aye out or worse yet, get kilt
At a non-family reunion many years ago …
Her: “I only married him because I couldn’t get you.”
Me: “While that’s perhaps a comforting thought, I’m not agreeing to let you use my dick to end your flawed marriage.”
Because it’s really about getting some sort of leverage going that lets that person end the marriage through the pretence of it being no fault of his or her own.
Compare and contrast:
Him: “Why do you want a divorce?”
Her, version 1: “You’re a horribly boring person and I made a life mistake!”
Her, version 2: “Because Post Alley Crackpot filled me up with his construction-grade Caulk Product and I liked it!”
Obviously version 2 cuts all of that awkward personal bullshit out straightaway. 🙂
Larry: I’ve heard it’s best not to run with bagpipes.
You could put an aye out or worse yet, get kilt
As an eternally conflicted clansman (Duncan on one side, MacDonald on the other) all I can say is
Och Aye, tis a lass wi sass gets a paddle on the ….. Arse.
LOL! (
“Och Aye, tis a lass wi sass gets a paddle on the ….. Arse.
tis true, tis true.
Now having a bit of debate with the Mrs. about if/when/where on vacation for this year. As always, she will put out suggestions, I’ll decide the if/when/where. She has yet to be disappointed with any of our vacations that we took. Well, maybe one…a few years ago Phoenix, AZ was a total wipe out, we got sick as dogs from eating some crappy tacos I think.
redpillgirlnotes
And I also am not so naive that I think I could not be tempted. So that’s why I pray for resistance to temptation. I do know it would not lead to good things, so that also keeps me on the straight and narrow. Even if nobody ever knew I would know and God would know. And yes one can ask forgiveness but I try not to push my luck with the Big Guy! Lol. I follow his rules because they protect me not because they restrict me. Adultery is on the top 10 for a reason. I just go w that!
wisdom. truth.
when we believe we are above it all, we become vulnerable to failure. maintenance takes work. and maintaining one’s boundaries to remain faithful is maintenance-work.
awesome, Bloom 🙂
Och Aye, tis a lass wi sass gets a paddle on the ….. Arse.
Well, per anonymity my cover has obviously been blown.
You know WAY too much about me. 😆
Larry, when are you going on vacation? Spring? Summer? how long do you have and do you want to see stuff or do stuff? For example, Washington DC is a cool place to see stuff, Sanibel Island a nice place but there’s not so much to see.
honestly I can’t imagine anywhere is better than Colorado in summer!
Liz, WASHINGTON DC? Oh hell no, I did’t piss anybody that badly off to have to go to there.
Thinking of early summer for a month to maybe five weeks to Moscow. I want a week to visit friends in Bucharest too. Wife is not thrilled with that though, still negotiating
As to cheating, it did seem as if men who are already in relationships would have an advantage in the sexual marketplace because of preselection. That is a powerful advantage.
I think that Liz wants to visit all the aviation exhibits at the Smithsonian.
In the 30 and up professional category 44 women, 6 men.
In the 50 and up 9 men and one man
Ahahhahahahahahahahahaahaha
“As the event neared she cut the price to half price for men after consulting with some of the female ticket holders”.
Remember ladies night in bars?
Remember ” buy me a drink”?
Remember go out for dinner?
Remember….as in past tense!!
https://www.theguardian.pe.ca/news/regional/speed-dating-event-in-membertou-cancelled-due-to-lack-of-men-283597/
P.s. this is not a small town. Cape Breton is a city of 100,000
Horseman,
I’d link a video of a donkey braying, but that would be a little much. I am laughing. They brought it all on themselves. Another thing to remember is all those times at nightclubs where there were seven to eleven men for every women.
The point is, this is coming into the consciousness of the mainstream.
Horseman – good for you for telling Gladys the truth; someone needed to.
I was in a mood
i might get ‘in a mood’ sometimes, perhaps, kinda, yeah 😉 🙂
To all the lurkers out there
Replicant Fish lays it out calmly, articulately and without shaming.
He lays out the case for going your own way.
This is what you must counter if you ever want commitment.
Do you have an answer?
P.s. Bloom…possible piece here on what RF says.
P.s. its unusually brilliant because he does not use the usual “its too risky” line.
He doesn’t rag on relationships at all. He actually doesnt mention relationships at all.
He simply points out the positives of focusing on life outside relationships.
“Always remember and never forget, the world is yours. Have …a nice day.”
How do you argue with that tagline?
If you read that speed dating article.
Not one single woman signed up for the 18-30 year old event. Wonder why?
Because under 30 sluts be slutting….duh.
No, it is because their dance cards are full. Roosh noticed this, saying that women are acting like “their pipeline is full” while men in that demographic are floundering. This should be more evidence that “The Wall” is a very real.
I am a few steps removed from the wedding biz but do see it closely enough to see this: almost every couple getting married are high school sweethearts. They may have waited and gotten education etc. but they did not “play the field.” It makes me think of tgis generation there will be those who did the above and those who never marry. Once jaded, the chasm may just be too deep for any others to cross. Be selective and then select, ladies.
There is a lot to be said for high school sweethearts. For women, it keeps their partner count down. For men, it keeps their heart from being stepped on. As for marriage, the last number that I heard was from 2014 and it had been in a slow decline from 1960, down from seventy percent of adults to fifty percent of adults.
High school sweethearts don’t seem to be a thing anymore.
Kind of an interesting study in social conditioning.
When I was in high school it was kind of expected you’d have a serious/semi-serious beau. Or you were a really late bloomer.
Our oldest is in college, and broke up with his first real girlfriend (well, she broke up with him) over Christmas break. He started seeing another and they just broke up too, after only about a month (friend zoned, they were good friends first and it was too weird for her).
Horsman,
It was a rhetorical question. But it is good to see people point out the the answer.
Your answer does not reflect well on you.
This is interesting: they were good friends first and it was to weird for her. It was the same way for my wife.
My wife really ended up embarrassing herself when she had to do the pursing after saying she was out.