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Hello again! Its been awhile. Lots and nothing much has happened in the past few months. Still watching the world and looking at things from a red pill perspective, as always.
I have an update on my college friend. Somewhat of a red pill awakening.
As I said back in a previous post, he was in a bad situation, and struggling. To say he was blue pill was putting it mildly. He was the draft horse described in many a manosphere post.
After we had a few red pill conversations and I sent him some of the links many of you kindly shared, I didn’t hear much from him for awhile.
Then one day he reached out, saying he was the frog in the pot of water and the water was just too hot.
He had said once before, after we chatted about not much of anything, that he decided to put the gun away. It was only then that I realized his telling me he felt suicide was the only way out were not exaggerated. He’d literally been sitting there with his gun in the dark. Thank God he reached out, and I happened to be awake. I told him I hoped he’d always put it down and reach out.
Something about his tone this day too was very alarming. It was like he was trying to explain it was all too much, and that he coukdnt take anymore, and he was saying goodbye. Then…nothing.
I panicked, thinking the worst.
I immediately asked my guy what to do? Wait and see or call 911? I didn’t even remember where my froend lived exactly, having only been to his house once back in college. Luckily my guy’s mad research skills soon had the address.
Still no reply from my friend. So I called 911.
The operator took down the info but I was not sure how urgent they took the call. They’d have someone call, she said.
I was supposed to open my biz in less than 15 minutes, but my gut would not be quiet. I am not sure why, but I called my ex.
“I’ll meet you there,” he said without a moment’s hesitation. Even all those years later he knew exactly where the house was.
He got there before me and knocked but no answer. Finally a woman peeked her head out and quickly shut the door again.
Just after he updated me, the officer called. He was naturally skeptical and I was more than a little glad that he wasn’t going to just take some random gal’s word for it. But after I told him of the situation, and the gun thing before, and said I was on my way there, he said they would go check and to please not approach but let them handle it.
I was beyond relieved to see my friend standing in his driveway talking to two police officers when I arrived, instead of an ambulance.
As I sat waiting, I hoped and prayed I had not overreacted and just ruined his life.
Apparently he agreed to leave with the officers, and as he walked down the driveway he spotted me. I hopped out of the car and he came rushing over to hug me.
I said I was sorry if I caused any trouble and please don’t be mad at me, but I wanted to be sure he was OK. He said he wasn’t mad and thought I did the right thing.
Then he turned around and saw my ex, who had arrived on his Harley. I think he was even happier to see him than me and he rushed to hug him, too. He told us both he wanted to go with the officers, and my ex said he thought that was a good idea and he’d be in touch.
After they pulled away my ex asked me to join him for a bite to eat and talk. I caught him up to speed on what I knew so far, and he agreed better for our friend to divorce than kill himself.
“Divorce sucks but it isn’t the end of the world,” he said. (Surreal!)
He kept his word and followed up, agreeing with me our friend needed men to help him, not a woman, and that I had done as much as I could.
The next weekend they both showed up in their leathers on Harleys. Looking like a happy and motley crew.
Our friend has gotten help for his depression and is on an experimental but new treatment protocol that seems to be working. He’s also seeing a therapist who he said he likes very much. And is hanging out with my ex.
About two weeks ago he texted me out of the blue, “I’m getting a divorce.” He finally told her he couldn’t do it anymore. Done.
As I have always said here, if people can avoid divorce and make their marriage work, I believe they should. But sometimes, they shouldn’t. I think he’s wise to take a break and focus on finding himself. Who knows, maybe in time they will work it out.
I heard from him again yesterday and he was happy to share all he’s been doing. He sounded hopeful. It’s not perfect but it’s a lot better. And he’s not thinking of hurting himself anymore as an answer.
Anyway to be continued, but so far so good!
Its a red pill world folks, and we’ve got to look out for each other.
What do you think? Please share in the comments!
I was going to joke about Katy Perry being engaged but I wanted to mention that this guy needed “the break” from what was happening. But I want to warn that guy that he needs to be mindful that he doesnt make the same mistake twice. (Needs to read Glover’s No More Mr Nice Guy, etc for reference).
indeed freematpodcast, hes so vulnerableat the moment I worry abput that too. I will pass on the advice!
“But I want to warn that guy that he needs to be mindful that he doesnt make the same mistake twice. (Needs to read Glover’s No More Mr Nice Guy, etc for reference).”
This is so true 😦 ! If they pick bad the first time, they’ll likely pick bad a second. We’ve seen two couples recently going through divorce, and then the men (husband’s friends) go on to pick equally bad women.
I don’t get it! If they’re, “free,” why on earth would they pick almost the same kind of woman with the same kind of flaws?
Pretty strange a woman (his wife?) “peeked her head out and quickly shut the door again”
Well…good job, Bloom. Hope everything works out for him.
Yes, it was his wife. Not sure of she was oblivous or didnt care or what.
I asked him the other day what made him end ot.
He said he invited her to go out to beeakfast at a French Bakery so they could do something together and she refused.
Must have been that snap moment guys speak of — he replied, “I want a divorce.”
He said it wasnt the no, it was the years of no. The constant no.
A good thing for women to be mindful of — as she found it cant be all abput “happy wife, happy life.”
Guys have heopes, dreams, wants, feelings, etc. too!
I hope he finds himself and then never loses himself again.
Ton would say get on that bikd and bang 15 babes as fast as possible! (or was that 20?or 25? lol, I forget the reckmmenxed number except it was many, lots, enough to get over the pedastal thing. Agreed but w protection would be my advice!!! And if ges blue pill, not sure he would not get mired in the thicket wo Ton or a guy similar prodding him on.)
RPG,
I don’t think calling the police was a good idea. They have a habit of escalating things beyond reason. In short, they could have killed him. He was lucky.
@fuzzie I completely get what you are saying. I honestly didnt know what to do. I am glad it did not turn out that way. I guess I have a noave worldview in many ways. When the police officer warned me not to apprpach, it had never occured to me my friend could be dangerous to me, but when someone is desperate and has a gun, you just never know. They face that potentially every day. I guess I still think the police and the military are “the good guys.” And I hope I never experience otherwise. The officer I talked to, he had true compassion, and when he saw my friend hug me and our exchange, I think he saw I wasn’t some dingbat trying to ruin a guys life. And he was just a very confused guy who needed help, not a danger. But they have seen it all I am sure, and he was just not wanting to be responding to a murder suicide. And I am glad the officer was trying to protect us all, including himself, from harm. After all I do have kids to raise etc. But i do see what you are saying too, and had things gone down differently I would have felt awful. What would you have done in my shoes?
I also did not want to cause him trouble as far as having being suicidal on his health record etc. But again, if I had done nothing he probably would be dead instead of getting help and feeling hope that maybe ending his own life was not the only way out? Maybe there was another option – saving himself? I hope my actions only help and dont harm him. Or anyone. Always.
RPG,
I probably would have gone over there and talked to him. If I did not know where he lived, I would have contacted someone who does, as you did. Male suicide is different. It’s not all wrapped up in emotions. It’s about losing control of practical matters and dealing with disappointment in yourself.
When you brought up Ton, I did fly off the handle. Seeking advice from a sociopath about interpersonal relations is a terrible idea.
I figured that was what triggered you bear.
Fuzzie, I was just asked to work at a marriage training convention by a sweet police wife who runs a very popular ministry (to police wives). I usually never go to marriage conventions because they honestly annoy the heck out of me, as they usually only focus on the male side and make awful husband jokes etc, but I knew she wasn’t like that so I agreed to work for her at it. It’s really hard to say no to things like that (even though it’s supposed to be volunteer) because her husband is higher up, works at my husband’s sub, and they know us. Lol it’s like if they ask, you kind of need to. My husband was asked to do unpaid security for them, too. So he was patrolling the outside.
But it was actually pretty good! The advice was mostly to the wives on being uber respectful and making sure you’re doing ***everything possible*** to help your officer with handling the massive stress that comes with the job. I think, from all the couples we know, most don’t have a spouse whose actually properly supporting them. So the stress of the job (which they went over, just insane what it does to them on an emotional and physiological level) is compounded with extra stress at home. We know several couples who I don’t even understand how the man is able to function, let alone do what police work requires of him daily.
I think, for the officers who do go bad, maybe they already have a personality disorder an should have been screened out. But another theory could be the stress and not being able to handle it properly overtime.
Officer suicides and divorces have gone up dramatically since Ferguson, and I don’t think that’s a coincidence. Policing has gotten to be a different animal that is was even 15 years ago, and on top of those problems, they are lowering the standards to get in, just to get more bodies out there. So we’re having lower quality men, trying to deal with daily huge amounts of stress… not a good combination.
wow. Bloom … what a stressful experience. SO grateful he’s alive and okay.
i imagine that seeing you and your ex there … your willingness to stop your lives just for him, was powerful … and your ex following through and keeping up with him, doing stuff with him – not just a random text or something benign – is powerful. and good meds.
women who do things like that are poison.
Stephanie,
I should have known that my comment would get your attention. It’s not just Ferguson, although there were more warrants out than people who lived in the town. It’s all over and it’s because they are attracting the wrong personality type. It’s even going bad in England, which has a far different tradition than here.
It runs seven minutes and this guy is incredibly direct and eloquent. I think your husband should see it. The parallels between his observations of the UK and here are haunting.
Stephanie said “I don’t get it! If they’re, “free,” why on earth would they pick almost the same kind of woman with the same kind of flaws?”
I have seen this happen, more than once. There’s a lot of talk about how women are supposed to love “bad boys”, maybe men (some men anyway) love “bad girls”?? // “bad” meaning not necessarily some super-slut with a “number” of 30, but someone who’s just impossible to be around for any length of time?
Some guys have even gone back to the same girl they had bad problems with before…I think I mentioned here before, I was ditched by a man I lived with and expected to marry, he went back to the girl he’d been with before me who treated him very badly (and is doing it again from what I hear)
I don’t get it either, What is the appeal? But it definitely happens and is not rare.
“Bang 15 babes as fast as possible” But bang them nicely (or maybe I should’t say “nice” given the other post) bang them HONORABLY, don’t lead them to think it’s going to be something long-term when it’s not.
The video was interesting, Fuzzie, but claiming that their academy doesn’t conduct any psychological exam sounds false. Perhaps it could be true, but it doesn’t make any sense – think of the lawsuits that could happen as a result of them failing to do something so basic.
Every American law enforcement department, large and small, that I know of, does have to legally conduct a psychological exam before hiring. I’d be very surprised if his claim in the video is true.
Promoting people who have correct opinions is feasible, though. We only see that in VERY high up positions, and it creates a big divide between the officers and their (much higher) superiors.
97% of our force voted they had, “No Confidence,” in our chief… which is just insane when you think about how out of touch he would have to be to piss off that many men.
Like his opinion on the recruitment of certain minority groups. We’re lucky we don’t have that here (yet).
The military does, though.
We’re just so different from the UK, Fuzzie… the way they allowed the Rotherham Muslim rape gangs (who are not only doing that in just Rotherham, but all over places in the UK, France, Italy, and Spain).
I could see American police going in the same direction if we had someone like Hilary, which was what we feared the most about her potential election back in 2016. This is like watching what we could have in a few years time, if we just elect the wrong person.
I mean there’s just so much wrong with European police forces. They have no guns, that’s a huge deal, Fuzzie. I’ve read firsthand accounts of how terrified they are to go into Muslim-run neighborhoods, commonly referred to as, “No-Go Zones.”
I’ve read LOTS of accounts of the regular citizen people in Europe (especially Germany) having a very hard time to get the police to arrest any Muslim perpetrator, because once they enter their neighborhood, they’re technically in a different, “country.” The neighbors come out and surround and mob the police who dare enter. Remember, most of them have no weapons, but the Muslims do. There have been multiple accounts of this. I’ve read several pieces written by irate officers having to quit early due to these massive problems that virtually no one addresses.
In my opinion, most of the officers over there are victims of the political leaders who have stripped them of their guns and weapons, and allowed such massive immigration and places to exist like the No-Go Zones.
And I’ve read that when they do perform their job, arrest a Muslim, the judge often lets them go. The corruption goes up much higher in my opinion than simply the police force.
They aren’t as bad as Mexican police (insert any Latin American “police” force) yet, who regularly steal money from people on simple traffic stops, or can throw you in jail for any period of time, for simply arguing with them or looking at them sideways.
What we’ve taught our oldest is that when you have a corrupt government, the police and military are like the arms of that government stretching out and doing the will of that government. If there’s corruption higher up, at the brain of the body, it will eventually find ways to legally get the arms and legs to do it’s bidding. I agree with his points in the video that state that, but at the same time, I can see where it’d suck to be an officer, too.
Sorry to write so much! Done!
Stephanie,
After seeing this, I have to wonder why it all hasn’t blown up yet.
Nothing is going to happen to the policeman who killed the fire chief’s daughter. Had a citizen done this, it would be twenty five to life under second degree murder, maybe more since this is near Dallas.
In the entire history of the Post Office, not one dog has been shot. Police kill ten thousand a year and one thousand unarmed people a year in the US.
It is going to blow up and it is going to be bad.
The BBC picked up the above story, so there is some hope for justice since it has gone mainstream and worldwide.
He’s only showing a very small part of the video. It looks much larger than what he’s making it out to be. I don’t know, Fuzzie, I don’t believe police should just get mauled by dogs all the time. Why wasn’t it on a leash? There are leash laws for a reason. If your dog attacks people, you have to be responsible for them to defend themselves against being bitten or mauled. To me, she was at fault for not obeying leash laws and allowing it to attack him. Very plain and simple.
My husband’s been bitten on the leg and it was a nasty, bloody wound. It happened so fast, and it was when he was just hired, and it was just a small dog so I guess it wasn’t as threatening. I’m sure the owner is much happier my husband was wounded, they really don’t care if their dog attacks, they only care if the officer defends himself.
Ok… so I searched for the real, full story, sounds like she’s some kind of drug addict and he was called to do a welfare check on her since she was passed out like a druggie in the alley. Honestly, he had NO IDEA it was even her dog, then it attacks him, to me his actions make sense. He’s very new, also, only a month on his own and fresh out of the academy.
What usually happens in these cases though is that the media portrays it like that man, and people publicize the officer’s address and people start harassing and attacking their family because he gets labeled a, “dog killer.” That’s happened many many times, we know a couple who had to stay in another city for awhile for their own safety. All because some idiot doesn’t have their dog under control and allows it to attack police.
From the news:
“Emergency responders and the officer, 25 — he’d completed his training and was released from supervised patrol on July 1 — were responding to a welfare check in Arlington, where Margarita Brooks was reportedly passed out in a grassy area around 5:20 p.m”
I sound like I hate dogs! It’s not that I’m not sad he shot it (and her!!! His shot should have been better, but they are *soooo* fast). I just know when dogs attack, it all happens so fast, faster than you can see and process in your brain how to respond, because of their reflexes being so much better than ours. And that dog looked bigger than what he’s portraying it to be… certainly wasn’t a yorkie.
Just looking online on what experts say about how to respond to a dog attack, the first thing they say is to train your dog not to do it, or have them on a leash. It’s like basic 101 dog ownership in my opinion. Not rocket science!
And don’t worry Fuzzie, my husband likes dogs. He’s rescued a pit bill that someone called complaining about, and he had it with him in his patrol car.
BUT it was NICE lol. It didn’t attack him, so there’s that.
Stephanie,
How is it that dogs who get shot don’t seem to be a problem for ordinary people? It’s my guess that a lot of these incidents are occurring in people’s fenced back yards.
I have to wonder how this works with laws against trespassing? I understand that Texas is as harsh as Montana on trespassers. I wanted to link a video of the California DMV sending three CHPs to a customer’s home and he found them in his back yard after they had passed through a closed gate, but Youtube is acting up. I’m sure a complaint wouldn’t get very far. After seeing that, I lost a lot of respect for the California Highway Patrol.
@ fuzzie what should the officers do instead? Put yourself in their shoes. Its not like the post office where they can toss it over the fence and hope for the best. The police are entering yards on pursuit, should they just let criminals go? Or potential criminals I should say. If i call the police bc my kids and i were in danger, i would hope they would do whatever needed to get to us, including shooting my own dogs. Not that I want that but I am trying to make a point… the post office and police are wildly different jobs. See what I am trying to say?
A good friend of mine was a fire arms dealer legally. When criminals broke into his house to break into his gun safe they shot all his dogs. But of course that was never in the newspaper. He’s never owned dogs since and he gave up his license as well.
Let’s say they passed a law that police officers could never shoot dogs in the line of duty. What do you think every criminal on earth would do? Get a huge pack of dogs.
I’m not saying it’s good the world works this way but let’s not be naïveif there weren’t bad guys we wouldn’t need police (or military.) Not that I’m saying some police aren’t bad guys I agree there are some that are but I would say just like men who get vilified 98% are probably good guys and 2% are giving everybody a bad name
and fuzzy please no I’m not trying to argue with you I’m just trying to show you a different point of view
RPG,
Did you see the video? The policeman shot three times without aiming. The first grazed the dog and one of the other two hit her in the chest. She can’t even be seen on screen. This is clearly a wrongful death. What is debatable is the depth of negligence. As I said before, a citizen would get twenty five to life for murder in the second degree. Why should a cop get a pass?
After the shootout at the OK Corral, Wyatt, Morgan, and Virgil Earp, along with Doc Holliday stood trial for murder. They were acquitted. Then, the Clanton gang murdered Morgan. Knowing the sheriff sided with the Clantons, Wyatt went on a rampage. I have to wonder if present day law enforcement has any idea what they are bringing down on their heads?
Finally, I think Stephanie is falling for “DARVO” tactics that municipalities resort to when employees get caught making a mess. DARVO stands for Deny, Accuse, and Reverse Victim Order. If you look it up, it’s a tactic that is ascribed to sex offenders when caught. It’s telling that government has to resort to that to minimize liability. Wrongful death alone should run in seven figures. Enhance that with punitive damages and it may bankrupt a city.
We live in America. I don’t want to see it turn into a police state but it looks as if we are headed there. Given how things are now, police are under no legal restraint. A San Francisco attorney told how difficult it is to get a bad cop fired. He had to be caught committing murder a second time.
RPG,
Here is another one. Fortunately, no one gets killed and no shots are fired, but the blue privilege is dialed up to eleven. The grey SUV is the unmarked Michigan State Police vehicle and the red car is piloted by a civilian. The grey SUV runs a stop sign while the red car has no stop sign. They arrest the kid in the red car.
I just had a happy thought. Insurance companies are not going to like this.
Fuzzie, I agree with you that nobody should be above the law, including the law. I did not watch the video, I dont think it woukd be wise at the moment.
Be careful about taking isolated but tragic incidents and applying it like this is a blanket policy and that all police are like that. Thats all I am saying.
RPG,
You can watch both videos. There is no gore in the first but it has a lot of detail that is incidental. The second is a car crash.
These are not isolated incidents. Now that cameras are everywhere, we’re finding out how common they are. What gets to me is that the liars are attempting to deny the obvious when it’s recorded and they know it.
Stephanie,
You’re husband has to get out of Tombstone. Wyatt Earp went to Virginia City and ran a casino. His brother, Virgil, ran one close by. My point is he needs to get out before the hammer comes down. I don’t know how much more the public can stand of this and we are just starting August.
Well I for one am grateful that people like Stephanie’s husband are willing to put their backsides on the line. Because when I’m in trouble I can’t call the crips, bloods, or MS13 for help.
Liz,
It is interesting that you would compare police to gangs. As for help, when seconds count, they are minutes away.
Lawsuits have become a real problem for smaller communities. While they could obtain insurance, the premiums are unaffordable.
https://www.theepochtimes.com/some-american-towns-are-doing-away-with-their-police-departments_1280474.html
I saw an update on the Michigan State Patrol car crash. They are going through the kid’s black box to find out his speed. I have to wonder what kind of credibility the Michigan State Patrol is going to have in court after trying to weasel out of this? The video plainly shows them ignoring the stop sign.
As for that poor woman in Arlington Texas, she is beyond all this. It only serves to remind the rest of us coming in contact with police is twenty times more dangerous than anyone else.
Hospitals are replete with medical errors, and doctors and nurses fail all of the time.
If it weren’t for patient privacy, we’d be treated to all sorts of videos of medical screw ups in real time. But, alas, we’re left only with the stories and lawsuits.
Guess that means no one should ever go to a doctor.
They’re 5000 times more likely to kill you than anyone else (often the last person anyone sees is their doctor! How much more proof do you need!?!)
Let’s not push for better standards….
Clearly all doctors should become casino owners and gamblers instead.
We’d all be in a much better place.
Forgot to add:
I don’t usually call a doctor, but when I do I’m glad they’re available.
Because I can’t call the crips, bloods, MS-13, or a mortician for medical help.
Liz,
It wasn’t until WWII that your chances of survival improved by seeing a doctor. As for the other gangs you have mentioned, they are not supported by tax dollars and taxpayers don’t have to pay their judgements. One more thought, doctors aren’t likely to shoot you or your dog. They don’t try escalate every encounter to justifiable homicide.
A great deal of our tax burden is sunk into the cost of all sorts of predatory violence and the secondary impact of that violence, Fuzzy.
How often do you interact with cops, and how often has your dog been shot?
I have a long history of poor interactions with medical personnel and staff.
So I became trained to work in a lab at the hospital, also did phlebotomy, and then went to nursing school. That information is beneficial and helps protect me.
Better to be proactive than just point at the problem and view videos that can be taken out of context. Of course, didn’t go to well for George Zimmerman, who undertook responsibility for his neighborhood and the public ruined his life when he discharged his weapon in self defense. Which is the situation a LEO might find himself in at any time.
Liz,
Garbagemen have more dangerous jobs. The job they do is essential. They are not asking for favor. If cops wanted to make their job safer, all they would have to is wear their seat belts and not drive like maniacs. The above video is a case in point. What government can continue to allow this foolishness?
Twenty one million dollar lawsuit???
Then, there are the city’s costs in defending the lawsuit.
For those who think that wealth, status, or race make you immune from police going crazy.
There is a follow up,
https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/sdut-chula-vista-police-department-lawsuit-settlement-2014jan03-story.html
According to the article, the policeman was named in two other lawsuits. He continues to work for Chula Vista PD.
If you didn’t read the article, I’ll share this one snippet. “Weeks after the incident, Harris was diagnosed with depression and severe post-traumatic stress disorder because of the incident, according to the lawsuit. He was later deployed to Afghanistan.” So, according to the Navy, deployment in Afghanistan is less stress inducing than being posted stateside? Well, it is outside Ofc. Krafft’s jurisdiction.
I worked at a hospital that was sued due to a surgeon’s negligence. The hospital had just received 50 million from the federal government to expand to take over healthcare for the military base nearby. They lost all that money in the lawsuit, and the hospital had to declare bankruptcy.
So that doctor cost the government 50 million. And last I heard, he was still practicing medicine in another state.
No doubt, there are bad cops, and probably even bad departments…but we have considerable review and accountability processes in the form of review boards and courts.
What scares me more is *prosecutors*…there is very little control on prosecutorial discretion.
Liz,
There is a difference. I doubt that doctors operate with malice.
David Foster,
Forget about accountability. Prosecutors worry me too. Florida started allowing people to come into court with cameras. Getting the judges to comply with the law is another matter.
Well, Fuzzie, I don’t know the motivations of all doctors…nor do you.
I suspect you are correct about the majority. I also suspect the majority of police officers don’t operate with malice either. Physicians have a higher level of training, and they can be a bit more selective about the process because fewer surgeries are needed than cops to police the streets. All people….doctors, nurses, cops, are human with human failings.
I’m not sure of your point. Even in the cities you’ve mentioned who can no longer fund their police department, the Sheriff department took over. Is it your position that sheriffs are superior to police? Or do you not believe in law enforcement at all?
Liz,
The model is broken. Rather than serve the public, they have chosen to serve themselves as a self perpetuating institution. Where there is a conflict between the needs of the public and the institution, the institution wins. This is not going to end well.
A lot of modern policing involves pulling a motorist over for something small and unverifiable and escalating that into a felony. It is in 1930s parlance, a “racket”. This has to stop, but it is expanding to all socio-economic levels. Any one of us could be a victim tomorrow.
There is more. As citizens, we are subject to the Rule of Law. Police have nothing but contempt for it and less regard for the Constitution. If you have any doubts, look at how they choose to park. That is not a small clue.
You’ve said all this before. What I’m curious about is if you think there should be no law enforcement at all. Because that’s the basic thrust of your argument.
What we need is law enforcement worthy of trust. At present, we can only trust them to do wrong. When we can see them parking in between the lines and driving at the speed limit, we’ll be a long way to getting there.
What we need is law enforcement worthy of trust.
If that’s the case (and I would agree), you should be grateful when trustworthy officers are out there. But that’s not the case you’ve been making….you just told Stephanie her husband needs to leave and buy a casino.
Liz,
The hammer is coming down and it won’t miss the innocent. That is why Stephanie’s husband should get out.
There is more and it is like pouring salt on an open wound. They’re arrogant.
Not only should they read 38.02, they should read the pertinent statutes that deal with witness intimidation. What can they be thinking?
@ fuzzie, is this something going on in your area? Where I live the local sherrif waves and knows me by name. He often sits near my place bc its central to his beat and I find comfort in all that. But I dont live in a city or high crime area so ifyou do I get it may be altogether different. Are there bad cops? Absolutely. Are mist bad? I would say not but again it could be regional.
RPG,
I have been watching a lot of Youtube. It’s everywhere. Here we are in the middle of August. If it is going to come to a head, it will be now.
I have been watching a lot of Youtube. It’s everywhere.
I’ll take that as a no to Bloom’s question.
Watching youtube tells us nothing.
It is selective (see Covington Catholic school video). Furthermore, there are about a million police officers. Numbers that large, someone is probably going to be doing something wrong, sometime.
That’s exactly how propaganda works. The USSR propaganda teams used to go to US cities and take pictures of people living in boxes. They’d take that “evidence” that capitalism sucked back to the public. Sure, they’d never seen it themselves…but hey! Obviously people are living in boxes “everywhere” in the US.
You should watch something better, Fuzzie.
I remember the one video you showed of the “disabled veteran” who was a complete fraud. All he had to do was act like a human being and the poor minimum wage earning Walmart checkout girl wouldn’t have had to call the police in the first place. I was at the store a month ago and they asked for my son’s ID. I didn’t scream and threaten the checkout girl.
Liz,
As soon as I learned I was wrong about Muskogee, I posted. Better people more closely involved were taken in too. Still, the police had no excuse to pile on him six to one. As for checking ID, he was buying champagne for Valentine’s Day. I don’t think that he was going to give any to children. The clerk was unreasonable.
There is one Youtuber that does ask police regularly, “Have you ever arrested a bad cop?” None have answered in the affirmative.
So that you are aware, foreign governments have posted travel advisories about American police. Canada was first. News in Canada doesn’t get more mainstream than this.
I think that a lot of the warnings are about Civil Asset Forfeiture. Don’t let me get started on that.
If it matters, the most outrageous reports come from mainstream news.
If women think that the police will step up and white knight for them, in place of all the men they aren’t marrying, the reality is going to be much different. I think Sandra Bland would tell you so if she could speak today. She was very much an arrogant feminist.
A peace offering? Liz makes a new friend.
Liz makes a new friend.
Aw, cute!
Goldens are great dogs. 🙂
Liz,
More. I don’t know whether to be embarrassed or laugh.
Brave cats.